In what sense is 8.6 megabytes a lot these days? Do you have a dial-up 
connection or a 20 gigabyte hard disk?

I have no objection to somebody moving it, though.

Regards,
Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Akbari" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: [Cs-dev] CVS Organization Suggestion?


> Hi Developers,
>
> Upon doing repeated anonymous checkouts from CVS today to check various
> things, I noticed that there's a HUGE folder (8.6 megabytes!) called
> tutorial in the main source tree.
>
> While this is undoubtedly a very helpful component to have, I really
> would like to suggest that this folder be moved to its own branch of
> the CVS (just like "manual") so that the core application source code
> itself can be more easily and expediently obtained.
>
> At present time, the tutorial folder at 8.6 megabytes accounts for
> approximately 41% of the total space occupied by the csound5 source
> folder.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> -David
>
>
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Hi Mike,

Of course you are right, that 8.6 megabytes isn't a lot in the scope of  
things these days. However what I meant in my original post was that  
8.6 megabytes as a ratio to the 20.9 megabytes that currently make up  
the entire Csound source tree can be considered a lot, by volume.

This is definitely not to downplay the importance of the tutorial  
though! I, for one appreciate the effort that went into its creation  
and hope that other end users feel the same way. In fact, if it were  
moved to its own dedicated CVS module, I would like to integrate Mac OS  
9 and X support and documentation.

The reason I advocate moving the tutorial folder to its own Csound CVS  
module is precisely because of the usefulness it provides. I can only  
see this vital resource improving and it really needs more room to  
grow, without having to bog down a general Csound5 source tree  
checkout.

The idea is, that people who want only the Csound sources should be  
able to get them in the most streamlined way possible. The only reason  
I advocate omitting the valuable tutorial from this is so that it  
merely streamlines the focus of the 'csound5' module a bit more.

However, my suggestion to move the tutorial to an additional CVS module  
does NOT mean it should be omitted from the canonical distribution, I  
just think it would speed up downloading the sources, without having to  
also retrieve several 500+ kb images.



-David


On Oct 27, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:

> In what sense is 8.6 megabytes a lot these days? Do you have a dial-up
> connection or a 20 gigabyte hard disk?
>
> I have no objection to somebody moving it, though.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Akbari" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:20 PM
> Subject: [Cs-dev] CVS Organization Suggestion?
>
>
>> Hi Developers,
>>
>> Upon doing repeated anonymous checkouts from CVS today to check  
>> various
>> things, I noticed that there's a HUGE folder (8.6 megabytes!) called
>> tutorial in the main source tree.
>>
>> While this is undoubtedly a very helpful component to have, I really
>> would like to suggest that this folder be moved to its own branch of
>> the CVS (just like "manual") so that the core application source code
>> itself can be more easily and expediently obtained.
>>
>> At present time, the tutorial folder at 8.6 megabytes accounts for
>> approximately 41% of the total space occupied by the csound5 source
>> folder.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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>> security?
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i agree with david about this.  tutorials should be a package.   
documentation should be a package.

On Oct 27, 2006, at 10:06 PM, David Akbari wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Of course you are right, that 8.6 megabytes isn't a lot in the  
> scope of
> things these days. However what I meant in my original post was that
> 8.6 megabytes as a ratio to the 20.9 megabytes that currently make up
> the entire Csound source tree can be considered a lot, by volume.
>
> This is definitely not to downplay the importance of the tutorial
> though! I, for one appreciate the effort that went into its creation
> and hope that other end users feel the same way. In fact, if it were
> moved to its own dedicated CVS module, I would like to integrate  
> Mac OS
> 9 and X support and documentation.
>
> The reason I advocate moving the tutorial folder to its own Csound CVS
> module is precisely because of the usefulness it provides. I can only
> see this vital resource improving and it really needs more room to
> grow, without having to bog down a general Csound5 source tree
> checkout.
>
> The idea is, that people who want only the Csound sources should be
> able to get them in the most streamlined way possible. The only reason
> I advocate omitting the valuable tutorial from this is so that it
> merely streamlines the focus of the 'csound5' module a bit more.
>
> However, my suggestion to move the tutorial to an additional CVS  
> module
> does NOT mean it should be omitted from the canonical distribution, I
> just think it would speed up downloading the sources, without  
> having to
> also retrieve several 500+ kb images.
>
>
>
> -David
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:
>
>> In what sense is 8.6 megabytes a lot these days? Do you have a  
>> dial-up
>> connection or a 20 gigabyte hard disk?
>>
>> I have no objection to somebody moving it, though.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Akbari" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:20 PM
>> Subject: [Cs-dev] CVS Organization Suggestion?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Developers,
>>>
>>> Upon doing repeated anonymous checkouts from CVS today to check
>>> various
>>> things, I noticed that there's a HUGE folder (8.6 megabytes!) called
>>> tutorial in the main source tree.
>>>
>>> While this is undoubtedly a very helpful component to have, I really
>>> would like to suggest that this folder be moved to its own branch of
>>> the CVS (just like "manual") so that the core application source  
>>> code
>>> itself can be more easily and expediently obtained.
>>>
>>> At present time, the tutorial folder at 8.6 megabytes accounts for
>>> approximately 41% of the total space occupied by the csound5 source
>>> folder.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> --
>>> ---
>>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
>>> security?
>>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make  
>>> your job
>>> easier
>>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
>>> Geronimo
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>>
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