| The repository is not at Bath, it is at SourceForge. They have lots of room.
Regards,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger"
>Sent: Aug 24, 2007 9:43 AM
>To: Michael Gogins , Developer discussions
>Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Inaccuracies in cpspch and cpsoct
>
>If ever John can't keep the repository at bath, I will be happy to
>host ALL the older versions and code
>at cSounds.com
>
>-dB
>
>On Aug 23, 2007, at 11:58 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
>
>> This would be fine with me too.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Anthony Kozar
>>> Sent: Aug 23, 2007 11:43 PM
>>> To: Csound Developer list
>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Inaccuracies in cpspch and cpsoct
>>>
>>> This is all beginning to sound to me like more work, more
>>> complexity, and
>>> more confusion for a what amounts to a HYPOTHETICAL possibility
>>> that making
>>> cpsoct/pch more accurate will actual cause somebody's existing
>>> music to
>>> sound different.
>>>
>>> I know that I am the one who suggested the possibility, but we are
>>> talking
>>> about differences in pitch of about 0.14 cents. This difference is
>>> certainly not detectable in sequences of notes. It MAY cause small
>>> differences in beating and timbres when notes (especially with many
>>> overtones) are sounded together, but equal temperament already causes
>>> significant beats to occur in most chords and this small change is
>>> likely to
>>> go unnoticed too.
>>>
>>> The change is most likely to be noticeable only in combinations of
>>> long
>>> sustained tones where the old pitches just happened to create a
>>> more lively
>>> sound with stronger beats. (My example CSD exploited this
>>> possibility to
>>> show how much of a problem I think the lookup table is; it is a
>>> pretty
>>> unlikely scenario though ...)
>>>
>>> I believe the best solution is to make the pitch more accurate,
>>> and to
>>> provide no backwards "compatibility" kludges. I now believe that
>>> to provide
>>> such a mechanism complicates Csound unnecessarily and sets a bad
>>> precedent.
>>> Some of the other recent changes to Csound (the new random number
>>> generator
>>> or the filter changes) are MUCH more likely to produce noticeably
>>> different
>>> results (especially the RNG). We cannot provide alternate sets of
>>> opcodes,
>>> extra flags or orchestra syntax, etc. to turn these old versions
>>> off and on
>>> without greatly increasing the complexity and manageability of the
>>> entire
>>> system. Already, we have lots of users who have trouble getting the
>>> existing opcode libraries to work and many people cannot compile
>>> or install
>>> the system.
>>>
>>> The simplest solution for everyone is to keep the version of
>>> Csound that you
>>> use to create a piece if you are concerned about future changes.
>>> All recent
>>> versions of Csound will remain publicly available for a long time
>>> and John
>>> has kept archives going back a lot further at the Bath site.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Michael Gogins wrote on 8/23/07 4:15 PM:
>>>
>>>> I would just like us to give some thought as to which of these
>>>> alternatives
>>>>
>>>> -- replace opcode names
>>>>
>>>> -- use legacy opcode library
>>>>
>>>> -- replace up to date names with legacy names
>>>>
>>>> is actually LEAST LIKELY TO GET MESSED UP and EASIEST TO MAINTAIN
>>>> and EASIEST
>>>> TO USE.
>>>>
>>>> I think the last alternative is the least likely to get messed up
>>>> and the
>>>> easiest to maintain, but it is not quite the easiest to use.
>>>
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