Hi All,

I've been investigating some things related to moving to Github.  I'm
currently looking at the project https://github.com/ttencate/sf2github
that Felipe mentioned.  It turns out someone had contributed a script
to migrate from SF's newer JSON export format to Github. I've been
experimenting with it to migrate Blue's tickets with some success.
I've had to modify the script though and would expect to do the same
for Csound's tickets.  The results are available for viewing at this
test-project:

https://github.com/kunstmusik/test-project/issues

My take on this would be to setup a similar test-project for Csound
and do experiments with migrating tickets and the Git repo. The idea
would be to use the test-project to tweak settings until they're
acceptable, then delete the test-project and do a final migration run.

Also, for the csound.github.io site, it's currently being built using
Pelican[1]. However, the site's HTML that is committed to the Github
repo[2] for the site is the generated HTML, not the source, and would
require regeneration and pushing as far as I understand (please
correct me Joachim if I've gotten this wrong).  I think we should
change to using Jekyll[3], which is supported by Github
out-of-the-box[4]. There's also a tutorial I found at [5]. A good
example of a site built with Jekyll and Bootstrap is the new wxWidgets
homepage[6]. It should allow us to do news posts as well as pages,
which I think would be useful.

steven


[1] - http://getpelican.com/
[2] - https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io
[3] - http://jekyllrb.com/
[4] - https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages
[5] - http://24ways.org/2013/get-started-with-github-pages/
[6] - http://wxwidgets.org/

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On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>
> Also, for the csound.github.io site, it's currently being built using
> Pelican[1]. However, the site's HTML that is committed to the Github
> repo[2] for the site is the generated HTML, not the source, and would
> require regeneration and pushing as far as I understand (please
> correct me Joachim if I've gotten this wrong).  I think we should
> change to using Jekyll[3], which is supported by Github
> out-of-the-box[4]. There's also a tutorial I found at [5]. A good
> example of a site built with Jekyll and Bootstrap is the new wxWidgets
> homepage[6]. It should allow us to do news posts as well as pages,
> which I think would be useful.

A while ago the csound.sf.net site was redirected to csounds.com. I
think the thing to do here is the same.



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We had discussed amongst ourselves to build up a page for the project
that is separate from the csounds.com community site.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> Also, for the csound.github.io site, it's currently being built using
>> Pelican[1]. However, the site's HTML that is committed to the Github
>> repo[2] for the site is the generated HTML, not the source, and would
>> require regeneration and pushing as far as I understand (please
>> correct me Joachim if I've gotten this wrong).  I think we should
>> change to using Jekyll[3], which is supported by Github
>> out-of-the-box[4]. There's also a tutorial I found at [5]. A good
>> example of a site built with Jekyll and Bootstrap is the new wxWidgets
>> homepage[6]. It should allow us to do news posts as well as pages,
>> which I think would be useful.
>
> A while ago the csound.sf.net site was redirected to csounds.com. I
> think the thing to do here is the same.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
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I think it's important that the project has its own home page.

On 12 February 2014 17:10, Steven Yi  wrote:
> We had discussed amongst ourselves to build up a page for the project
> that is separate from the csounds.com community site.
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, for the csound.github.io site, it's currently being built using
>>> Pelican[1]. However, the site's HTML that is committed to the Github
>>> repo[2] for the site is the generated HTML, not the source, and would
>>> require regeneration and pushing as far as I understand (please
>>> correct me Joachim if I've gotten this wrong).  I think we should
>>> change to using Jekyll[3], which is supported by Github
>>> out-of-the-box[4]. There's also a tutorial I found at [5]. A good
>>> example of a site built with Jekyll and Bootstrap is the new wxWidgets
>>> homepage[6]. It should allow us to do news posts as well as pages,
>>> which I think would be useful.
>>
>> A while ago the csound.sf.net site was redirected to csounds.com. I
>> think the thing to do here is the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Felipe Sateler
>>
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hi steven -

thanks for all these explorations. as to the project site, i think it 
should also be possible with pelican: 
http://docs.getpelican.com/en/3.3.0/tips.html

as i have put some time in setting up the site with pelican, i would 
prefer to stay on this, if any possible. on a first view it looks to me 
that pelican and jekyll are very similar.

i am a bit surprised that the site is not visible at all at 
https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io/commits/master. i thought it 
was the case two months ago?

