Re: [Cs-dev] Csounds.com links to SourceForge missing?

Date	2005-02-22 21:11
From	"Art Hunkins"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csounds.com links to SourceForge missing?
	Hi, Rick and David A., One more suggestion for csounds.com: As a bonafide senior citizen now for several years, I use VGA resolution (I like to read the print!). Please do test how things work at VGA. As is, the top-of-screen popup windows at VGA resolution, often head up and off the top of the browser window (and are inaccessible). This does not happen at 800x600 res. Frankly, many websites are designed at higher resolutions, and they really look poor at VGA. A bit of attention at VGA res is mightily appreciated by many of us. Thanks much. Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Boulanger" To: Cc: "John D. Ramsdell" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Csounds.com links to SourceForge missing? > John, > > Thanks for the feedback, models and suggestions. > > I am working with a new webmaster - David Akbari and he has been doing a ton > of work behind the scenes. And, we are still in the process of > re-organizing everything. We meet on Tuesdays for several hours. > > I have outlined for him last week some of these very issues that you mention > here. And we will meet later this week to discuss some of the others that > you mention here. > > Not to make excuses, but in addition to being a fantastic Csounder, and an > incredibly hard worker (he was just honored by the Music Tecnnology Faculty > by receiving the Max Mathews Award!), David is also a student and taking a > full course load at Berklee including some seriously demanding classes with > me in DSP and Max/MSP. And so... He is balancing his time between work on > the site and work for his classes. > > We are trying to make the site as intuitive as possible and simple to > navigate. Hopefully over the next month or so we will get there. > > Keep us posted on anything else you think we should consider and please do > keep checking in. > > -Dr. B. > > > Thanks on 2/22/05 12:13 AM, John D. Ramsdell at ramsdell@mitre.org wrote: > > > Dr. B, > > > > I took a look at http://www.csounds.com, and was bothered by what was > > missing. I found no links to the GBS distribution of Csound, no > > pointers to its source distribution or to binary distributions for its > > various supported platforms. Even more distressing is I found no > > links to the Csound project's summary page on SourceForge! This link > > should not be kept secret. > > > > Perhaps the missing links exist, but I couldn't find them. I found > > the organization of the site bewildering. It wasn't clear to me where > > a distribution that delivered both sources and binaries fits. > > > > The site http://www.lua.org is one I consider easy to navigate. Its > > start up page mostly consists of a small menu with standard categories > > for a site about software: about, news, download, documentation, > > community, and a site map. > > > > Most people know that beginners should follow the about link, and > > those seeking software should follow the download link. Once the > > download link has been used, the documentation link is often a > > visitor's next step. The rest is clutter to most visitors. Careful > > thought about site use cases will lead to a streamlined design. > > > > One last suggestion: lose the JavaScript. Simpler is better. It's > > another feature of http://www.lua.org. > > > > John > > > > "Dr. Richard Boulanger" writes: > > > >> John, > >> > >> Thanks so much for this detailed description of your work on the Csound GBS. > >> I am very grateful for your efforts. And I do (now especially) more fully > >> appreciate the importance of your efforts. > >> > >> I will make sure that some, if not all of this info gets into the new Csound > >> FAQ/FrontPage at cSounds.com and thank you for taking the time to be so > >> clear. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > _______________________________________________________________________ > + Dr. Richard Boulanger, Professor > + Music Synthesis Department, Berklee College of Music > + 1140 Boylston Street - Boston, MA 02215-3693 > + Office Phone: (617) 747-2485 Office Fax: (617) 747-2564 > + eMail: rboulanger@csounds.com or rboulanger@berklee.edu > + WebPage: http://csounds.com/boulanger/ > ________________________________________________________________________ > + Almost Everything Csound @ http://csounds.com/ > + The Csound Catalog with Audio @ http://csounds.com/catalog/ > + The Csound Book @ http://csounds.com/book/ > + The Csound Magazine @ http://csounds.com/ezine/ > + CsoundForums @ http://csounds.com/phpBB2/ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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Date	2005-02-22 21:28
From	"Richard Boulanger"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csounds.com links to SourceForge missing?
