AFAICS Python would also support well a functional styleof programming (although this appears to me to be moreof a state of mind, so the language might not matter so much ;)Victor----- Original Message -----From: Mark Van Peteghem <Mark.Van.Peteghem@telenet.be>Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:05 amSubject: [Csnd] Re: Haskell for computer musicTo: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk> Intrigued by that discussion about Haskell, I read quite a bit > about it, > and it looks like a very nice language. But I obeyed a rule in > IT that > says that when you can choose from a number of tools, you > shouldn't only > consider the features of the tools, but also which tool you (or > your > team) knows best. Learning a new tool may be interesting, but is > also > time consuming, especially if it is a very different way of > doing > things, like Haskell is.> > For CSound I'm just fine with Python, I don't see what Haskell > could > offer that makes things so much better that I can justify > spending a lot > of time on it. Actually I know C++ much better, but you can > store Python > code in a Blue project, a big plus, so I use Python.> > Mark> > Michael P Mossey wrote:> > A couple months ago, I queried the list about what languages > they find > > most useful for computer music. I was disenchanted with > Python, and > > thinking of switching to Lisp or Haskell.> >> > I started a study of Haskell two months ago. Oh my goodness! > As a > > functional language, it is vastly different than the > imperative > > languages most programmers are used to. Its fundamental > concepts are > > difficult to understand. Programs in Haskell are often very > short, and > > to the beginner's eye cryptic as all hell. It's not easy to > grasp WHY > > a Haskell program does what it is supposed to do.> >> > Learning Haskell, you get a good exposure to the mathematical > > literature that forms the basis of functional programming. > VERY > > different experience than learning Python or Java.> >> > However, the good news is that all this stuff is supposed to > be > > intuitive and fit together neatly, once you learn it. We tend > to > > forget how much experience went into learning imperative > programming, > > and don't realize how much of that learning has to be > replicated in > > undertaking functional programming.> >> > I've made some progress. Maybe the biggest progress is that I > don't > > tremble in fear when I see statements like "Applicative > functors are > > also pointed when defined on a monoid."> >> > But, I'm beginning to wonder if there is really a practical > payoff for > > what I want to do. I would be interested in hearing from the > member(s) > > on this list who use Haskell.> > > > Send bugs reports to this list.> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body > "unsubscribe csound"Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music,National University of Ireland, Maynooth