All redistributable Windows dlls including msvcr80.dll can be obtained with a simple Google.

For example: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr80

The depends tool says portaudio_x86.dll is OK with msvcr80.dll in the Csound bin directory, but fluidsynth.dll does not seem to be OK, it prefers the msvcr80.dll that is in Windows/WinSxS and which would require additional steps to install.

I am still working on this.

Regards,
Mike



-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Yi 
>Sent: Nov 7, 2007 11:46 PM
>To: Developer discussions 
>Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] OSC on Windows float installers
>
>That sounds like really good news then if we can just drop msvcr80.dll
>in a directory.  Maybe you could put a copy of it somewhere for others
>who have had problems with 5.07 like Tim to download and try putting
>in their csound/bin directory to see if that will alleviate their
>problem?  (If you want to send me a copy via email, I can post it on
>my site for others to download and try).
>
>steven
>
>
>On Nov 7, 2007 7:21 PM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>> Thanks for the explanation. For some reason I rarely have FTP failures and
>> the other steps seem routine.
>>
>> The advantage, for me, is that when this is done there is never any doubt or
>> ambiguity about where to go or what is what.
>>
>> By the way, I think that we can simply drop msvc80.dll into the Csound bin
>> directory. It now looks like the manifest business only applies to programs,
>> not DLLs. I am using the Microsoft "depend" tool to verify that the DLL is
>> being loaded from this location for rtpa.dll and fluidsynth.dll. I will
>> upload new point releases as soon as I have verified this. It is only
>> portaudio_x86.dll and fluidsynth.dll that are being built with Visual C++ at
>> this time.
>>
>> This all happened because I applied Service Pack 1 to my Visual C++ Express
>> Edition to be sure I had the latest version, and I did not understand that
>> this brought in the manifest files, msvcr80.dll, etc., because of course
>> Service Pack 1 put msvcr80.dll und so weiter into the WinSxS directory where
>> they just worked for me.
>>
>> Best,
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven Yi" 
>>
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] OSC on Windows float installers
>>
>>
>> > Well, for me, from all the releases I've done with blue, I always find
>> > myself anxious when doing releases with SF as the FTP system has been
>> > telling me the upload failed even though it didn't, plus having to
>> > upload, then go in and select all the files to add the release, then
>> > going to mark them for file types is much more work than uploading to
>> > an FTP and saying "here they are!".
>> >
>> > On Nov 7, 2007 6:08 PM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>> >> What do you mean about the file release system being hard to use? All we
>> >> have to do is add "BETA" to the filename. I find this is a very easy
>> >> system
>> >> to use.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Steven Yi" 
>> >> To: "Michael Gogins" ; "Developer discussions"
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:10 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] OSC on Windows float installers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hopefully that will work, if not, is there a technical reason that you
>> >> > switched to VC++ versus staying with MinGW?  Or are there any
>> >> > objections to building for release using MinGW?
>> >> >
>> >> > Taking into account Dr. B's email regarding Seoul and missing .dll's,
>> >> > I am thinking as a post mortem to this whole 5.07 experience that we
>> >> > might want to invest in doing at least one public beta build versus
>> >> > going straight to release and to try to catch problems with that.  I
>> >> > think it would help make expectations be what they should plus it
>> >> > would give us time to fix any issues for a "release" quality build. I
>> >> > think there are users in our community who would be willing to try out
>> >> > betas and give feedback.
>> >> >
>> >> > For a new release, I think we should do one as soon as possible as
>> >> > Victor has fixed diskin and I think we can probably research and fix
>> >> > turnoff2 and those affect everyone.  For the windows build, I can
>> >> > install NSIS and will try to get involved with building and testing
>> >> > that (will have to wait until after tomorrow though!).
>> >> >
>> >> > For the betas, we can use sourceforge but as we all know who have used
>> >> > the file release system that it is not very easy to use.  It might be
>> >> > worth creating an ftp site just for downloading betas.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thoughts anyone?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> > steven
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Nov 7, 2007 10:07 AM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>> >> >> It's not that simple... VC++ binaries now always have a manifest, and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> CRT in the manifest must be where and what version the manifest says.
>> >> >> Just including msvcr80.dll in the installer and putting it where the
>> >> >> manifest says should would do the job, and I will indeed try that. But
>> >> >> I'm not sure this is the best solution; Windows in general wants to
>> >> >> find
>> >> >> these libraries in WinSxS, which is where the redistributable
>> >> >> installer
>> >> >> puts them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Mike
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >From: Steven Yi 
>> >> >> >Sent: Nov 7, 2007 11:35 AM
>> >> >> >To: Developer discussions 
>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] OSC on Windows float installers
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Is it the game plan to package the msvcrt80.dll with Csound so that
>> >> >> >users won't need to download separately?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Nov 7, 2007 5:24 AM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>> >> >> >> This is not my doing, it is Microsoft's. I expect this to be a
>> >> >> >> permanent
