The IDLE issue might be related to python apps/scripts with a GUI.
Sorry not to be more specific, I can't seem to recall where I got the info from.
I've only run my apps from the terminal ever since I read this, an I
recall that a lot of weird problems did disappear when *not* running
in IDLE. This was some two years ago, and it might have changed since
then.

best
Oeyvind

2007/11/9, Michael Gogins <gogins@pipeline.com>:
> That's funny, I run Csound in Idle a lot and it works.
>
> The main problem is that if I kill a Csound process before it completes, often there is a zombie that I have to kill from the operating system. I would like to have a solution to this because Idle has a Python debugger that can useful for complex scripts.
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> I do not get strange error messages. What kind? I assume you are talking about Windows?...
>
> Regards,
> Mike
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Nov 9, 2007 4:14 PM
> >To: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk
> >Subject: [Csnd] Re: Re: Re: csnd tutorials/helpfiles
> >
> >I think one should not run any halfway complex stuff in IDLE.
> >I do not remember the exact reason why, neither the exact
> >implications, but it has to with IDLE itself being written in Python.
> >This means we get one Python app running on top of another and it does
> >sometimes lead to unexpected results and strange error messages.
> >Repeat, do not run stuff in IDLE.
> >
> >best
> >Oeyvind
> >
> >
> >2007/11/9, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>:
> >> The code is correct. The -1 answer means that
> >> probably the CSD was not found or that other
> >> problem happened during the compilation.
> >>
> >> -1 actually means an error. Also in OSX maybe
> >> the csound messages have been printed to the
> >> console (see it in utilities), not the terminal.
> >>
> >> (On Windows, if I run it from Idle, I also do
> >> not get any Csound messages)
> >>
> >> Victor
> >> >
> >> > Hi David -
> >> >
> >> > I find it very useful. But your example "Playing an
> >> > existing csd   file" doesn't work on my system (MacPython
> >> > 2.3, Csound PPC 5.07). No   error messages, but it returns
> >> > -1:
> >> >
> >> >  >>> import csnd
> >> >  >>> cs = csnd.Csound()
> >> >  >>> fname =
> >> > "/Users/jh/Documents/Csound/PythonInCsound/pythontest.csd"
> >> >  >>> cs.Perform(fname)
> >> > -1
> >> >
> >> > When I first run main.py from Oeyvinds
> >> > PartikkelCloudDesigner (it   stops at a certain point, but
> >> > after loading all the csnd stuff), it's   ok (returns 0)
> >> > and "test.aif" is written in the directory of the
> >> > PartikkelCloudDesigner. So maybe there has to be one or
> >> > more other   tasks before cs.Perform(fname)?
> >> >
> >> > Best -
> >> >
> >> >     joachim
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Am 09.11.2007 um 13:33 schrieb David Worrall:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi All,
> >> > > I've been finding my way around the python wrappers for
> >> > > csnd. In my   search I've come across quite a few people
> >> > > who have found the   process just too hard. So, bearing
> >> > > in mind thathis process is   likely to attract new users
> >> > > ,  I thought it would be good to begin   to put a
> >> > graduated introduction together. >
> >> > > I've just scratched out a temporary beginning, for the
> >> > > moment at   http://www.avatar.com.au/sonify/csnd/
> >> > >
> >> > > A couple of things suggest themselves.
> >> > >
> >> > > Reference material
> >> > > -------------------------
> >> > > Apart from some simple examples, it would  be good to
> >> > > merge the   output from help(csnd) with the info in the
> >> > > header files,   particularly csound.h
> >> > > Has anyone written such a script? It wouldn't be too
> >> > > hard a hack   and then each version or compile options
> >> > > change, a reference could   be computed by the user
> >> > particular to their own system. >
> >> > > Examples
> >> > > --------------
> >> > > From what I can see, the only example from the examples
> >> > > directory   in the sources that runs on the default OSX
> >> > > .dmg install of v5.7   without being modified is
> >> > > Victor's vu.py (It relies on TclSTk being   installed.)
> >> > > tFair enough - It is a "way in" I could put up a hacked
> >> >  down version (no graphics), just to illustrate the use of
> >> > >   CsoundPerformanceThread and SetChannel and proceed
> >> > that way ... >
> >> > > I'm not sure if  people would find these type of things
> >> > > useful.   Perhaps you have other ideas. Feedback?
> >> > >
> >> > > ciao,
> >> > >
> >> > > David
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > _________________________________________________
> >> > > experimental polymedia:    www.avatar.com.au
> >> > > Sonic Communications Research Group,
> >> > > University of Canberra:
> >> > creative.canberra.edu.au/scrg/ >
> >> > >
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