The manual and all Csound Documentation has been cleared with the MIT  
Lawyers and is LGPL.

I arranged this personally in meetings with the MIT Lawyers and Barry  
Vercoe.

The original copyright message should have been removed.


Regarding the history of the manual - This version does NOT come  
entirely from Kevin Condor's efforts.

Here's my recollection::::  Please correct me....

Conder worked with the documentation that I provided and worked on  
for years (built from Barry's version with
serious html conversion/contribution from Jean Piché.)  After I made  
it into a Word document, by scanning, OCR, and then
correcting and standardizing every page - from a hard copy provided  
by Barry; Rasmus Ekman, John ffitch and I added a
ton...

We then handed off to David Boothe

David came on and did an incredible job in re-working, re-arranging,  
re-wording, standardizing, expanding, and remaking the document.

Then came Kevin... who worked with the Boothe document and whom no  
one else could work with....  He put his name on every page.

At my request, Kevin did work on examples for every opcode and added  
this feature - and these continue to be replaced and revised with  
new, clear, and more educationally inspired models and examples....

As I understand it, Micheal Gogins came on with some tutorials and  
installation instructions.

But the new and incredibly wonderful (and more information-filled)  
canonical manual has been in the wonderful hands of Andres Cabrera.

Andres has really turned the document into a significantly improved  
educational and reference document and has been making major  
corrections and additions.


With contributions from many many others (every opcode developer has  
provided wonderful manual pages and examples),
since before 1979, the Music11->Csound documentation torch has mainly  
been carried and passed through 5 generations from:

1. Vercoe

2. Boulanger
- ffitch
- ekman
- piché

3. Boothe

4. Conder

5. Cabrera
- lazzarini
- yi
- gogins


-dB

On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi Felipe,
>
> The manual is LGPL. The credits section refers mostly to the opcode
> itself, but possibly the manual page as well. I have been assuming
> that contributions for the manual have been made under the LGPL, would
> it be better to have explicit permission?
>
> It might be good to remove the copyright (for MIT) that appears on the
> initial page, since it refers to the original version, and not the
> current one.
>
> This makes me wonder, has the manual been cleared with MIT as well as
> the csound sources? Or does this manual come entirely from Kevin
> Conder's efforts and should not be (c) MIT at all?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Felipe Sateler  
>  wrote:
>> I'm currently packaging the csound manual now for debian. As part  
>> of the
>>  process, I need to check all copyright notices and licenses, but  
>> the manual
>>  is somewhat a mess in this respect: most files don't have any  
>> copyright
>>  assignment. There is the copyright notice that gets output in the  
>> manual
>>  itself, but I find it confusing: why aren't the people listed as  
>> authors at
>>  the front page named there? Are they the only contributors? Some  
>> pages have a
>>  Credits section. Maybe this could be interpreted as a copyright  
>> statement?
>>
>>  So... what I guess I'm asking for is a clarification of the  
>> copyright and
>>  licensing status of the manual.
>>
>>  --
>>  Felipe Sateler
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Sorry... I mean YES the manual and all document is GFDL.

-dB

On Apr 15, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:

