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Date2012-04-29 22:40
FromSteven Yi
Subject[Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
Hi All,

I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then was
that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?

Thanks!
steven

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Date2012-04-29 22:57
FromVictor
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be multiversion.



On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then was
> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
> 
> Thanks!
> steven
> 
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Date2012-04-29 23:01
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
(Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether it
is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project does
not work any longer due to the API changes.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor  wrote:
> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be multiversion.
>
>
>
> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then was
>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
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Date2012-04-29 23:18
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
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This should be done, but can be problematic. One means is for a "shell" in the hosted dynamic language to import an actual library depending on architecture or version, e.g. "import csound" could in turn execute "import csound64.5.17" or "import csound32.6". This is what wxPython does. I don't now this would work in other languages.

Regards,
Mike

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
(Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether it
is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project does
not work any longer due to the API changes.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be multiversion.
>
>
>
> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then was
>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
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Date2012-04-30 08:36
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
Hi,

Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries should
all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).

Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether it
> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project does
> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor  wrote:
>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be multiversion.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then was
>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> steven
>>>
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>>
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Date2012-04-30 13:31
Fromandy fillebrown
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
.dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.

~ andy.f



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries should
> all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
> libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
> leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
> default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
>
> Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
> considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
>> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether it
>> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
>> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
>> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project does
>> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor  wrote:
>>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be multiversion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then was
>>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
>>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date2012-04-30 14:04
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
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It is possible to link with the version number last, but I agree with you anyway, what you say is easier to deal with.

Regards,
Mike

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM, andy fillebrown <andy.fillebrown@gmail.com> wrote:
Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
.dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.

~ andy.f



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries should
> all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
> libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
> leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
> default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
>
> Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
> considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
>> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether it
>> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
>> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
>> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project does
>> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be multiversion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then was
>>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
>>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
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>>>
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Date2012-04-30 17:14
Fromandy fillebrown
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
Is there a way to get mingw to find the csound library using -lcsound?

~ andy.f



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> It is possible to link with the version number last, but I agree with you
> anyway, what you say is easier to deal with.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM, andy fillebrown 
> wrote:
>>
>> Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
>> .dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
>> last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.
>>
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries should
>> > all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
>> > libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
>> > leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
>> > default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
>> >
>> > Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
>> > considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Andrés
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
>> >> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether it
>> >> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
>> >> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
>> >> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project does
>> >> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be
>> >>> multiversion.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi All,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>> >>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>> >>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>> >>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then
>> >>>> was
>> >>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
>> >>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>> steven
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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Date2012-04-30 18:11
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
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This works on MinGW:

-l:csound64.dll.5.2

The colon following "-l" indicates that the library name is to be regarded as a literal pathname.

I believe colon works on Linux also.

Regards,
Mike

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM, andy fillebrown <andy.fillebrown@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way to get mingw to find the csound library using -lcsound?

~ andy.f



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael Gogins
<michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is possible to link with the version number last, but I agree with you
> anyway, what you say is easier to deal with.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM, andy fillebrown <andy.fillebrown@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
>> .dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
>> last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.
>>
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries should
>> > all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
>> > libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
>> > leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
>> > default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
>> >
>> > Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
>> > considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Andrés
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
>> >> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether it
>> >> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
>> >> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
>> >> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project does
>> >> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be
>> >>> multiversion.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi All,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>> >>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>> >>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>> >>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then
>> >>>> was
>> >>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist on
>> >>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>> steven
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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Date2012-04-30 18:13
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
I thought on *nix systems, the library names were
name.version.extension?  Is the convention just different on Windows?

