That's good news. I thought Barry wasn't sure of
what we would be able to have, including FLTK.

>
> FLTK will NOT be locked out of OLPC.
>
> It is small and close to the machine - AND - it is part of
> Csound5.
>
> Plus, there are many Csound demos built with it.  It is
> easy to work with and rather popular with the Csound
> community.
>
> Also,  I will be happy to get a linux laptop happening
> too. In fact, I will have a couple of OLPC linux machines
> very soon.
>
> -dB
>
> On Oct 27, 2006, at 7:21 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>
> > I was thinking in the same lines. If FLTK eventually
> > gets kicked out of OLPC, we'll all have to go python
> > and GTK... solo. Then testing on the Mac will be very
> > limited.
> >
> > You'll might need to get yourself and old laptop to
> > run linux... like the rest of us :)
> >
> > Jean actually went through a couple of them
> > and a few 'install parties' to get it running (I was
> > there and saw it..), but he seems to be happy now.
> >
> > Victor
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> Aren't you doing your tests on a Linux machine? You'd
> be >> saving yourself a lot of headaches since OLPC runs
> Fedora >> and all graphics will be GTK. Remember that
> Csound on OLPC >> is set up to run as a python based
> server. Our keyboard is >> python and fully configurable.
> It makes no sense to >> interface with it from a different
> toolkit. I will >> strongly argue that csound on the OLPC
> should be stripped >> down to the max, meaning no fltk and
> hardly any plugins. >> The machine is tiny.
> >>
> >> Unofrtunately, GTK does not run on OSX (well.. it sort
> of >> runs but its complicated to setup)
> >>
> >> Has the beta-1 release been pushed back? If so, we may
> be >> able to package it so you can use it on this
> release. >>
> >> j
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Message d'origine--------
> >> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la
> part >> de Dr. Richard Boulanger Date: ven. 27/10/2006
> 16:07 >> À: Developer discussions
> >> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE :  RE :  FLTK Virtual Keyboard
> >> Midi Driver
> >>
> >> I would love your help getting it to run with your
> >> universal   orchestra on my mac - for testing,
> >> and then on the OLPC machine - to include with some
> >> samples  - with   this release if you would
> >> like to assist.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Piché Jean wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> actually.. you dont.
> >>> The keyboard we have runs independently of TamTam.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -------- Message d'origine--------
> >>> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la
> >>> part de Dr.   Richard Boulanger
> >>> Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:53
> >>> À: Developer discussions
> >>> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE :  FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi
> >> Driver >
> >>> We need both for OLPC.
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Piché Jean wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe I am missing something here. We have a
> perfectly >> functioning >> ASCII keyboard, fully mapped
> to the >> universal.csd that will be used >> on the OLPC
> for TamTam. >> The sources are available and it even has a
> >> cute little >> interface for choosing instruments.
> Aren't we working >> >> at cross-purposes here? I really
> dont understand why its >> necessary >> to fight with FLTK
> if the idea is to have >> something working on the >>
> OLPC.. we already have it... >>>>
> >>>> j
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------- Message d'origine--------
> >>>> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la
> >> part de Dr. >> Richard Boulanger
> >>>> Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:43
> >>>> À: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie; Developer discussions
> >>>> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi
> Driver >>>>
> >>>> I agree that it would be wonderful to play the
> keyboard >> from the >> ascii keyboard as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> -dB
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, while you are at it.  Can you make the keyboard
> >> called by >> default if an actual hardware device is
> not >> found? >>
> >>>> -M0  - no device found - means to substiture
> >> -+rtmidi=virtual >>
> >>>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any
> other >>>>> FLTK window, graph or widgets together.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard
> >>>>> so that we can play from the computer keyboard?
> >>>>> It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Victor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but
> >> only >>>> when running a project where FLTK widgets are
> >> *not* there >>>> on Linux.  So FLTK is funny all
> around! >> :P >>>>
> >>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
> >>  >>>>> wrote: I only tested
> with >> an instrument that used fltk >>>>> widgets. The
> >> interaction between the two seems to >>>>> be the
> problem. >> But Dr. B seems to get it to run, >>>>> I
> presume without >> using widgets. >>>>>
> >>>>>>> FLTK is funny on OSX.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> However, linux is very good: both widgets and
> >> keyboard >>>>> work impeccably.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Victor,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for your feedback!  I've been racking by
> >> brain >>>>>> trying to debug this thing to make it run
> >> reliably but >>>>>> have to say that I'm not all that
> >> versed in FLTK as >>>>>> well as C calling C++ code, so
> >> any help in those >>>>>> regards from anyone would be
> very >> much appreciated. >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I
> haven't >>>>>>>> figured out what in the code is causing
> that, as to >> me >>>>>> the code looks like it's doing
> the right thing. >> The >>>>>> keyboard itself only
> records the note-on when >> it turns >>>>>> on as well as
> note-offs, and the MIDI >> driver part >>>>>> reads and
> clears back to zero after >> using it.  Perhaps >>>>>>
> there's a threading issue >> somewhere though, I'll keep
> >>>>> looking. > >>>>>>>> As for unstable, could you
> describe it a bit?  Is >> it >>>>>> window redrawing
> issues, notes not playing? >> (Any info >>>>>> here would
> help to diagnose what's going >> on). >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I was also running this with valgrind and it
> seems >>>>>>>> there is a memory leak somewhere, but for
> the life >> of >>>>>> me I can't see where it'd possibly
> leak memory. >> It >>>>>> reports something going on in
> sensMIDI and the >> midi >>>>>> reading function, but even
> with everything >> compiled to >>>>>> debug it has ????'s
> in the stack trace >> it gives, so >>>>>> it's been very
> hard for me to find. >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks though for your time to check it out!