> The manual and all Csound Documentation has been cleared with the MIT
> Lawyers and is LGPL.
>
> I arranged this personally in meetings with the MIT Lawyers and Barry
> Vercoe.
>
> The original copyright message should have been removed.
>
>
> Regarding the history of the manual - This version does NOT come
> entirely from Kevin Condor's efforts.
>
> Here's my recollection::::  Please correct me....
>
> Conder worked with the documentation that I provided and worked on
> for years (built from Barry's version with
> serious html conversion/contribution from Jean Piché.)  After I made
> it into a Word document, by scanning, OCR, and then
> correcting and standardizing every page - from a hard copy provided
> by Barry; Rasmus Ekman, John ffitch and I added a
> ton...
>
> We then handed off to David Boothe
>
> David came on and did an incredible job in re-working, re-arranging,
> re-wording, standardizing, expanding, and remaking the document.
>
> Then came Kevin... who worked with the Boothe document and whom no
> one else could work with....  He put his name on every page.
>
> At my request, Kevin did work on examples for every opcode and added
> this feature - and these continue to be replaced and revised with
> new, clear, and more educationally inspired models and examples....
>
> As I understand it, Micheal Gogins came on with some tutorials and
> installation instructions.
>
> But the new and incredibly wonderful (and more information-filled)
> canonical manual has been in the wonderful hands of Andres Cabrera.
>
> Andres has really turned the document into a significantly improved
> educational and reference document and has been making major
> corrections and additions.
>
>
> With contributions from many many others (every opcode developer has
> provided wonderful manual pages and examples),
> since before 1979, the Music11->Csound documentation torch has mainly
> been carried and passed through 5 generations from:
>
> 1. Vercoe
>
> 2. Boulanger
> - ffitch
> - ekman
> - piché
>
> 3. Boothe
>
> 4. Conder
>
> 5. Cabrera
> - lazzarini
> - yi
> - gogins
>
>
> -dB
>
> On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>
>> Hi Felipe,
>>
>> The manual is LGPL. The credits section refers mostly to the opcode
>> itself, but possibly the manual page as well. I have been assuming
>> that contributions for the manual have been made under the LGPL,  
>> would
>> it be better to have explicit permission?
>>
>> It might be good to remove the copyright (for MIT) that appears on  
>> the
>> initial page, since it refers to the original version, and not the
>> current one.
>>
>> This makes me wonder, has the manual been cleared with MIT as well as
>> the csound sources? Or does this manual come entirely from Kevin
>> Conder's efforts and should not be (c) MIT at all?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Felipe Sateler
>>  wrote:
>>> I'm currently packaging the csound manual now for debian. As part
>>> of the
>>>  process, I need to check all copyright notices and licenses, but
>>> the manual
>>>  is somewhat a mess in this respect: most files don't have any
>>> copyright
>>>  assignment. There is the copyright notice that gets output in the
>>> manual
>>>  itself, but I find it confusing: why aren't the people listed as
>>> authors at
>>>  the front page named there? Are they the only contributors? Some
>>> pages have a
>>>  Credits section. Maybe this could be interpreted as a copyright
>>> statement?
>>>
>>>  So... what I guess I'm asking for is a clarification of the
>>> copyright and
>>>  licensing status of the manual.
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  Felipe Sateler
>>>
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Thanks Steven for this additional info.
Those were my two years of personal chaos - and I remember immensely  
and with great gratitude
when you picked up the project and how you brought it to another level.

In the timeline of things - yours was a major contribution.  Andres  
and I were discussing this privately.

Sorry to have forgotten your major work on this document and resource.

-dB

On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Steven Yi wrote:

