Hi, Following the FoF discussion, I wanted to clarify my understanding of instrument duration and release under MIDI, so I made this test file: -m0 -d -L stdin -odac sr = 48000 ksmps = 48 0dbfs = 1.0 nchnls = 2 instr 1 prints "instr start\n" itim times midinoteonkey, p4, p5 ; dummy to activate MIDI kadsr madsr 0.1, 0.2, 1.0, 0.5 krel release if krel > 0 then ktim times printf "release at %f\n", krel, ktim - itim printks "ramp %f at %f\n", 0.1, kadsr, ktim - itim endif endin The idea was to show me the time course of the extended release time (with the half-second adsr). When I run it (under Csound 6.12 or 6.13) I actually get this: instr start release at 0.519000 ramp 1.000000 at 0.519000 ramp 0.998000 at 0.520000 ramp 0.996000 at 0.521000 ramp 0.994000 at 0.522000 ramp 0.992000 at 0.523000 ramp 0.990000 at 0.524000 ramp 0.836000 at 0.601000 ramp 0.636000 at 0.701000 ramp 0.436000 at 0.801000 ramp 0.236000 at 0.901000 ramp 0.036000 at 1.001000 instr start release at 1.046000 ramp 1.000000 at 1.046000 ramp 0.998000 at 1.047000 ramp 0.996000 at 1.048000 ramp 0.994000 at 1.049000 ramp 0.992000 at 1.050000 ramp 0.990000 at 1.051000 ramp 0.988000 at 1.052000 ramp 0.986000 at 1.053000 ramp 0.984000 at 1.054000 ramp 0.982000 at 1.055000 ramp 0.980000 at 1.056000 ramp 0.890000 at 1.101000 ramp 0.690000 at 1.201000 ramp 0.490000 at 1.301000 ramp 0.290000 at 1.401000 ramp 0.090000 at 1.501000 with some unexpected initial printouts -- at 1 per k-cycle -- before it prints the expected release ramp every 1/10 sec. (If I change ksmps, the number of lines changes appropriately.) I went back to Csound 5, and there I just see the expected printouts for the release phase only. I guess this is a bug? -- Pete -- Csound mailing list Csound@listserv.heanet.ie https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CSOUND Send bugs reports to https://github.com/csound/csound/issues Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here