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> This works on MinGW:
>
> -l:csound64.dll.5.2
>
> The colon following "-l" indicates that the library name is to be regarded
> as a literal pathname.
>
> I believe colon works on Linux also.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM, andy fillebrown
>  wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to get mingw to find the csound library using -lcsound?
>>
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>> > It is possible to link with the version number last, but I agree with
>> > you
>> > anyway, what you say is easier to deal with.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM, andy fillebrown
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
>> >> .dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
>> >> last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.
>> >>
>> >> ~ andy.f
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries
>> >> > should
>> >> > all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
>> >> > libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
>> >> > leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
>> >> > default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
>> >> > considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Andrés
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
>> >> >> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
>> >> >> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
>> >> >> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project
>> >> >> does
>> >> >> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be
>> >> >>> multiversion.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Hi All,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>> >> >>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>> >> >>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>> >> >>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then
>> >> >>>> was
>> >> >>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist
>> >> >>>> on
>> >> >>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Thanks!
>> >> >>>> steven
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>> >> >>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>> >> >>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond.
>> >> >>>> Discussions
>> >> >>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in
>> >> >>>> malware
>> >> >>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >> >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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Date2012-04-30 18:42
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
>From the current GNU binutils manual for linker options (applies to
all platforms):

-l namespec
--library=namespec
Add the archive or object file specified by namespec to the list of
files to link. This option may be used any number of times. If
namespec is of the form :filename, ld will search the library path for
a file called filename, otherwise it will search the library path for
a file calledlibnamespec.a.

Regards,
Mike


On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>
> I thought on *nix systems, the library names were
> name.version.extension?  Is the convention just different on Windows?
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
> > This works on MinGW:
> >
> > -l:csound64.dll.5.2
> >
> > The colon following "-l" indicates that the library name is to be regarded
> > as a literal pathname.
> >
> > I believe colon works on Linux also.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM, andy fillebrown
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there a way to get mingw to find the csound library using -lcsound?
> >>
> >> ~ andy.f
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael Gogins
> >>  wrote:
> >> > It is possible to link with the version number last, but I agree with
> >> > you
> >> > anyway, what you say is easier to deal with.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM, andy fillebrown
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
> >> >> .dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
> >> >> last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.
> >> >>
> >> >> ~ andy.f
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries
> >> >> > should
> >> >> > all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
> >> >> > libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
> >> >> > leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
> >> >> > default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
> >> >> > considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> > Andrés
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
> >> >> >> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
> >> >> >> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
> >> >> >> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project
> >> >> >> does
> >> >> >> not work any longer due to the API changes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor 
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be
> >> >> >>> multiversion.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> Hi All,
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
> >> >> >>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
> >> >> >>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
> >> >> >>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then
> >> >> >>>> was
> >> >> >>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist
> >> >> >>>> on
> >> >> >>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Thanks!
> >> >> >>>> steven
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>>> Live Security Virtual Conference
> >> >> >>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
> >> >> >>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond.
> >> >> >>>> Discussions
> >> >> >>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in
> >> >> >>>> malware
> >> >> >>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >>>> Csound-devel mailing list
> >> >> >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
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> >> >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond.
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> >> >> >>> malware
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Date2012-05-01 12:37
Fromandy fillebrown
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
*nix uses name.extension.version
Windows uses name-version.extension.

~ andy.f



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> I thought on *nix systems, the library names were
> name.version.extension?  Is the convention just different on Windows?
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Michael Gogins
>  wrote:
>> This works on MinGW:
>>
>> -l:csound64.dll.5.2
>>
>> The colon following "-l" indicates that the library name is to be regarded
>> as a literal pathname.
>>
>> I believe colon works on Linux also.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM, andy fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a way to get mingw to find the csound library using -lcsound?
>>>
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael Gogins
>>>  wrote:
>>> > It is possible to link with the version number last, but I agree with
>>> > you
>>> > anyway, what you say is easier to deal with.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM, andy fillebrown
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
>>> >> .dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
>>> >> last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.
>>> >>
>>> >> ~ andy.f
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries
>>> >> > should
>>> >> > all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
>>> >> > libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
>>> >> > leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
>>> >> > default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
>>> >> > considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheers,
>>> >> > Andrés
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
>>> >> >> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
>>> >> >> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
>>> >> >> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project
>>> >> >> does
>>> >> >> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be
>>> >> >>> multiversion.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> Hi All,
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>>> >> >>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>>> >> >>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>>> >> >>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then
>>> >> >>>> was
>>> >> >>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist
>>> >> >>>> on
>>> >> >>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Thanks!
>>> >> >>>> steven
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
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Date2012-05-01 12:39
Fromandy fillebrown
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Library and Executable names/versions
Good to know.  Thanks!

