is it possible that we provide some sub-folders in the main csound 
download folder?

currently there are 14 files in 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.02/ , and i 
think it is not easy for beginners to know which file to download (i 
experienced this with some of my students).

i'd suggest this structure:

* Android
   -> csound6.apk
   -> Csound-android-6.02.0.zip
* Browser (or Chrome? how to call this?)
   -> Csound-PNaCl-6.02.zip
* iOS
   -> csound-iOS-6.02.0.1.zip
* Linux
   -> Debian_amd64.tgz
* Mac
   -> Csound6.02-OSX10.6
   -> Csound6.02-OSX10.9
* Manual
   -> manual.src.tar.gz
* MaxMSP
   -> csound~_1.1.1.pkg
* Sources
   -> Csound6.02.zip
   -> Csound6.02.tar.gz
* Windows
   -> Setup_Csound6_6.02.0.exe

in addition, outside these folders the release notes, and if possible a 
short ReadMe which should very briefly explain what the different 
versions are intended to do (for instance: csound6.apk is the app, but 
Csound-android-6.02.0.zip are the android sources).

what do others think? if something like this is a consensus, i'd be 
willing to put some work in it.

best -

	joachim

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Hi Joachim,

I like the idea to clarify the downloads.  My own preference is to
have all of the downloads in a single folder though, sheerly out of
convenience.  Sourceforge does have the ability to have a README per
download folder that gets shown automatically if you go to the folder:

https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Files-Readme/

If that README is shown that describes all of the downloads and has
the ChangeLog, would that be enough you think?

steven

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, joachim heintz  wrote:
> is it possible that we provide some sub-folders in the main csound
> download folder?
>
> currently there are 14 files in
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.02/ , and i
> think it is not easy for beginners to know which file to download (i
> experienced this with some of my students).
>
> i'd suggest this structure:
>
> * Android
>    -> csound6.apk
>    -> Csound-android-6.02.0.zip
> * Browser (or Chrome? how to call this?)
>    -> Csound-PNaCl-6.02.zip
> * iOS
>    -> csound-iOS-6.02.0.1.zip
> * Linux
>    -> Debian_amd64.tgz
> * Mac
>    -> Csound6.02-OSX10.6
>    -> Csound6.02-OSX10.9
> * Manual
>    -> manual.src.tar.gz
> * MaxMSP
>    -> csound~_1.1.1.pkg
> * Sources
>    -> Csound6.02.zip
>    -> Csound6.02.tar.gz
> * Windows
>    -> Setup_Csound6_6.02.0.exe
>
> in addition, outside these folders the release notes, and if possible a
> short ReadMe which should very briefly explain what the different
> versions are intended to do (for instance: csound6.apk is the app, but
> Csound-android-6.02.0.zip are the android sources).
>
> what do others think? if something like this is a consensus, i'd be
> willing to put some work in it.
>
> best -
>
>         joachim
>
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hi steven -

yes, this sounds like a good improvement.

if in a single folder, perhaps we can have some unification in the file 
names? i'd suggest:
csound-OS-VERSION#

so, for instance:
csound-Debian64-6.02.tgz (instead of Debian_amd64.tgz)
csound-OSX10.9-6.02 (instead of Csound6.02-OSX10.9)
csound-Windows-6.02.exe (instead of  Setup_Csound6_6.02.0.exe)

i'd personally prefer to seperate the README from the release notes, but 
this is not a huge difference.

