Re: [Cs-dev] Windows build (was Re: Happy Birthday to DrB)

Date	2006-11-17 16:38
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Windows build (was Re: Happy Birthday to DrB)
	I have a firm policy, based on long experience, of not patching or maintaining tools. I'm not going to start now. This weekend I will put the withMinGW option back in, default to 1, and loading custom-msvc.py if withMinGW=0. I see no reason why this will not work for you. I appreciate your desire for an out of the box experience, but some people (possibly me, in future) may wish to maintain both a MinGW build of Csound 5 and an MSVC build on the same machine. I don't see how to do this reliably without a manual build option, which of course can be passed from a shell script. Regards, Mike -----Original Message----- >From: Victor Lazzarini >Sent: Nov 17, 2006 11:31 AM >To: Michael Gogins , Developer discussions >Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Windows build (was Re: Happy Birthday to DrB) > >Installing mingw/msys might sort it out or it might not, I don't know. >Scons says it defaults to msvc if it is present (and looks for the registry >for it, so paths will not matter then). > >At home, 'gcc', 'mingw', etc. are found as tools, but it does not look like >they are found in your system, perhaps you need to re-install scons. > >If you make the simple changes I advised, you will not need to maintain >anything, it will work, as the defaults will change to gcc etc. >Of course if you are installing stuff again, you will need to >re-set the defaults to gcc etc. > >If you can find an alternative fix that works and loads custom-msvc.py, >go ahead and do it. But I would prefer if it was done automatically, by >looking at the toolset found by scons, if possible (it should indeed be >possible, if scons is working correctly). As I am building stuff on several >platforms, the more self-configuring things are, the better, as I am also >short on time for development. > >Victor > >At 15:11 17/11/2006, you wrote: >>I don't have time to maintain variants on the tools I use. In my view, >>patching tools is very much the wrong approach. >> >>What is the reason that your SCons tools list contains 'mingw' and mine >>does not? Do you have a record of the installation procedures that you >>followed? >> >>I'm willing to re-install MSys/MinGW if doing that would fix this, but not >>unless I am reasonably confident that re-installing will indeed fix it. >> >>Otherwise, I'll put the withMinGW option back in, but I'll change >>SConstruct to use custom-msvc.py if withMinGW=0 is found. >> >>By the way, there are new versions of both SCons and SWIG available now. >>I'm going to see if the new SWIG offers advantages for Java, Lisp, and >>Lua. The new SWIG also supports Python 2.5. >> >>Regards, >>Mike >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >From: Victor Lazzarini >> >Sent: Nov 17, 2006 5:47 AM >> >To: Developer discussions >> >Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Windows build (was Re: Happy Birthday to DrB) >> > >> >I had a look at this and I think the problem is with your Scons set-up. It >> >should find the string 'mingw' amongst your scons tools list, but it's >> >not there, for some reason, Scons will not detect it. >> > >> >That's why you need to add it, manually, to the tools list; when scons >> >start, it should list the tools; if they are not in the list, then that's a >> >scons set-up problem. >> > >> >As reported here, csound5 builds fine on properly set-up systems (mine >> >at home as well). >> > >> >I have looked around and here's a fix for your scons set-up >> > >> >In the scons directory, open SCons\Tool\__init__.py >> > >> >edit the following bit so that it looks like this (from line 246): >> > >> > if str(platform) == 'win32': >> > #"prefer Microsoft tools on Windows" >> > "prefer GNU tools on all other platforms" >> > linkers = ['gnulink', 'mslink', 'ilink'] >> > c_compilers = ['gcc', 'msvc', 'icc', 'cc'] >> > cxx_compilers = ['g++', 'msvc', 'icc', 'c++'] >> > assemblers = ['gas', 'nasm', 'masm'] >> > fortran_compilers = ['g77', 'ifort', 'ifl', 'fortran'] >> > ars = ['ar', 'mslib'] >> > #linkers = ['mslink', 'gnulink', 'ilink', 'linkloc', 'ilink32' ] >> > #c_compilers = ['msvc', 'mingw', 'gcc', 'icl', 'icc', 'cc', >> 'bcc32' ] >> > #cxx_compilers = ['msvc', 'icc', 'g++', 'c++', 'bcc32' ] >> > #assemblers = ['masm', 'nasm', 'gas', '386asm' ] >> > #fortran_compilers = ['g77', 'ifl', 'cvf', 'fortran'] >> > #ars = ['mslib', 'ar', 'tlib'] >> > >> >Save and then just run scons as usual. >> > >> >I put msys here in my system and was able to build csound with it, >> >even having MSVC in my path. >> > >> >Victor >> > >> > >> >At 03:33 17/11/2006, you wrote: >> >>Csound 5 again does not build with MinGW. There absolutely has to be a >> >>manual option to determine the build platform on Windows. >> >> >> >>Victor, feel free to do it yourself -- if you don't, I'll try to come up >> >>with something that will be easier to use with MSVC. >> >> >> >>Regards, >> >>Mike >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "Victor Lazzarini" >> >>To: "Developer discussions" >> >>Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:20 AM >> >>Subject: [Cs-dev] Windows build (was Re: Happy Birthday to DrB) >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > The problem is that these changes now have made it impossible to >> >> > build on MSVC. >> >> > >> >> > The major problem is that custom-msvc does not get loaded now even >> >> > withMinGW=0 (the line that calls it is nowhere in Sconstruct !). But I >> >> > can't add an if-else to load custom-msvc.py because it has to happen >> >> > before the MinGW option check! >> >> > >> >> > So I did some changes that will hopefully detect mingw, even on a >> >> > system with MSVC in as well. What I tried to do was to detect >> >> > if mingw was at all in the system, by checking that it is in the tools >> >> > list; if so it sets withMinGW to 1 and everything else proceeds as per >> >> > your code. >> >> > >> >> > I also set the buildInterfaces option to default to '0' (I think >> this was >> >> > the original form). >> >> > >> >> > Could you let me know if this has worked for you? Otherwise we will >> >> > have to look for a different solution. Although I prefer the default >> >> > build platform to be msys/gcc, I am keen on keeping the MSVC build >> >> > alive. >> >> > >> >> > Victor >> >> > >> >> > At 03:22 15/11/2006, you wrote: >> >> >>Happy birthday, Richard! >> >> >> >> >> >>I am preparing the Windows build. I have had to make some changes to >> >> >>SConstruct -- it will not automatically detect MSVC or MinGW, it >> defaults >> >> >>to >> >> >>MinGW but you can override that by setting withMinGW=0. If you do build >> >> >>with >> >> >>MSVC you have to first copy custom-msvc.py over custom.py, also. Anyway, >> >> >>everything builds and runs as before. >> >> >> >> >> >>Best, >> >> >>Mike >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger" >> >> >>To: "Developer discussions" >> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:40 PM >> >> >>Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Happy Birthday to DrB >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > John, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > THANKS SO MUCH >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -dB >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Nov 10, 2006, at 12:17 PM, >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> and as a small present, I have just release Csound 5.04 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At present we are missing the Windows build, but hej! today is his >> >> >> >> birthday. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Many Happy Returns >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==John ffitch >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> --- >> >> >> >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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