Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound

Date	2009-07-07 21:47
From	"Art Hunkins"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound
	Thanks, Mike. Please let me know how this develops. I'm really eager to get 5.10 working on SoaS. As it is, I gather, Csound is not available for use on SoaS, and only still works on the OLPC because they are at 5.08. I'm so much wanting 5.10 because it's the one that permits multiple MIDI controllers, and I've got to offer my Sugar activity either with or without this multiple. I'm betwixt and between currently, but since SoaS has already committed to 5.10 making Csound not work at all, I guess I'll just keep my patient hat on for a while. OTOH, do keep me appraised. I have joined the Sugar development list, and can perhaps help move things along on that side. Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gogins" To: "Art Hunkins" ; "Developer discussions" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound > He says SConstruct has a bug, which he has patched. I think he's > probably right, and I will patch SConstruct accordingly. > > The bug makes the installation not know the right name (soname) for > the csnd extension module shared library. > > Regards, > Mike > > On 7/6/09, Art Hunkins wrote: >> Victor and Mike G. (especially) - >> >> You're familiar with my problems getting Csound5.10 working on SoaS. >> >> Aleksey, one of the Sugar developers, sent me the "solution" (below) to >> this >> problem (a Scons issue apparently). >> >> I don't know what to do with it, and look to you for either >> implementation >> or explanation. >> >> I'm really interested to get 5.10 working with Sugar. >> >> Art Hunkins >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Aleksey Lim" >> To: "Art Hunkins" >> Cc: ; ; >> >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound >> >> >>> looks like its a SConstruct issue >>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2817271&group_id=81968&atid=564599 >>> >>> this patch fixed "import csnd" in my case >>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/csound-2817271-soname.patch >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 05:49:23PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote: >>>> As mentioned by a member of the sugar-devel list, it seems that a >>>> csound >>>> (5.10) install (yum install csound), does not install several crucial >>>> site-specific and library packages (csnd, _csnd, libcsnd and perhaps >>>> libcsound). >>>> >>>> Having to erase olpcsound before installing csound deletes these files >>>> and they don't get restored/reinstalled. >>>> >>>> So, to the procedures described below, before erasing olpcsound, I >>>> saved >>>> the above-listed files (there were 5 or 6), and once csound was >>>> installed, added them back where they came from. >>>> >>>> This crude procedure didn't work, and the following error log is quite >>>> like the one I started with: >>>> >>>> >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning: >>>> the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead >>>> >>>> import sha >>>> >>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>> >>>> File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in >>>> >>>> main.main() >>>> >>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line >>>> 105, >>>> >>>> in main >>>> >>>> module = __import__(module_name) >>>> >>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", line >>>> 41, >>>> in >>>> >>>> import csndsugui >>>> >>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", line >>>> 36, >>>> >>>> in >>>> >>>> import csnd >>>> >>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in >>>> >>>> import _csnd >>>> >>>> ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: >>>> csoundGetInputBuffer >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how to get this all working. >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Art Hunkins >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Art Hunkins >>>> To: pbrobinson@gmail.com >>>> Cc: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk ; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:57 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound >>>> >>>> >>>> I've just noted that the /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages folder does >>>> not include csnd.py. That folder also contains many fewer files that >>>> the >>>> corresponding one in python2.5. >>>> >>>> As a matter of fact, python2.5 seems about a third the size of 2.6. >>>> Is >>>> all this correct? >>>> >>>> Art Hunkins >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Art Hunkins >>>> To: pbrobinson@gmail.com >>>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:13 PM >>>> Subject: Fw: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, Peter, >>>> >>>> Do you know what may be happening here? (Please see error log >>>> below.) >>>> >>>> I've no idea why the module referenced (csd.py) is not found. >>>> Please >>>> also compare the log at the very bottom of this mail; this latter log >>>> was >>>> >>>> generated when running Csound5.08, also with python2.6. