Do you think that the new Google 7 inch pad would run Csound for Android?

Do you think that the pad would support a C++ compiler?

Regards,
Mike

-- 
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://www.michael-gogins.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
_______________________________________________
Csound-devel mailing list
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Hi Michael,

It should run Csound for Android without any problems, assuming
Jellybean (Android 4.1) is going to be fully backwards compatible for
native code. Hard to know exactly until someone runs it, but my guess
is that it will, and if not, we would move forward to fix that.

As for C++ compiler, I have no experience with them on Android, but
saw this thread on XDA:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780210

I didn't see anything that was embeddable within an application
though, and I don't know if there is any way to call a binary besides
JNI calls. My guess here is that it's a slim chance.

steven

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> Do you think that the new Google 7 inch pad would run Csound for Android?
>
> Do you think that the pad would support a C++ compiler?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> --
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Live Security Virtual Conference
> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
_______________________________________________
Csound-devel mailing list
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

I see, all Android apps must run as Java programs, is that it? I
thought the NDK would permit development of loadable applications in
C++.

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> It should run Csound for Android without any problems, assuming
> Jellybean (Android 4.1) is going to be fully backwards compatible for
> native code. Hard to know exactly until someone runs it, but my guess
> is that it will, and if not, we would move forward to fix that.
>
> As for C++ compiler, I have no experience with them on Android, but
> saw this thread on XDA:
>
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780210
>
> I didn't see anything that was embeddable within an application
> though, and I don't know if there is any way to call a binary besides
> JNI calls. My guess here is that it's a slim chance.
>
> steven
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> Do you think that the new Google 7 inch pad would run Csound for Android?
>>
>> Do you think that the pad would support a C++ compiler?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> --
>> Michael Gogins
>> Irreducible Productions
>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Live Security Virtual Conference
> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel



-- 
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://www.michael-gogins.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
_______________________________________________
Csound-devel mailing list
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

I think Steven misunderstood your question. Yes, there is a gcc/g++ for linux ARM that comes with the developer tools (otherwise we would have no Csound for android). You can develop applications with C or C++, but they will have to have a layer in Java (which can be quite thin) to run as an android app. There is a terminal too, so cli programs can hypothetically be run (I have built the csound command but could not manage to set exec permissions for it).

Victor


On 28 Jun 2012, at 18:16, Michael Gogins wrote:

> I see, all Android apps must run as Java programs, is that it? I
> thought the NDK would permit development of loadable applications in
> C++.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> It should run Csound for Android without any problems, assuming
>> Jellybean (Android 4.1) is going to be fully backwards compatible for
>> native code. Hard to know exactly until someone runs it, but my guess
>> is that it will, and if not, we would move forward to fix that.
>> 
>> As for C++ compiler, I have no experience with them on Android, but
>> saw this thread on XDA:
>> 
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780210
>> 
>> I didn't see anything that was embeddable within an application
>> though, and I don't know if there is any way to call a binary besides
>> JNI calls. My guess here is that it's a slim chance.
>> 
>> steven
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>> Do you think that the new Google 7 inch pad would run Csound for Android?
>>> 
>>> Do you think that the pad would support a C++ compiler?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Michael Gogins
>>> Irreducible Productions
>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Live Security Virtual Conference
> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
_______________________________________________
Csound-devel mailing list
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Ah, I was looking at it from a Java perspective. Pure native
applications can be done with the NDK:

http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/NativeActivity.html

I just checked, and the Process class is supported, so at least from
Java you could run an executable:

http://developer.android.com/reference/java/lang/Process.html

However, I have no idea though about running applications via
commandline, and if you can package that and run it within your
application.


On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> I see, all Android apps must run as Java programs, is that it? I
> thought the NDK would permit development of loadable applications in
> C++.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> It should run Csound for Android without any problems, assuming
>> Jellybean (Android 4.1) is going to be fully backwards compatible for
>> native code. Hard to know exactly until someone runs it, but my guess
>> is that it will, and if not, we would move forward to fix that.
>>
>> As for C++ compiler, I have no experience with them on Android, but
>> saw this thread on XDA:
>>
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780210
>>
>> I didn't see anything that was embeddable within an application
>> though, and I don't know if there is any way to call a binary besides
>> JNI calls. My guess here is that it's a slim chance.
>>
>> steven
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>>> Do you think that the new Google 7 inch pad would run Csound for Android?
>>>
>>> Do you think that the pad would support a C++ compiler?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Gogins
>>> Irreducible Productions
>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com
>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://www.michael-gogins.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Live Security Virtual Conference
> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
_______________________________________________
Csound-devel mailing list
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

FYI, I just got my Nexus 7 yesterday, and it does indeed run the Csound
APK. I've had very little time to play with it yet, but I did a quick
run-through of the demos and they all seemed to work.

- Dave

On 6/28/2012 12:49 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
> Do you think that the new Google 7 inch pad would run Csound for Android?
>
> Do you think that the pad would support a C++ compiler?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
_______________________________________________
Csound-devel mailing list
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net