> I'll >>>>>>>> keep on with it to see if I can make any
> more >>>>>>> progress. >
> >>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
> >>>>>>>>>  wrote: actually I got
> >> it >>>>>>> working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a
> little >>>>>>>> unstable. >
> >>>>>>>>> At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> working here on Linux. But some of the lower
> >> notes >>>>>>> seem to >be hanging (might be my own
> >> isntrument >>>>>>> though) >
> >>>>>>>>>> At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I've just checked in a project I was working
> on >>>>>>>>>> which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi
> driver. >>>>>>>>>> It's written as a plugin midi driver
> >and if you >>>>>>>>>> run csound using: >
> >>>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop
> >> up >>>>>>>> that looks like a >piano keyboard.  Using
> the >>>>>>>>>> keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up
> >will >>>>>>>>>> fire off MIDI notes.  This should be
> useful in >>>>>>>> situations where >you don't have a real
> MIDI device >>>>>>>>>> available (testing an orch, when
> >you're on the >>>>>>>>>> road, etc.) >
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if others here can update
> from >>>>>>>>>> CVS and give it a >try.  There is one bug
> in >>>>>>>>>> particular which I have been having a hard
> >time >>>>>>>>>> diagnosing.  It seems that if you run the
> >> keyboard >>>>>> either with >--displays or not and the
> CSD >> has no FLTK >>>>>>>> widgets, the keyboard window
> >will >> eat up CPU (on >>>>>>>> Linux here, the xorg
> process takes >> up a lot of >>>>>>>>> it).   Any help
> with that would be >> greatly >>>>>>>> appreciated. >
> >Also, I haven't had a >> chance to >>>>>>>> run on OSX or
> Windows myself, so any >>> reports on >>>>>>>> that would
> be great. > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>> steven
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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It is true that he is not sure - but he does like the current demos.
And the system is working well.  So we'll see.
There is no guarantee.  But...  I will fight to keep it in.
it is definitely in for now.

On Oct 28, 2006, at 4:23 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> That's good news. I thought Barry wasn't sure of
> what we would be able to have, including FLTK.
>
>>
>> FLTK will NOT be locked out of OLPC.
>>
>> It is small and close to the machine - AND - it is part of
>> Csound5.
>>
>> Plus, there are many Csound demos built with it.  It is
>> easy to work with and rather popular with the Csound
>> community.
>>
>> Also,  I will be happy to get a linux laptop happening
>> too. In fact, I will have a couple of OLPC linux machines
>> very soon.
>>
>> -dB
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 7:21 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>>> I was thinking in the same lines. If FLTK eventually
>>> gets kicked out of OLPC, we'll all have to go python
>>> and GTK... solo. Then testing on the Mac will be very
>>> limited.
>>>
>>> You'll might need to get yourself and old laptop to
>>> run linux... like the rest of us :)
>>>
>>> Jean actually went through a couple of them
>>> and a few 'install parties' to get it running (I was
>>> there and saw it..), but he seems to be happy now.
>>>
>>> Victor
>>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>> Aren't you doing your tests on a Linux machine? You'd
>> be >> saving yourself a lot of headaches since OLPC runs
>> Fedora >> and all graphics will be GTK. Remember that
>> Csound on OLPC >> is set up to run as a python based
>> server. Our keyboard is >> python and fully configurable.
>> It makes no sense to >> interface with it from a different
>> toolkit. I will >> strongly argue that csound on the OLPC
>> should be stripped >> down to the max, meaning no fltk and
>> hardly any plugins. >> The machine is tiny.
>>>>
>>>> Unofrtunately, GTK does not run on OSX (well.. it sort
>> of >> runs but its complicated to setup)
>>>>
>>>> Has the beta-1 release been pushed back? If so, we may
>> be >> able to package it so you can use it on this
>> release. >>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Message d'origine--------
>>>> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la
>> part >> de Dr. Richard Boulanger Date: ven. 27/10/2006
>> 16:07 >> À: Developer discussions
>>>> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE :  RE :  FLTK Virtual Keyboard
>>>> Midi Driver
>>>>
>>>> I would love your help getting it to run with your
>>>> universal   orchestra on my mac - for testing,
>>>> and then on the OLPC machine - to include with some
>>>> samples  - with   this release if you would
>>>> like to assist.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Piché Jean wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> actually.. you dont.
