[Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress

[Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress

Date	2012-02-16 14:45
From	Steven Yi
Subject	[Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
	Hi All, I was talking with Victor today and was discussing the csound.sf.net site for Csound. The design is looking a bit dated and maintenance has been a bit tricky. I am proposing to replace it with Wordpress, as I think it would be much simpler to maintain the site, as we wouldn't need to use ssh to copy and update files, just log in and use the Wordpress site manager to update the site. If everyone is alright with this I'll look further into this. Thanks! steven p.s. - We did look at the Wordpress installation through the Sourceforge applications that can be enabled for the project (same as how mediawiki is enabled). It's an older version, but does integrate with Sourceforge. I'm going to do a little more research to see what is possible for customization and if it's usable for our purposes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-02-16 15:03
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
	I use WordPress for my personal Web site. Works fine for me and looks great. Regards, Mike On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Steven Yi wrote: > Hi All, > > I was talking with Victor today and was discussing the csound.sf.net > site for Csound. The design is looking a bit dated and maintenance > has been a bit tricky. I am proposing to replace it with Wordpress, > as I think it would be much simpler to maintain the site, as we > wouldn't need to use ssh to copy and update files, just log in and use > the Wordpress site manager to update the site. > > If everyone is alright with this I'll look further into this. > > Thanks! > steven > > p.s. - We did look at the Wordpress installation through the > Sourceforge applications that can be enabled for the project (same as > how mediawiki is enabled). It's an older version, but does integrate > with Sourceforge. I'm going to do a little more research to see what > is possible for customization and if it's usable for our purposes. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel -- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://www.michael-gogins.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-02-16 15:06
From	Rory Walsh
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
	So the web address would still be csound.sf.net? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-02-16 15:08
From	Andres Cabrera
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
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	Hi, I've got no idea, but wouldn't it be more trouble free to use the sf version? Hopefully they would take care of security, updates and monitor for intrusions. Is that too optimistic, maybe? Cheers, Andrés On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote: I use WordPress for my personal Web site. Works fine for me and looks great. Regards, Mike On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I was talking with Victor today and was discussing the csound.sf.net > site for Csound. The design is looking a bit dated and maintenance > has been a bit tricky. I am proposing to replace it with Wordpress, > as I think it would be much simpler to maintain the site, as we > wouldn't need to use ssh to copy and update files, just log in and use > the Wordpress site manager to update the site. > > If everyone is alright with this I'll look further into this. > > Thanks! > steven > > p.s. - We did look at the Wordpress installation through the > Sourceforge applications that can be enabled for the project (same as > how mediawiki is enabled). It's an older version, but does integrate > with Sourceforge. I'm going to do a little more research to see what > is possible for customization and if it's usable for our purposes. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel -- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://www.michael-gogins.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel

Date	2012-02-16 15:33
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
	I just researched and the Wordpress installation is not customizable. The theme from Wordpress 2.8, the version installed, is quite old and not going to work. It should not be difficult to install wordpress though. I've scheduled some time and will upload an installation and look at configuring it. It's quite easy to do (I've used it for years on kunstmusik.com) and should be a good fit for the content of the existing site. Also, with the latest wordpress installations, updating it is quite easy, all doable from the management page. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote: > Hi, > > I've got no idea, but wouldn't it be more trouble free to use the sf > version? Hopefully they would take care of security, updates and monitor for > intrusions. Is that too optimistic, maybe? > > Cheers, > Andrés > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Michael Gogins > wrote: >> >> I use WordPress for my personal Web site. Works fine for me and looks >> great. >> >> Regards, >> Mike >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Steven Yi wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I was talking with Victor today and was discussing the csound.sf.net >> > site for Csound. The design is looking a bit dated and maintenance >> > has been a bit tricky. I am proposing to replace it with Wordpress, >> > as I think it would be much simpler to maintain the site, as we >> > wouldn't need to use ssh to copy and update files, just log in and use >> > the Wordpress site manager to update the site. >> > >> > If everyone is alright with this I'll look further into this. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > steven >> > >> > p.s. - We did look at the Wordpress installation through the >> > Sourceforge applications that can be enabled for the project (same as >> > how mediawiki is enabled). It's an older version, but does integrate >> > with Sourceforge. I'm going to do a little more research to see what >> > is possible for customization and if it's usable for our purposes. >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning >> > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing >> > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. >> > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Csound-devel mailing list >> > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Gogins >> Irreducible Productions >> http://www.michael-gogins.com >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning >> Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing >> also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. >> http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-02-16 15:33
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
	With the custom installation, yes, it would remain csound.sf.net. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Rory Walsh wrote: > So the web address would still be csound.sf.net? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-02-16 15:36
From	Jacob Joaquin
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
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	Hey everyone, Long time no talk. Even though I'm not active these days because of my work schedule, I still read most of the messages that come across the list. I fully endorse the WordPress idea for various reasons. The first is that it will be much easier to maintain the site as Steven put it. Also, plugin development for WordPress is mostly straightforward once you ge the hang of it. This will open up the possibility of creating things such as a fully Csound-centric automated content management system, allowing Csounders to easily trade code and search through archives of instruments, UDOs, pieces, etc. Best, Jake -- codehop.com \| #code #art #music On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: Hi All, I was talking with Victor today and was discussing the csound.sf.net site for Csound. The design is looking a bit dated and maintenance has been a bit tricky. I am proposing to replace it with Wordpress, as I think it would be much simpler to maintain the site, as we wouldn't need to use ssh to copy and update files, just log in and use the Wordpress site manager to update the site. If everyone is alright with this I'll look further into this. Thanks! steven p.s. - We did look at the Wordpress installation through the Sourceforge applications that can be enabled for the project (same as how mediawiki is enabled). It's an older version, but does integrate with Sourceforge. I'm going to do a little more research to see what is possible for customization and if it's usable for our purposes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel

Date	2012-02-17 17:06
From	Iain Duncan
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Changing csound.sf.net to use Wordpress
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	I fully endorse the WordPress idea for various reasons. The first is that it will be much easier to maintain the site as Steven put it. Also, plugin development for WordPress is mostly straightforward once you ge the hang of it. This will open up the possibility of creating things such as a fully Csound-centric automated content management system, allowing Csounders to easily trade code and search through archives of instruments, UDOs, pieces, etc. Wordpress is certainly the easiest to administer of the big three open source cms systems ( Wordpress, joomla, Drupal) and I think moving basic content management to wordpress is a sound idea. However, for the second concern, ( a csound centric system for trading code, searching through archives, etc ) I would recommend looking hard at Django or Pyramid. My web dev company uses Pyramid, but has used Django in the past, they're both very well documented and tested, though Django has an easier hit-the-ground-running experience than Pyramid. And of course there's Ruby-On-Rails, but I think as we have a lot of Python cross over in the csound community it would make more sense to use a Python based framework. Another option is a hybrid, do the regular content in wordress, and all the fancy stuff in Django or Pyramid. I can't stress enough though that programmers who are decent coders should really stay away from Wordpress for anything but basic content management ( which it does just fine! ). Under the hood it's a nightmare, with Drupal and Joomla being slightly better. I've done work using all three and avoid those for anything complex now. I would be more than happy to advise or help on this, we have a lot of experience making custom content and resource management systems in Python using Django, TurboGears, Pylons, and now Pyramid and in Drupal/Joomla/Wordpress. Please let me know if there is anything we can do. You can see our work at www.xornot.com iain www.xornot.com