I have been loaned a PowerMac and am working on a port of CsoundVST to Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.3), since some people have expressed interest in using CsoundVST on the Mac. No idea how easy this is -- I'm still trying to get a usable version of FLTK going, so I'm still working my way through installing usable versions of the pre-requisites. Since VST plugins are common on the Mac, presumably once I have the pre-requisites, it will not be hard. However, my plans are not really oriented towards more than just getting CsoundVST to work.

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Istvan Varga 
Sent: Jul 28, 2005 8:49 AM
To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Re: [Csnd] Csound 5 status (was Re: [Csnd] linux version of csound 5)

jpff@codemist.co.uk wrote:

> I tried to ask that self-same question some month or so ago.  What is
> needed to get to a sensible milestone?

As I already mentioned, one important issue is getting the API
finished enough that there is a stable interface for hosts and
plugins (of course, backward compatible extensions can be added
later); I am very interested in opinions on this by people like
Michael Gogins or Matt Ingalls, but so far I did not get much
response. Other than that, we need to get a reasonably stable
and working package - it does not need to be perfect, but should
be good enough so that the overall quality is not worse than
that of Csound 4.

> Last time I tried the audio on OSX just did not work, but the

Did you try both the latest PortAudio driver, and Victor Lazzarini's
rtcoreaudio.c ?

> impression i have is that the linux system is almost finished.

So, what should be done to get it not just almost, but really finished ?

 > I have not managed to run Csound5 on Windows as i cannot get mingw
 > to behave reasonably.

I have compiled for Windows, and was able to get working und usable
real time audio (using native MME interface, as well as DirectSound
and ASIO through PortAudio; full-duplex audio works too) and MIDI.
FLTK widgets are generally OK,

> Questions to which i would like the answer include:
>           Does OSC run on Windows?

Not tested, but this is mainly a function of getting liblo compile
and work on Windows.

>           If we do not replace the parser is anyone going to fix the
>           main lexing bugs?

I may try fixing some, but what bugs are there that should be fixed
now ? Which one is the most serious ?

>           Do we have sufficient sane installers?  We (the company)
>           sell software on Linux for multiple distributions, and while
>           a pain it is doable -- we compile multiple .o files and
>           install includes linking.

There is a Windows installer by Michael Gogins. For now, the standard
way of installing Csound 5 on Linux is compiling from sources, but I am
interested in ideas about how precompiled Linux packages should be made.
No info on OS X, but the main problem here is that there are no Csound 5
contributions from Mac developers like Matt Ingalls, which is really a shame.


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It would be cool if you look into the vsthost opcodes as well. I tried
building them once, but the compiler complained (said something like
there was a bug in the compiler).

Cheers,
Andres
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 08:53, Michael Gogins wrote:
> I have been loaned a PowerMac and am working on a port of CsoundVST to Jaguar (Mac OS X 10.3), since some people have expressed interest in using CsoundVST on the Mac. No idea how easy this is -- I'm still trying to get a usable version of FLTK going, so I'm still working my way through installing usable versions of the pre-requisites. Since VST plugins are common on the Mac, presumably once I have the pre-requisites, it will not be hard. However, my plans are not really oriented towards more than just getting CsoundVST to work.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Istvan Varga 
> Sent: Jul 28, 2005 8:49 AM
> To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Re: [Csnd] Csound 5 status (was Re: [Csnd] linux version of csound 5)
> 
> jpff@codemist.co.uk wrote:
> 
> > I tried to ask that self-same question some month or so ago.  What is
> > needed to get to a sensible milestone?
> 
> As I already mentioned, one important issue is getting the API
> finished enough that there is a stable interface for hosts and
> plugins (of course, backward compatible extensions can be added
> later); I am very interested in opinions on this by people like
> Michael Gogins or Matt Ingalls, but so far I did not get much
> response. Other than that, we need to get a reasonably stable
> and working package - it does not need to be perfect, but should
> be good enough so that the overall quality is not worse than
> that of Csound 4.
> 
> > Last time I tried the audio on OSX just did not work, but the
> 
> Did you try both the latest PortAudio driver, and Victor Lazzarini's
> rtcoreaudio.c ?
> 
> > impression i have is that the linux system is almost finished.
> 
> So, what should be done to get it not just almost, but really finished ?
> 
>  > I have not managed to run Csound5 on Windows as i cannot get mingw
>  > to behave reasonably.
> 
> I have compiled for Windows, and was able to get working und usable
> real time audio (using native MME interface, as well as DirectSound
> and ASIO through PortAudio; full-duplex audio works too) and MIDI.
> FLTK widgets are generally OK,
> 
> > Questions to which i would like the answer include:
> >           Does OSC run on Windows?
> 
> Not tested, but this is mainly a function of getting liblo compile
> and work on Windows.
> 
> >           If we do not replace the parser is anyone going to fix the
> >           main lexing bugs?
> 
> I may try fixing some, but what bugs are there that should be fixed
> now ? Which one is the most serious ?
> 
> >           Do we have sufficient sane installers?  We (the company)
> >           sell software on Linux for multiple distributions, and while
> >           a pain it is doable -- we compile multiple .o files and
> >           install includes linking.
> 
> There is a Windows installer by Michael Gogins. For now, the standard
> way of installing Csound 5 on Linux is compiling from sources, but I am
> interested in ideas about how precompiled Linux packages should be made.
> No info on OS X, but the main problem here is that there are no Csound 5
> contributions from Mac developers like Matt Ingalls, which is really a shame.
> 
> 
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