best -

	joachim


Am 12.02.2014 17:08, schrieb Steven Yi:
> Hi All,
>
> I've been investigating some things related to moving to Github.  I'm
> currently looking at the project https://github.com/ttencate/sf2github
> that Felipe mentioned.  It turns out someone had contributed a script
> to migrate from SF's newer JSON export format to Github. I've been
> experimenting with it to migrate Blue's tickets with some success.
> I've had to modify the script though and would expect to do the same
> for Csound's tickets.  The results are available for viewing at this
> test-project:
>
> https://github.com/kunstmusik/test-project/issues
>
> My take on this would be to setup a similar test-project for Csound
> and do experiments with migrating tickets and the Git repo. The idea
> would be to use the test-project to tweak settings until they're
> acceptable, then delete the test-project and do a final migration run.
>
> Also, for the csound.github.io site, it's currently being built using
> Pelican[1]. However, the site's HTML that is committed to the Github
> repo[2] for the site is the generated HTML, not the source, and would
> require regeneration and pushing as far as I understand (please
> correct me Joachim if I've gotten this wrong).  I think we should
> change to using Jekyll[3], which is supported by Github
> out-of-the-box[4]. There's also a tutorial I found at [5]. A good
> example of a site built with Jekyll and Bootstrap is the new wxWidgets
> homepage[6]. It should allow us to do news posts as well as pages,
> which I think would be useful.
>
> steven
>
>
> [1] - http://getpelican.com/
> [2] - https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io
> [3] - http://jekyllrb.com/
> [4] - https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages
> [5] - http://24ways.org/2013/get-started-with-github-pages/
> [6] - http://wxwidgets.org/
>
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http://csound.github.io/
Looks good to me. Simple, clean and efficient. Just like Csound!

sent from a mobile device...

ah yes, http not https -- that's the trick. thanks rory -
	j


Am 12.02.2014 21:48, schrieb Rory Walsh:
> http://csound.github.io/
> Looks good to me. Simple, clean and efficient. Just like Csound!
>
> sent from a mobile device...
>
> On 12 Feb 2014 20:03, "joachim heintz"  > wrote:
>
>     hi steven -
>
>     thanks for all these explorations. as to the project site, i think it
>     should also be possible with pelican:
>     http://docs.getpelican.com/en/3.3.0/tips.html
>
>     as i have put some time in setting up the site with pelican, i would
>     prefer to stay on this, if any possible. on a first view it looks to me
>     that pelican and jekyll are very similar.
>
>     i am a bit surprised that the site is not visible at all at
>     https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io/commits/master. i thought it
>     was the case two months ago?
>
>     best -
>
>              joachim
>
>
>     Am 12.02.2014 17:08, schrieb Steven Yi:
>      > Hi All,
>      >
>      > I've been investigating some things related to moving to Github.  I'm
>      > currently looking at the project
>     https://github.com/ttencate/sf2github
>      > that Felipe mentioned.  It turns out someone had contributed a script
>      > to migrate from SF's newer JSON export format to Github. I've been
>      > experimenting with it to migrate Blue's tickets with some success.
>      > I've had to modify the script though and would expect to do the same
>      > for Csound's tickets.  The results are available for viewing at this
>      > test-project:
>      >
>      > https://github.com/kunstmusik/test-project/issues
>      >
>      > My take on this would be to setup a similar test-project for Csound
>      > and do experiments with migrating tickets and the Git repo. The idea
>      > would be to use the test-project to tweak settings until they're
>      > acceptable, then delete the test-project and do a final migration
>     run.
>      >
>      > Also, for the csound.github.io  site,
>     it's currently being built using
>      > Pelican[1]. However, the site's HTML that is committed to the Github
>      > repo[2] for the site is the generated HTML, not the source, and would
>      > require regeneration and pushing as far as I understand (please
>      > correct me Joachim if I've gotten this wrong).  I think we should
>      > change to using Jekyll[3], which is supported by Github
>      > out-of-the-box[4]. There's also a tutorial I found at [5]. A good
>      > example of a site built with Jekyll and Bootstrap is the new
>     wxWidgets
>      > homepage[6]. It should allow us to do news posts as well as pages,
>      > which I think would be useful.
>      >
>      > steven
>      >
>      >
>      > [1] - http://getpelican.com/
>      > [2] - https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io
>      > [3] - http://jekyllrb.com/
>      > [4] - https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages
>      > [5] - http://24ways.org/2013/get-started-with-github-pages/
>      > [6] - http://wxwidgets.org/
>      >
>      >
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I think Andres' email speaks to the point I was trying to make. The
source (in markdown) would be what is pushed to the github repo, not
the generated pages.  Pelican requires someone actually generate then
push the generated files to github.  That means if we want to commonly
work on the source, we'd have to have a separate repo or branch to do
that, then someone would have to constantly do the re-generation and
pushing to github.