	Art, Thanks for the suggestion. We'll deal with that issue too - for sure. Thanks for the reminder. Rick on 2/22/05 4:11 PM, Art Hunkins at abhunkin@uncg.edu wrote: > Hi, Rick and David A., > > One more suggestion for csounds.com: > > As a bonafide senior citizen now for several years, I use VGA resolution (I > like to read the print!). Please do test how things work at VGA. As is, the > top-of-screen popup windows at VGA resolution, often head up and off the top > of the browser window (and are inaccessible). This does not happen at > 800x600 res. > > Frankly, many websites are designed at higher resolutions, and they really > look poor at VGA. A bit of attention at VGA res is mightily appreciated by > many of us. Thanks much. > > Art Hunkins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Boulanger" > To: > Cc: "John D. Ramsdell" > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Csounds.com links to SourceForge missing? > > >> John, >> >> Thanks for the feedback, models and suggestions. >> >> I am working with a new webmaster - David Akbari and he has been doing a > ton >> of work behind the scenes. And, we are still in the process of >> re-organizing everything. We meet on Tuesdays for several hours. >> >> I have outlined for him last week some of these very issues that you > mention >> here. And we will meet later this week to discuss some of the others that >> you mention here. >> >> Not to make excuses, but in addition to being a fantastic Csounder, and an >> incredibly hard worker (he was just honored by the Music Tecnnology > Faculty >> by receiving the Max Mathews Award!), David is also a student and taking a >> full course load at Berklee including some seriously demanding classes > with >> me in DSP and Max/MSP. And so... He is balancing his time between work on >> the site and work for his classes. >> >> We are trying to make the site as intuitive as possible and simple to >> navigate. Hopefully over the next month or so we will get there. >> >> Keep us posted on anything else you think we should consider and please do >> keep checking in. >> >> -Dr. B. >> >> >> Thanks on 2/22/05 12:13 AM, John D. Ramsdell at ramsdell@mitre.org wrote: >> >>> Dr. B, >>> >>> I took a look at http://www.csounds.com, and was bothered by what was >>> missing. I found no links to the GBS distribution of Csound, no >>> pointers to its source distribution or to binary distributions for its >>> various supported platforms. Even more distressing is I found no >>> links to the Csound project's summary page on SourceForge! This link >>> should not be kept secret. >>> >>> Perhaps the missing links exist, but I couldn't find them. I found >>> the organization of the site bewildering. It wasn't clear to me where >>> a distribution that delivered both sources and binaries fits. >>> >>> The site http://www.lua.org is one I consider easy to navigate. Its >>> start up page mostly consists of a small menu with standard categories >>> for a site about software: about, news, download, documentation, >>> community, and a site map. >>> >>> Most people know that beginners should follow the about link, and >>> those seeking software should follow the download link. Once the >>> download link has been used, the documentation link is often a >>> visitor's next step. The rest is clutter to most visitors. Careful >>> thought about site use cases will lead to a streamlined design. >>> >>> One last suggestion: lose the JavaScript. Simpler is better. It's >>> another feature of http://www.lua.org. >>> >>> John >>> >>> "Dr. Richard Boulanger" writes: >>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Thanks so much for this detailed description of your work on the Csound > GBS. >>>> I am very grateful for your efforts. And I do (now especially) more > fully >>>> appreciate the importance of your efforts. >>>> >>>> I will make sure that some, if not all of this info gets into the new > Csound >>>> FAQ/FrontPage at cSounds.com and thank you for taking the time to be so >>>> clear. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >>> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >>> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> + Dr. Richard Boulanger, Professor >> + Music Synthesis Department, Berklee College of Music >> + 1140 Boylston Street - Boston, MA 02215-3693 >> + Office Phone: (617) 747-2485 Office Fax: (617) 747-2564 >> + eMail: rboulanger@csounds.com or rboulanger@berklee.edu >> + WebPage: http://csounds.com/boulanger/ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> + Almost Everything Csound @ http://csounds.com/ >> + The Csound Catalog with Audio @ http://csounds.com/catalog/ >> + The Csound Book @ http://csounds.com/book/ >> + The Csound Magazine @ http://csounds.com/ezine/ >> + CsoundForums @ http://csounds.com/phpBB2/ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel _______________________________________________________________________ + Dr. Richard Boulanger, Professor + Music Synthesis Department, Berklee College of Music + 1140 Boylston Street - Boston, MA 02215-3693 + Office Phone: (617) 747-2485 Office Fax: (617) 747-2564 + eMail: rboulanger@csounds.com or rboulanger@berklee.edu + WebPage: http://csounds.com/boulanger/ ________________________________________________________________________ + Almost Everything Csound @ http://csounds.com/ + The Csound Catalog with Audio @ http://csounds.com/catalog/ + The Csound Book @ http://csounds.com/book/ + The Csound Magazine @ http://csounds.com/ezine/ + CsoundForums @ http://csounds.com/phpBB2/ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. 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