> Well, for history's sake, from Kevin's manual, I took over when he
> decided to stop.  I did the conversion from SGML and XML as well as
> worked out the tool chain for processing using xsltproc and fop,
> allowing us to maintain the then HTML and PDF targets, though adding
> A4 PDF and HTML single-page targets.  Also, from there I added the
> WinHelp version of the manual.  Afterwards, I maintained the manual
> for a year or two (don't remember), before Andres took over.
>
> I would say without Kevin's work we wouldn't have had a manual where
> we could easily collaboratively work on it.  That was part of it
> though, as without converting to XML and figuring out the tool chain,
> it would have been much more difficult to build the manual and hence
> make it harder to collaborate, as the SGML tool chain was not easy at
> all to get things working.
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>  wrote:
>> The manual and all Csound Documentation has been cleared with the MIT
>>  Lawyers and is LGPL.
>>
>>  I arranged this personally in meetings with the MIT Lawyers and  
>> Barry
>>  Vercoe.
>>
>>  The original copyright message should have been removed.
>>
>>
>>  Regarding the history of the manual - This version does NOT come
>>  entirely from Kevin Condor's efforts.
>>
>>  Here's my recollection::::  Please correct me....
>>
>>  Conder worked with the documentation that I provided and worked on
>>  for years (built from Barry's version with
>>  serious html conversion/contribution from Jean Piché.)  After I made
>>  it into a Word document, by scanning, OCR, and then
>>  correcting and standardizing every page - from a hard copy provided
>>  by Barry; Rasmus Ekman, John ffitch and I added a
>>  ton...
>>
>>  We then handed off to David Boothe
>>
>>  David came on and did an incredible job in re-working, re-arranging,
>>  re-wording, standardizing, expanding, and remaking the document.
>>
>>  Then came Kevin... who worked with the Boothe document and whom no
>>  one else could work with....  He put his name on every page.
>>
>>  At my request, Kevin did work on examples for every opcode and added
>>  this feature - and these continue to be replaced and revised with
>>  new, clear, and more educationally inspired models and examples....
>>
>>  As I understand it, Micheal Gogins came on with some tutorials and
>>  installation instructions.
>>
>>  But the new and incredibly wonderful (and more information-filled)
>>  canonical manual has been in the wonderful hands of Andres Cabrera.
>>
>>  Andres has really turned the document into a significantly improved
>>  educational and reference document and has been making major
>>  corrections and additions.
>>
>>
>>  With contributions from many many others (every opcode developer has
>>  provided wonderful manual pages and examples),
>>  since before 1979, the Music11->Csound documentation torch has  
>> mainly
>>  been carried and passed through 5 generations from:
>>
>>  1. Vercoe
>>
>>  2. Boulanger
>>  - ffitch
>>  - ekman
>>  - piché
>>
>>  3. Boothe
>>
>>  4. Conder
>>
>>  5. Cabrera
>>  - lazzarini
>>  - yi
>>  - gogins
>>
>>
>>  -dB
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>
>>> The manual is LGPL. The credits section refers mostly to the opcode
>>> itself, but possibly the manual page as well. I have been assuming
>>> that contributions for the manual have been made under the LGPL,  
>>> would
>>> it be better to have explicit permission?
>>>
>>> It might be good to remove the copyright (for MIT) that appears  
>>> on the
>>> initial page, since it refers to the original version, and not the
>>> current one.
>>>
>>> This makes me wonder, has the manual been cleared with MIT as  
>>> well as
>>> the csound sources? Or does this manual come entirely from Kevin
>>> Conder's efforts and should not be (c) MIT at all?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Felipe Sateler
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I'm currently packaging the csound manual now for debian. As part
>>>> of the
>>>>  process, I need to check all copyright notices and licenses, but
>>>> the manual
>>>>  is somewhat a mess in this respect: most files don't have any
>>>> copyright
>>>>  assignment. There is the copyright notice that gets output in the
>>>> manual
>>>>  itself, but I find it confusing: why aren't the people listed as
>>>> authors at
>>>>  the front page named there? Are they the only contributors? Some
>>>> pages have a
>>>>  Credits section. Maybe this could be interpreted as a copyright
>>>> statement?
>>>>
>>>>  So... what I guess I'm asking for is a clarification of the
>>>> copyright and
>>>>  licensing status of the manual.
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>  Felipe Sateler
>>>>
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"This original manual was improved and worked on by Richard Dobson,  
John ffitch, Jean Piché and Rasmus Ekman."
Richard Dobson or Richard Boulanger? (Or both?)



Am 19.04.2008 um 15:16 schrieb Andres Cabrera:
> Hi,
>
> I've rewritten the History page like this, please let me know if  
> there are inaccuracies, omissions, etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
> History of the Canonical Csound Reference Manual
> This initial version of this manual for early versions of Csound  
> was started at MIT by Barry L. Vercoe and maintained there during  
> the 1980's and start of the 1990's. Some of the manual comes from  
> documents for programs like Music11 from the 1970's. This original  
> manual was improved and worked on by Richard Dobson, John ffitch,  
> Jean Piché and Rasmus Ekman.
>
> This manual led to the Official Csound Reference Manual, still  
> located at: http://www.lakewoodsound.com/csound, for Csound version  
> 4.16, November, 1999, which was maintained by David M. Boothe.
>
> A parallel version of the manual called the Alternative Csound  
> Reference Manual, was developed by Kevin Conder using DocBook/SGML.  
> This version later became the Official version.
>
> When Csound was licenced as LGPL by MIT in 2003, the manual was  
> licenced GFDL and placed on Sourceforge along with the sources of  
> Csound.
>
> In the winter of 2004, the Alternative Manual was converted to  
> DocBook/XML by Steven Yi to allow for more people to be able to  
> compile and maintain the manual.
>
> The manual is currently maintained by Andrés Cabrera with  
> continuous contributions from the Csound Community.
>
> The manual continues to be a community run project that depends on  
> the contributions of developers and users to help refine the  
> coverage and accuracy of its contents. All contributions are  
> welcome and appreciated.
>
> Table 1. Other Contributors
>
> Mike Berry
> Eli Breder
> Michael Casey
> Michael Clark
> Perry Cook
> Sean Costello
> Richard Dobson
> Mark Dolson
> Dan Ellis
> Tom Erbe
> Bill Gardner
> Michael Gogins
> Matt Ingalls
> Richard Karpen
> Anthony Kozar
> Victor Lazzarini
> Allan Lee
> David Macintyre
> Gabriel Maldonado
> Max Mathews
> Hans Mikelson
> Peter Neubäcker
> Peter Nix
> Ville Pulkki
> Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu
> John Ramsdell
> Marc Resibois
> Rob Shaw
> Paris Smaragdis
> Greg Sullivan
> Istvan Varga
> Bill Verplank
> Robin Whittle
> Steven Yi
> François Pinot
>
> This list is by no means complete. More information can be gathered  
> from the Changelog file in the manual's sources repository.
>
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Andres Cabrera wrote:
> Right! Sorry, I used the XML entity &namerichard; and assumed it was 
> Richard Boulanger. I'll correct tonight.
> 

