I attended the Workshop in Algorithmic Composition in 2005, where David Cope is one of the teachers and organizers. It was all in all a very useful course, and some well spent 10 days. Cope did explain some things about EMMY (his software) during the course, revealing that it is all basically Markov based. I do not recall that he went into details about the analysis part (i.e. the pattern matching), but I recall that he expling about how the database was made, and that he did a lot of hand editing on the database to optimize the output (the music made by the software). I do not think his software is available online in a complete form, but you might get snippets of code here and there (not sure). To get more insight on this, (and other algorithmic composition issues) I would higly recommend attending the summer course. I think they are still admitting students for this year's course. Search for WACM, Cope, UC Santa Cruz and I think you'll find it easily. best Oeyvind 2008/1/7, Tim Mortimer : > > Thank you both very much gentlemen. > > Yes i'm not sure i'd be interested in using anything "out the box" anyway at > this stage - esp. if it wasn't hackable. (although if the Holy Grail did > exist, I would no doubt be interested.... That's my Parseval "slogan" after > all - "The Holy Grail of Sequencing" - catchy huh! ; ) > > But i would be interested in reading anything that explains some techniques > for identifying "patterns" in larger "datasets". > > If similar motifs & developmental strategies recur from piece to piece i > guess that constitutes a "style". Style could be more concerned with surface > veneer & production values though these days.... Putting PVOC sounds & > drones in every piece could also be constituted as a "style"... My > terminology tends to be fairly ad-hoc however. (but i did Architecture for 2 > years, so I recall enough all this to at least realise i probably have no > idea what i'm talking about when it comes to PM.) > > In essence I am considering algorithmically identifying patterns, with the > intention of "hand crafting" variations. Reduction to the "atomic" level > (with reference to your Paper Michael G) is a useful approach therefore it > seems not only computationally but compositionally. So any style under > potentially broader analysis would be my own. (assuming i have any - 95% of > the music i have written to date are 4 minute pop songs - hoping that > Parseval will help me try & organise something a bit larger, & to make them > instrumental...I'm over lyrics - especially writing them) > > Rest assured David - I'm always very happy when you butt in. It looks as if > we can start feeling less guilty about our blather in general. > > & thank you again Michael. I always appreciate any time you have to offer > some guidance & insight. Lest we forget that this list & the internet are my > sole sources of information here. (tear down the JSTOR firewall i say! ; ) > ......) > > > > David Worrall wrote: > > > > Just Google book his name and you can read a few previews. > > (Excuse me for butting in) > > > > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Python---Help%21-Creating-a-nestable-%22Pattern%22-class-tp14564226p14656413.html > Sent from the Csound - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > Send bugs reports to this list. > To unsubscribe, send email sympa@lists.bath.ac.uk with body "unsubscribe csound" >