Just a thought (and even just a half thought thought..),
if we should start teaching the functional syntax, maybe the manual
should be updated with syntax examples for each opcode?

for example in the page for oscil

ares oscil xamp, xcps [, ifn, iphs]

ares = oscil(xamp,xcps)

or something along those lines?


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+1

I have recently made the switch and strongly prefer this syntax. Looking forward to being able to use it even more consistently (e.g., with opcodes that return multiple values).

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:

Just a thought (and even just a half thought thought..),
if we should start teaching the functional syntax, maybe the manual
should be updated with syntax examples for each opcode?

for example in the page for oscil

ares oscil xamp, xcps [, ifn, iphs]

ares = oscil(xamp,xcps)

or something along those lines?


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Thanks, Victor, good to know and I will give it a try. I am not concerned about the other case you mention, as it does not tend to enhance readability.

- Dave

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

I think you can already use multiple value returns in Csound 6.05 (Steven might confirm this)

a1, a2 = opcode(...)

What you can't and will probably not be able to do is to use them inline as input to functions. That is one problem that has not got an easy solution, and many languages do not actually allow it.

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Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 12 May 2015, at 17:21, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:

+1

I have recently made the switch and strongly prefer this syntax. Looking forward to being able to use it even more consistently (e.g., with opcodes that return multiple values).

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:

Just a thought (and even just a half thought thought..),
if we should start teaching the functional syntax, maybe the manual
should be updated with syntax examples for each opcode?

for example in the page for oscil

ares oscil xamp, xcps [, ifn, iphs]

ares = oscil(xamp,xcps)

or something along those lines?


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Alas, this is not working yet (I'm on the develop branch, so I would presume post-6.05, and the displayed version is 6.05.

The statement

    aLeft, aRight = pan2(aout, ipan)

results in

    error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting T_OPCODE or T_FUNCTION or ',' or '['  (token "= ") from file imaginary_harmony.csd (1)

     line 124:

    >>> aLeft, aRight =  <<<

    Unexpected untyped word aRight when expecting a variable

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Victor, good to know and I will give it a try. I am not concerned about the other case you mention, as it does not tend to enhance readability.

- Dave

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

I think you can already use multiple value returns in Csound 6.05 (Steven might confirm this)

a1, a2 = opcode(...)

What you can't and will probably not be able to do is to use them inline as input to functions. That is one problem that has not got an easy solution, and many languages do not actually allow it.

Victor Lazzarini

Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 12 May 2015, at 17:21, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:

+1

I have recently made the switch and strongly prefer this syntax. Looking forward to being able to use it even more consistently (e.g., with opcodes that return multiple values).

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <oyvind.brandtsegg@ntnu.no> wrote:

Just a thought (and even just a half thought thought..),
if we should start teaching the functional syntax, maybe the manual
should be updated with syntax examples for each opcode?

for example in the page for oscil

ares oscil xamp, xcps [, ifn, iphs]

ares = oscil(xamp,xcps)

or something along those lines?


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I had to check but it is implemented in the parser3 branch, and has a test file:

https://github.com/csound/csound/blob/feature/parser3/tests/commandline/test_multiple_return.csd



On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> Ah, it must be parser3 then. Csound 7.
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 12 May 2015, at 17:50, Dave Seidel  wrote:
>
> Alas, this is not working yet (I'm on the develop branch, so I would presume
> post-6.05, and the displayed version is 6.05.
>
> The statement
>
>     aLeft, aRight = pan2(aout, ipan)
>
>
>
> results in
>
>
>     error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting T_OPCODE or T_FUNCTION or
> ',' or '['  (token "= ") from file imaginary_harmony.csd (1)
>      line 124:
>     >>> aLeft, aRight =  <<<
>     Unexpected untyped word aRight when expecting a variable
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Dave Seidel  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Victor, good to know and I will give it a try. I am not concerned
>> about the other case you mention, as it does not tend to enhance
>> readability.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think you can already use multiple value returns in Csound 6.05 (Steven
>>> might confirm this)
>>>
>>> a1, a2 = opcode(...)
>>>
>>> What you can't and will probably not be able to do is to use them inline
>>> as input to functions. That is one problem that has not got an easy
>>> solution, and many languages do not actually allow it.
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Dean of Arts, Celtic Studies, and Philosophy
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>> On 12 May 2015, at 17:21, Dave Seidel  wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> I have recently made the switch and strongly prefer this syntax. Looking
>>> forward to being able to use it even more consistently (e.g., with opcodes
>>> that return multiple values).
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought (and even just a half thought thought..),
>>>> if we should start teaching the functional syntax, maybe the manual
>>>> should be updated with syntax examples for each opcode?
>>>>
>>>> for example in the page for oscil
>>>>
>>>> ares oscil xamp, xcps [, ifn, iphs]
>>>>
>>>> ares = oscil(xamp,xcps)
>>>>
>>>> or something along those lines?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
>>>> Professor of Music Technology
>>>> NTNU
>>>> 7491 Trondheim
>>>> Norway
>>>> Cell: +47 92 203 205
>>>>
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>>>> http://www.partikkelaudio.com/
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