Hi Anthony, Thanks for the tip! I got csound5 to build in NetBSD and it does exactly what I want (sustain AND release looping, versus sustain-only). I had a few problems with csound5. The NetBSD 3.0 pthread library is more strict than Linux and Windows. For some reason csound dies when using realtime output with portaudio 19. GDB 5.3 in the NetBSD 3.0 base system doesn't work well with threads, but it seemed to die in csound5 and not portaudio. I kept a log at http://terrorpin.net/~ben/docs/alt/music/csound/work/csound-problem.txt Now I'll start playing with soundfonts in csound5 and see whether my problems there have also disappeared. A next step would be for me to port portmidi to NetBSD so I could use csound5 with my MIDI keyboard. Thanks again, Ben