~ andy.f



On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Michael Gogins
 wrote:
> >From the current GNU binutils manual for linker options (applies to
> all platforms):
>
> -l namespec
> --library=namespec
> Add the archive or object file specified by namespec to the list of
> files to link. This option may be used any number of times. If
> namespec is of the form :filename, ld will search the library path for
> a file called filename, otherwise it will search the library path for
> a file calledlibnamespec.a.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> I thought on *nix systems, the library names were
>> name.version.extension?  Is the convention just different on Windows?
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Michael Gogins
>>  wrote:
>> > This works on MinGW:
>> >
>> > -l:csound64.dll.5.2
>> >
>> > The colon following "-l" indicates that the library name is to be regarded
>> > as a literal pathname.
>> >
>> > I believe colon works on Linux also.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM, andy fillebrown
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Is there a way to get mingw to find the csound library using -lcsound?
>> >>
>> >> ~ andy.f
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Michael Gogins
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > It is possible to link with the version number last, but I agree with
>> >> > you
>> >> > anyway, what you say is easier to deal with.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:31 AM, andy fillebrown
>> >> > 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Whatever is decided, please don't put the version number after the
>> >> >> .dll extension on Windows as it is now.  The .dll should always come
>> >> >> last on Windows to enable linking with -lcsound.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ~ andy.f
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Andres Cabrera 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yes, I think this is a very good idea. Maybe the main libraries
>> >> >> > should
>> >> >> > all contain a "6": libcsound6, libcsound6_d libcsnd6, libcsnd6,
>> >> >> > libcsnd6_d (I'm suggesting also the use of _d instead of 64 as it
>> >> >> > leads to a lot of confusion for users, or maybe since doubles is the
>> >> >> > default, use libcsnd6_f for floats and leave doubles simpler).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Also, since plugin architecture might change, maybe it's worth
>> >> >> > considering OPCODEDIR6 and OPCODEDIR6_F, or something like that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >> > Andrés
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Steven Yi 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> I should have noted, I was thinking particularly of the interfaces
>> >> >> >> (Java, Python, etc.).  Currently they're all named the same whether
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> is float or double, but that's another matter.  I can imagine with a
>> >> >> >> python project that is made for csound5 using the API, a user could
>> >> >> >> install csound6, then get sorely disappointed that their project
>> >> >> >> does
>> >> >> >> not work any longer due to the API changes.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Victor 
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> on OSX, that should not be a problem, as frameworks can be
>> >> >> >>> multiversion.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:40, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Hi All,
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> I was thinking should we rename the libraries so that they can
>> >> >> >>>> co-exist with the csound5 libs?  My thought is that it might be
>> >> >> >>>> possible that apps that are developed for csound5 might not get
>> >> >> >>>> updated for csound6, but should continue to work.  My thought then
>> >> >> >>>> was
>> >> >> >>>> that it would be nice if both csound5 and csound6 could co-exist
>> >> >> >>>> on
>> >> >> >>>> the same system.  Should we come up with a strategy for this?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Thanks!
>> >> >> >>>> steven
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>> >> >> >>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>> >> >> >>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond.
>> >> >> >>>> Discussions
>> >> >> >>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in
>> >> >> >>>> malware
>> >> >> >>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >> >> >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> > Irreducible Productions
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>> >> > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>> >> >
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