With Jekyll, we should be able to just use the markdown files, html
templates, js and css files.  We could all then edit the markdown
files and push and let Github re-generate everything automatically.
As Andres mentioned, if the Pelican source that you have put together
is in Markdown already, it should be pretty easy to migrate to Jekyll.

Really, the technologies are quite similar, but the built-in support
and generation in Github for Jekyll is what made me propose we switch
to that.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think the fact that jeckyll processing is automatic on github  is a big
> plus. That way, anyone can add content with a git push or a pull request.
> Since jeckyll also uses markdown, it should be trivial to port to.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:56 PM, joachim heintz 
> wrote:
>>
>> ah yes, http not https -- that's the trick. thanks rory -
>>         j
>>
>>
>> Am 12.02.2014 21:48, schrieb Rory Walsh:
>> > http://csound.github.io/
>> > Looks good to me. Simple, clean and efficient. Just like Csound!
>> >
>> > sent from a mobile device...
>> >
>> > On 12 Feb 2014 20:03, "joachim heintz" > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >     hi steven -
>> >
>> >     thanks for all these explorations. as to the project site, i think
>> > it
>> >     should also be possible with pelican:
>> >     http://docs.getpelican.com/en/3.3.0/tips.html
>> >
>> >     as i have put some time in setting up the site with pelican, i would
>> >     prefer to stay on this, if any possible. on a first view it looks to
>> > me
>> >     that pelican and jekyll are very similar.
>> >
>> >     i am a bit surprised that the site is not visible at all at
>> >     https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io/commits/master. i thought
>> > it
>> >     was the case two months ago?
>> >
>> >     best -
>> >
>> >              joachim
>> >
>> >
>> >     Am 12.02.2014 17:08, schrieb Steven Yi:
>> >      > Hi All,
>> >      >
>> >      > I've been investigating some things related to moving to Github.
>> > I'm
>> >      > currently looking at the project
>> >     https://github.com/ttencate/sf2github
>> >      > that Felipe mentioned.  It turns out someone had contributed a
>> > script
>> >      > to migrate from SF's newer JSON export format to Github. I've
>> > been
>> >      > experimenting with it to migrate Blue's tickets with some
>> > success.
>> >      > I've had to modify the script though and would expect to do the
>> > same
>> >      > for Csound's tickets.  The results are available for viewing at
>> > this
>> >      > test-project:
>> >      >
>> >      > https://github.com/kunstmusik/test-project/issues
>> >      >
>> >      > My take on this would be to setup a similar test-project for
>> > Csound
>> >      > and do experiments with migrating tickets and the Git repo. The
>> > idea
>> >      > would be to use the test-project to tweak settings until they're
>> >      > acceptable, then delete the test-project and do a final migration
>> >     run.
>> >      >
>> >      > Also, for the csound.github.io  site,
>> >     it's currently being built using
>> >      > Pelican[1]. However, the site's HTML that is committed to the
>> > Github
>> >      > repo[2] for the site is the generated HTML, not the source, and
>> > would
>> >      > require regeneration and pushing as far as I understand (please
>> >      > correct me Joachim if I've gotten this wrong).  I think we should
>> >      > change to using Jekyll[3], which is supported by Github
>> >      > out-of-the-box[4]. There's also a tutorial I found at [5]. A good
>> >      > example of a site built with Jekyll and Bootstrap is the new
>> >     wxWidgets
>> >      > homepage[6]. It should allow us to do news posts as well as
>> > pages,
>> >      > which I think would be useful.
>> >      >
>> >      > steven
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > [1] - http://getpelican.com/
>> >      > [2] - https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io
>> >      > [3] - http://jekyllrb.com/
>> >      > [4] - https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages
>> >      > [5] - http://24ways.org/2013/get-started-with-github-pages/
>> >      > [6] - http://wxwidgets.org/
>> >      >
>> >      >
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