Definitely Richard Boulanger.

Though my general history with Csound is a fairly long one (goes back to 
early CDP days on the Atari in the 80s) I have no recollection of ever 
working on the manual as such (merely contributed some opcodes, and some 
code way back when).

Richard Dobson





> Thanks for the catch.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andrés
> 
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:21 PM, joachim heintz  > wrote:
> 
>     "This original manual was improved and worked on by Richard Dobson,
>     John ffitch, Jean Piché and Rasmus Ekman."
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Dear Andres,

I do think that the font it a bit small for the text (as Michael  
Goggins suggested).  (such as in the Preface, etc...)

I like the idea of colors and the font itself. (slate blue is  
excellent - brown is a little drab)

-dB

On May 29, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:

> On Thursday 29 May 2008 19:43:07 Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
>> Can you please send the URL to the new version of the Manual so we
>> can all see the colors and fonts (and vote)
>
> I had to put up a recent (a few hours ago) snapshpot of cvs at
> http://felipe.sateler.com/csound-manual/
>
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The colors are very nice.  I find the indentation of some of the headers
counterintuitive.

I think that the font size on opcode pages is way too small.  I have the
default size in my browser set to 14pt and the main text is showing up as
about 8pt.  (The stylesheet seems to call for 11pt though so not sure if
that is a browser bug ...)  With screen resolutions increasing greatly in
recent years, this will be unreadable for many people.  I would try using
relative sizes in the stylesheet so that the user's default becomes the main
text size or I would suggest a 12pt font for the main text (assuming that it
actually displays as such).

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Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote on 5/29/08 7:53 PM:

> Dear Andres,
> 
> I do think that the font it a bit small for the text (as Michael
> Goggins suggested).  (such as in the Preface, etc...)
> 
> I like the idea of colors and the font itself. (slate blue is
> excellent - brown is a little drab)
> 
> -dB


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Sorry to be late to this discussion -- deep in marking and stuff and
about 500 e-mail behind -- but I just took a look at the coloured
manual.

To my non-good eyesight the fonts are small, and the use of a ?blue
background to the summary of an opcode renders it unreadable.  Some of
the colours look sufficiently pale that I cannot read them on a white
background.  

eg: OENTRY Reference

In index the OENTRY is unreadable.  On the page the first column of
figure 17 is easy to ignore -- did not see the characters initially.

OTOH I am colour-blind, and that affects only about 15% of the male
population.

==John ffitch

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Originally the embedded docbook packages were a convenience --
especially for me as at that time I could not get any copy of the
stuff.
  Possible that it has changed since then of course
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Fails for me

sed -e 's|@xsl_base_path@|/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/|' xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl.in > xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl
echo "Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!"
Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!
mkdir -p html
xsltproc --nonet --xinclude -o html/ xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl manual.xml
warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl"
compilation error: file xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl line 6 element import
xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl
make: *** [html] Error 5

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As far as I can tell in /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet or
that+nwalsh
I know nothing about xml; just want a manual

Last time I tried the html-dist target did not work either as there
was no command html