best -

	joachim



Am 25.02.2014 17:53, schrieb Steven Yi:
> Hi Joachim,
>
> I like the idea to clarify the downloads.  My own preference is to
> have all of the downloads in a single folder though, sheerly out of
> convenience.  Sourceforge does have the ability to have a README per
> download folder that gets shown automatically if you go to the folder:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Files-Readme/
>
> If that README is shown that describes all of the downloads and has
> the ChangeLog, would that be enough you think?
>
> steven
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, joachim heintz  wrote:
>> is it possible that we provide some sub-folders in the main csound
>> download folder?
>>
>> currently there are 14 files in
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.02/ , and i
>> think it is not easy for beginners to know which file to download (i
>> experienced this with some of my students).
>>
>> i'd suggest this structure:
>>
>> * Android
>>     -> csound6.apk
>>     -> Csound-android-6.02.0.zip
>> * Browser (or Chrome? how to call this?)
>>     -> Csound-PNaCl-6.02.zip
>> * iOS
>>     -> csound-iOS-6.02.0.1.zip
>> * Linux
>>     -> Debian_amd64.tgz
>> * Mac
>>     -> Csound6.02-OSX10.6
>>     -> Csound6.02-OSX10.9
>> * Manual
>>     -> manual.src.tar.gz
>> * MaxMSP
>>     -> csound~_1.1.1.pkg
>> * Sources
>>     -> Csound6.02.zip
>>     -> Csound6.02.tar.gz
>> * Windows
>>     -> Setup_Csound6_6.02.0.exe
>>
>> in addition, outside these folders the release notes, and if possible a
>> short ReadMe which should very briefly explain what the different
>> versions are intended to do (for instance: csound6.apk is the app, but
>> Csound-android-6.02.0.zip are the android sources).
>>
>> what do others think? if something like this is a consensus, i'd be
>> willing to put some work in it.
>>
>> best -
>>
>>          joachim
>>
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That all makes sense regarding having a normalized file naming scheme.
 I'm happy to modify the installer scripts I have. John, Victor,
Michael: Sound good to you?

I'm happy to not have the change log in the file release README as well.

Thanks!
steven

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, joachim heintz  wrote:
> hi steven -
>
> yes, this sounds like a good improvement.
>
> if in a single folder, perhaps we can have some unification in the file
> names? i'd suggest:
> csound-OS-VERSION#
>
> so, for instance:
> csound-Debian64-6.02.tgz (instead of Debian_amd64.tgz)
> csound-OSX10.9-6.02 (instead of Csound6.02-OSX10.9)
> csound-Windows-6.02.exe (instead of  Setup_Csound6_6.02.0.exe)
>
> i'd personally prefer to seperate the README from the release notes, but
> this is not a huge difference.
>
> best -
>
>         joachim
>
>
>
> Am 25.02.2014 17:53, schrieb Steven Yi:
>> Hi Joachim,
>>
>> I like the idea to clarify the downloads.  My own preference is to
>> have all of the downloads in a single folder though, sheerly out of
>> convenience.  Sourceforge does have the ability to have a README per
>> download folder that gets shown automatically if you go to the folder:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Files-Readme/
>>
>> If that README is shown that describes all of the downloads and has
>> the ChangeLog, would that be enough you think?
>>
>> steven
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, joachim heintz  wrote:
>>> is it possible that we provide some sub-folders in the main csound
>>> download folder?
>>>
>>> currently there are 14 files in
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound6/Csound6.02/ , and i
>>> think it is not easy for beginners to know which file to download (i
>>> experienced this with some of my students).
>>>
>>> i'd suggest this structure:
>>>
>>> * Android
>>>     -> csound6.apk
>>>     -> Csound-android-6.02.0.zip
>>> * Browser (or Chrome? how to call this?)
>>>     -> Csound-PNaCl-6.02.zip
>>> * iOS
>>>     -> csound-iOS-6.02.0.1.zip
>>> * Linux
>>>     -> Debian_amd64.tgz
>>> * Mac
>>>     -> Csound6.02-OSX10.6
>>>     -> Csound6.02-OSX10.9
>>> * Manual
>>>     -> manual.src.tar.gz
>>> * MaxMSP
>>>     -> csound~_1.1.1.pkg
>>> * Sources
>>>     -> Csound6.02.zip
>>>     -> Csound6.02.tar.gz
>>> * Windows
>>>     -> Setup_Csound6_6.02.0.exe
>>>
>>> in addition, outside these folders the release notes, and if possible a
>>> short ReadMe which should very briefly explain what the different
>>> versions are intended to do (for instance: csound6.apk is the app, but
>>> Csound-android-6.02.0.zip are the android sources).
>>>
>>> what do others think? if something like this is a consensus, i'd be
>>> willing to put some work in it.
>>>
>>> best -
>>>
>>>          joachim
>>>
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