>> >> >> >> situation. Microsoft's reasoning is that they need to tie binaries
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> specific versions of libraries for stability and security reasons,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> is how they chose to do it. The same problems do indeed exist on
>> >> >> >> Linux, but
>> >> >> >> the Linux solution is qualified sonames, e.g. csound32.so.5.1 or
>> >> >> >> csound32.so.5.0. I guess this was too simple and Linux-like for
>> >> >> >> Microsoft to
>> >> >> >> copy.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sorry.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >> Mike
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> From: "Tim Mortimer" 
>> >> >> >> To: 
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:45 AM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] OSC on Windows float installers
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > My XP installation is Service Pack 1
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 1) do i still need to do this?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 2) the link to the microsoft download Visual C++ site (i.e. your
>> >> >> >> > link
>> >> >> >> > Mike)
>> >> >> >> > says
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 3;
>> >> >> >> > Windows
>> >> >> >> > 98;
>> >> >> >> > Windows 98 Second Edition; Windows ME; Windows Server 2003;
>> >> >> >> > Windows
>> >> >> >> > XP
>> >> >> >> > Service Pack 2"
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > if 1) == "yes" then i guess this means i'd better find a service
>> >> >> >> > pack 2
>> >> >> >> > update - just so i can continue to run Csound? (my music PC was
>> >> >> >> > not,
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > not,
>> >> >> >> > & never will be online...)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I don't like to be picky, but i am starting to get a hunch that
>> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> > an "ideal" solution....
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > An avid watcher of this thread (who understands little other than
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > has
>> >> >> >> > some potentially major implications beyond my level of expertise
>> >> >> >> > &
>> >> >> >> > understanding) awaits further input & developments....
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Michael Gogins wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I have discovered the cause of these problems with rtpa.dll and
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> Fluid
>> >> >> >> >> opcodes.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In Csound 5.07's Windows installers, I built the PortAudio DLL
>> >> >> >> >> (used by
>> >> >> >> >> rtpa.dll) and the FluidSynth DLL (used by fluidOpcodes.dll)
>> >> >> >> >> using
>> >> >> >> >> Microsoft
>> >> >> >> >> Visual C++ Express Edition, Service Pack 1, instead of with
>> >> >> >> >> MSYS/MinGW or
>> >> >> >> >> MSVC++ Express Edition before the service pack, as I used to do.
>> >> >> >> >> The
>> >> >> >> >> result
>> >> >> >> >> is a more complete, up to date, and probably faster build.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> However, with Service Pack 1, Visual C++ creates a "manifest"
>> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> >> applications and DLLs that tightly ties the binary with a
>> >> >> >> >> specific
>> >> >> >> >> version
>> >> >> >> >> of the Microsoft C runtime library (msvcr80.dll, in this case).
>> >> >> >> >> This DLL
>> >> >> >> >> has
>> >> >> >> >> to be just exactly the right version (specified in the manifest)
>> >> >> >> >> and it
>> >> >> >> >> has
>> >> >> >> >> to be installed in the just right location (also specified in
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> manifest).
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> The best way for you and other users to resolve these issues is
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> download
>> >> >> >> >> and run the following installer, which installs the required
>> >> >> >> >> runtime
>> >> >> >> >> library
>> >> >> >> >> and other DLLs as "side by side" assemblies in the Windows
>> >> >> >> >> directory:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=32BC1BEE-A3F9-4C13-9C99-220B62A191EE&displaylang=en
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I recommend that you do this, and please let us all know if it
>> >> >> >> >> works!
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Alternatively, you could try to download msvcr80.dll from
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr80 and
>> >> >> >> >> copy
>> >> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> >> into
>> >> >> >> >> your Csound bin directory as a "private assembly". The manifest
>> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> portaudio_x86.dll is:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> manifestVersion='1.0'>
>> >> >> >> >>   
>> >> >> >> >>     
>> >> >> >> >>       > >> >> >> >> version='8.0.50608.0' processorArchitecture='x86'
>> >> >> >> >> publicKeyToken='1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b' />
>> >> >> >> >>     
>> >> >> >> >>   
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> So, I think if you ended up with this it should work:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> csound/bin/Microsoft.VC80.CRT/msvcr80.dll
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I will attempt to put msvcr80.dll into the installer in the
>> >> >> >> >> correct
>> >> >> >> >> directory as a private assembly. If that does not work, I will
>> >> >> >> >> include
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> redistributable installer in the Csound installer.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hope this helps,
>> >> >> >> >> Mike
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
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>> >> >> >> > http://www.nabble.com/OSC-on-Windows-float-installers-tf4762094.html#a13623974
>> >> >> >> > Sent from the Csound - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >> >> >> >
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