If i am to set yet another environment variable, to what?
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I have a number of files with the names you specify

cardew:~/Sourceforge/csound5> locate chunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/customXHTMLchunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/chunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/profile-chunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/profile-onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/chunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/profile-chunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/profile-onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl.in
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-nochunk.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/chunk.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/onechunk.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/profile-chunk.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/profile-onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/chunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/profile-chunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/profile-onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/chunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/profile-chunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/profile-onechunk.xsl


cardew:~/Sourceforge/csound5> locate htmlhelp.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/htmlhelp/htmlhelp.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/htmlhelp/profile-htmlhelp.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/htmlhelp/htmlhelp.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/htmlhelp/profile-htmlhelp.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/slides/htmlhelp/htmlhelp.xsl


cardew:~/Sourceforge/csound5> locate onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/profile-onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/onechunk.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/profile-onechunk.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/onechunk.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/profile-onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/profile-onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/onechunk.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/profile-onechunk.xsl


cardew:~/Sourceforge/csound5> locate docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/fo/docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/fo/profile-docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/html/profile-docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/manpages/docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/manpages/profile-docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/roundtrip/docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/docbook.xsl
/home/jpff/Sourceforge/manual/docbook-xsl-1.73.2/xhtml/profile-docbook.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/docbook.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/html/profile-docbook.xsl
/opt/kde3/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/manpages/docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/fo/docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/fo/profile-docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/html/profile-docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/manpages/docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/manpages/profile-docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/roundtrip/docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/docbook.xsl
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/xhtml/profile-docbook.xsl

Does this mean i need to set the variable to
/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1/ 
?

Still confused
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(as so often the case, days behind in e-mail)
Just updated the manual files and make did not work
cardew:~/Sourceforge/manual> make
echo "Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!"
Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!
mkdir -p html
xsltproc --nonet --xinclude -o html/ xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl manual.xml
warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl"
compilation error: file xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl line 6 element import
xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl
make: *** [html] Error 5

The // in the file name looks odd at best.

I assume this means that the automatic code does not work.

Now to try with an environment variable

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(continuing previous message)

Now to try with an environment variable

cardew:~/Sourceforge/manual> setenv XSL_BASE_PATH /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1
cardew:~/Sourceforge/manual> make
echo "Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!"
Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!
mkdir -p html
xsltproc --nonet --xinclude -o html/ xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl manual.xml
warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl"
compilation error: file xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl line 6 element import
xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl
make: *** [html] Error 5

Seems to ignore the environment variable

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Still am failing with a Makefile variable

cardew:~/Sourceforge/manual> make XSL_BASE_PATH=/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1
echo "Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!"
Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!
mkdir -p html
xsltproc --nonet --xinclude -o html/ xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl manual.xml
warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl"
compilation error: file xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl line 6 element import
xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl
make: *** [html] Error 5

I may just be hopelessly confused now!

I can build by reverting to the docbook distrubuted in the manual tree

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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sun,  7 Dec 2008 08:27:28 
To: Developer discussions
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Subject: Re: [Cs-dev]
	Unbundling docbook from the manual (was
	: Manual	copyright )


Still am failing with a Makefile variable

cardew:~/Sourceforge/manual> make XSL_BASE_PATH=/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh/1.73.1
echo "Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!"
Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!
mkdir -p html
xsltproc --nonet --xinclude -o html/ xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl manual.xml
warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl"
compilation error: file xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl line 6 element import
xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl
make: *** [html] Error 5

I may just be hopelessly confused now!

I can build by reverting to the docbook distrubuted in the manual tree

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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sat,  6 Dec 2008 08:53:25 
To: Developer discussions
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Subject: Re: [Cs-dev]
	Unbundling docbook from the manual (was
	: Manual	copyright )


(as so often the case, days behind in e-mail)
Just updated the manual files and make did not work
cardew:~/Sourceforge/manual> make
echo "Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!"
Remember to use the html-dist target for distribution!
mkdir -p html
xsltproc --nonet --xinclude -o html/ xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl manual.xml
warning: failed to load external entity "/usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl"
compilation error: file xsl/customXHTMLchunk.xsl line 6 element import
xsl:import : unable to load /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/nwalsh//xhtml/chunk.xsl
make: *** [html] Error 5

The // in the file name looks odd at best.

I assume this means that the automatic code does not work.

Now to try with an environment variable

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