>>>>> The keyboard we have runs independently of TamTam.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Message d'origine--------
>>>>> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la
>>>>> part de Dr.   Richard Boulanger
>>>>> Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:53
>>>>> À: Developer discussions
>>>>> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE :  FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi
>>>> Driver >
>>>>> We need both for OLPC.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Piché Jean wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I am missing something here. We have a
>> perfectly >> functioning >> ASCII keyboard, fully mapped
>> to the >> universal.csd that will be used >> on the OLPC
>> for TamTam. >> The sources are available and it even has a
>>>> cute little >> interface for choosing instruments.
>> Aren't we working >> >> at cross-purposes here? I really
>> dont understand why its >> necessary >> to fight with FLTK
>> if the idea is to have >> something working on the >>
>> OLPC.. we already have it... >>>>
>>>>>> j
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Message d'origine--------
>>>>>> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la
>>>> part de Dr. >> Richard Boulanger
>>>>>> Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:43
>>>>>> À: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie; Developer discussions
>>>>>> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi
>> Driver >>>>
>>>>>> I agree that it would be wonderful to play the
>> keyboard >> from the >> ascii keyboard as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -dB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, while you are at it.  Can you make the keyboard
>>>> called by >> default if an actual hardware device is
>> not >> found? >>
>>>>>> -M0  - no device found - means to substiture
>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual >>
>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any
>> other >>>>> FLTK window, graph or widgets together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard
>>>>>>> so that we can play from the computer keyboard?
>>>>>>> It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but
>>>> only >>>> when running a project where FLTK widgets are
>>>> *not* there >>>> on Linux.  So FLTK is funny all
>> around! >> :P >>>>
>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>  >>>>> wrote: I only tested
>> with >> an instrument that used fltk >>>>> widgets. The
>>>> interaction between the two seems to >>>>> be the
>> problem. >> But Dr. B seems to get it to run, >>>>> I
>> presume without >> using widgets. >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FLTK is funny on OSX.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, linux is very good: both widgets and
>>>> keyboard >>>>> work impeccably.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your feedback!  I've been racking by
>>>> brain >>>>>> trying to debug this thing to make it run
>>>> reliably but >>>>>> have to say that I'm not all that
>>>> versed in FLTK as >>>>>> well as C calling C++ code, so
>>>> any help in those >>>>>> regards from anyone would be
>> very >> much appreciated. >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I
>> haven't >>>>>>>> figured out what in the code is causing
>> that, as to >> me >>>>>> the code looks like it's doing
>> the right thing. >> The >>>>>> keyboard itself only
>> records the note-on when >> it turns >>>>>> on as well as
>> note-offs, and the MIDI >> driver part >>>>>> reads and
>> clears back to zero after >> using it.  Perhaps >>>>>>
>> there's a threading issue >> somewhere though, I'll keep
>>>>>>> looking. > >>>>>>>> As for unstable, could you
>> describe it a bit?  Is >> it >>>>>> window redrawing
>> issues, notes not playing? >> (Any info >>>>>> here would
>> help to diagnose what's going >> on). >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was also running this with valgrind and it
>> seems >>>>>>>> there is a memory leak somewhere, but for
>> the life >> of >>>>>> me I can't see where it'd possibly
>> leak memory. >> It >>>>>> reports something going on in
>> sensMIDI and the >> midi >>>>>> reading function, but even
>> with everything >> compiled to >>>>>> debug it has ????'s
>> in the stack trace >> it gives, so >>>>>> it's been very
>> hard for me to find. >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks though for your time to check it out!
>> I'll >>>>>>>> keep on with it to see if I can make any
>> more >>>>>>> progress. >
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: actually I got
>>>> it >>>>>>> working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a
>> little >>>>>>>> unstable. >
>>>>>>>>>>> At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> working here on Linux. But some of the lower
>>>> notes >>>>>>> seem to >be hanging (might be my own
>>>> isntrument >>>>>>> though) >
>>>>>>>>>>>> At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just checked in a project I was working
>> on >>>>>>>>>> which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi
>> driver. >>>>>>>>>> It's written as a plugin midi driver
>>> and if you >>>>>>>>>> run csound using: >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop
>>>> up >>>>>>>> that looks like a >piano keyboard.  Using
>> the >>>>>>>>>> keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up
>>> will >>>>>>>>>> fire off MIDI notes.  This should be
>> useful in >>>>>>>> situations where >you don't have a real
>> MIDI device >>>>>>>>>> available (testing an orch, when
>>> you're on the >>>>>>>>>> road, etc.) >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if others here can update
>> from >>>>>>>>>> CVS and give it a >try.  There is one bug
>> in >>>>>>>>>> particular which I have been having a hard
>>> time >>>>>>>>>> diagnosing.  It seems that if you run the
>>>> keyboard >>>>>> either with >--displays or not and the
>> CSD >> has no FLTK >>>>>>>> widgets, the keyboard window
>>> will >> eat up CPU (on >>>>>>>> Linux here, the xorg
>> process takes >> up a lot of >>>>>>>>> it).   Any help
>> with that would be >> greatly >>>>>>>> appreciated. >
>>> Also, I haven't had a >> chance to >>>>>>>> run on OSX or
>> Windows myself, so any >>> reports on >>>>>>>> that would
>> be great. > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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