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any insights. >>>> >>>> Art Hunkins >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Art Hunkins >>>> To: Developer discussions >>>> Cc: csound@lists.bath.ac.uk >>>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound >>>> >>>> >>>> Here's the next chapter in the saga. Please note that this is not >>>> the Windows installation saga; it's the Linux/Sugar installation >>>> saga. >>>> >>>> In our last episode, we noted that Csound5.08 was (apparently?) >>>> incompatible with python2.6. At least this seemed a plausible >>>> explanation >>>> >>>> from the error log we saw. >>>> >>>> So, now Csound5.10 is available on Fedora(11) for download to SoaS. >>>> >>>> First, I try update csound; "can't find any csound". >>>> Second, install csound; it tries, but then says, "can't because it >>>> interferes with olpcsound" (OK, different name!) >>>> Third, erase olpcsound; good >>>> Fourth, install csound; good >>>> >>>> Then I run my Activity; it now crashes with the similar, but not >>>> exact, error log below. >>>> >>>> I thought perhaps I'd better start from scratch and did (reformat >>>> USB >>>> >>>> drive, etc). Thought probably the new SoaS iso incorporated Csound5.10. >>>> But no, I needed to essentially repeat the above steps, and ended with >>>> the same crash. >>>> >>>> The log: (any new ideas please?) >>>> >>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: >>>> DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib >>>> module >>>> instead >>>> >>>> import sha >>>> >>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>> >>>> File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in >>>> >>>> main.main() >>>> >>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", >>>> line >>>> 105, in main >>>> >>>> module = __import__(module_name) >>>> >>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", >>>> line >>>> 41, in >>>> >>>> import csndsugui >>>> >>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", >>>> line >>>> >>>> 36, in >>>> >>>> import csnd >>>> >>>> ImportError: No module named csnd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Art Hunkins >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: victor >>>> To: Art Hunkins ; Developer discussions >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound >>>> >>>> >>>> Because the 5.10 rpm has a python2.6 dependency. But that might >>>> be the case for 5.08 too (I am not sure). >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Art Hunkins >>>> To: Developer discussions >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:22 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound >>>> >>>> >>>> I just noticed that the current OLPC build includes Python 2.5, >>>> whereas SoaS includes Python 2.6 >>>> >>>> Csound 5.08.91 is currently in both. Wouldn't this explain why >>>> 5.08.91 doesn't work on SoaS? And why 5.10 should? >>>> >>>> Art Hunkins >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie >>>> To: Developer discussions >>>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:38 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound >>>> >>>> >>>> The message is strange, but it does not say there is a Python >>>> version mismatch. However, having said that, the 5.08.91 >>>> rpm was built with 2.5 (unless what you have there is another >>>> build that somehow uses 2.6). >>>> >>>> What the message says is that the library module Python >>>> tried to load does not have one of the API functions. The >>>> reason for this I don't know. >>>> >>>> Victor >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Art Hunkins >>>> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound >>>> To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> >>>> > Victor, Brian and Mike G. - >>>> > >>>> > I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it >>>> > suggests about >>>> > the crash of my OurMusic activity. >>>> > >>>> > The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And >>>> as >>>> > you can see >>>> > Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log. >>>> > >>>> > Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or >>>> > libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1? >>>> > >>>> > A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem >>>> > might well be >>>> > solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available >>>> > through yum >>>> > update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What >>>> do >>>> > you imagine? >>>> > >>>> > The log: >>>> > >>>> > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: >>>> > DeprecationWarning: the >>>> > sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead >>>> > >>>> > import sha >>>> > >>>> > Traceback (most recent call last): >>>> > >>>> > File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in >>>> > >>>> > main.main() >>>> > >>>> > File >>>> "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", >>>> > line 105, in >>>> > main >>>> > >>>> > module = __import__(module_name) >>>> > >>>> > File >>>> "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", >>>> > line 41, in >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > import csndsugui >>>> > >>>> > File >>>> "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", >>>> > line 36, in >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > import csnd >>>> > >>>> > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in >>>> > >>>> > import _csnd >>>> > >>>> > ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: >>>> > csoundGetInputBuffer >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Thanks - >>>> > >>>> > Art Hunkins >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > ------------- >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Csound-devel mailing list >>>> > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>> >>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, >>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aleksey >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >> This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! 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