Hi All,

Just FYI, I think the libcsnd-java release in Ubuntu/Debian may be
broken. I have had reports and have confirmed that blue is unable to
work with the Csound API.  It results from not being able to load the
lib_jcsound.so native lib.  My guess is that the release for
Debian/Ubuntu was done using CMake and the build from there does not
seem to work. I tested with a local build, one with Scons and one with
Cmake, and it failed with my local cmake build, but not scons.  I'm
assuming no one ever tested Csound with Java with the CMake build.

Could someone confirm if csound on Debian/Ubuntu was built with CMake?

Thanks!
steven

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Update: I think I have fixed this. Turns out Cmake was not calling
swig correctly to use "-package csnd" and therefore the generated lib
and jar were incorrect.  I have pushed a fix to GIT. I'm going to
guess that the Debian/Ubuntu build used CMake due to the same lack of
csnd package.

Felipe: How do things work for Debian to get a bug fix like this in
for a release?

Everyone else: Could we tag an 5.18.03 specifically for release on
Debian to fix this java issue?

Thanks!
steven


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just FYI, I think the libcsnd-java release in Ubuntu/Debian may be
> broken. I have had reports and have confirmed that blue is unable to
> work with the Csound API.  It results from not being able to load the
> lib_jcsound.so native lib.  My guess is that the release for
> Debian/Ubuntu was done using CMake and the build from there does not
> seem to work. I tested with a local build, one with Scons and one with
> Cmake, and it failed with my local cmake build, but not scons.  I'm
> assuming no one ever tested Csound with Java with the CMake build.
>
> Could someone confirm if csound on Debian/Ubuntu was built with CMake?
>
> Thanks!
> steven

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Hi, sorry for the delay, I was away.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Update: I think I have fixed this. Turns out Cmake was not calling
> swig correctly to use "-package csnd" and therefore the generated lib
> and jar were incorrect.  I have pushed a fix to GIT. I'm going to
> guess that the Debian/Ubuntu build used CMake due to the same lack of
> csnd package.

Yes, I'm using cmake. Great that you have a fix!

>
> Felipe: How do things work for Debian to get a bug fix like this in
> for a release?

For debian, the usual procedure is to file a bug with severity serious
against the libcsnd-java package. The maintainer then should
negotiatie with the release team to get a fix out. Since the
maintainer is me and I'm already notified, please just point me at the
commit fixing this bug, and I'll do the rest. Feel free to ping me if
I take too long (I should be able to do it around the weekend, maybe
even earlier).

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Hi Felipe,

No worries about the delay, very much understand!  (And thanks, as
usual, for all of your work on Debian!) The commit that fixes things
is:

http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=d7c372b0237ba9aecdd965f1f10eb6e527b7ec52

which fixes the use of "-package csnd" when compiling the java part of
the library.

Thanks again!
steven

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> Hi, sorry for the delay, I was away.
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Update: I think I have fixed this. Turns out Cmake was not calling
>> swig correctly to use "-package csnd" and therefore the generated lib
>> and jar were incorrect.  I have pushed a fix to GIT. I'm going to
>> guess that the Debian/Ubuntu build used CMake due to the same lack of
>> csnd package.
>
> Yes, I'm using cmake. Great that you have a fix!
>
>>
>> Felipe: How do things work for Debian to get a bug fix like this in
>> for a release?
>
> For debian, the usual procedure is to file a bug with severity serious
> against the libcsnd-java package. The maintainer then should
> negotiatie with the release team to get a fix out. Since the
> maintainer is me and I'm already notified, please just point me at the
> commit fixing this bug, and I'll do the rest. Feel free to ping me if
> I take too long (I should be able to do it around the weekend, maybe
> even earlier).
>
> --
>
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
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Great! So, after this change does blue work with libcsnd-java? As I've
never used the java interface I always wondered if it really worked...

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Felipe,
>
> No worries about the delay, very much understand!  (And thanks, as
> usual, for all of your work on Debian!) The commit that fixes things
> is:
>
> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=d7c372b0237ba9aecdd965f1f10eb6e527b7ec52
>
> which fixes the use of "-package csnd" when compiling the java part of
> the library.
>
> Thanks again!
> steven
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>> Hi, sorry for the delay, I was away.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Update: I think I have fixed this. Turns out Cmake was not calling
>>> swig correctly to use "-package csnd" and therefore the generated lib
>>> and jar were incorrect.  I have pushed a fix to GIT. I'm going to
>>> guess that the Debian/Ubuntu build used CMake due to the same lack of
>>> csnd package.
>>
>> Yes, I'm using cmake. Great that you have a fix!
>>
>>>
>>> Felipe: How do things work for Debian to get a bug fix like this in
>>> for a release?
>>
>> For debian, the usual procedure is to file a bug with severity serious
>> against the libcsnd-java package. The maintainer then should
>> negotiatie with the release team to get a fix out. Since the
>> maintainer is me and I'm already notified, please just point me at the
>> commit fixing this bug, and I'll do the rest. Feel free to ping me if
>> I take too long (I should be able to do it around the weekend, maybe
>> even earlier).
>>
>> --
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Felipe Sateler
>>
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It did for me here, at least with my beta version of blue.  Someone on
the blue mailing list reported an issue with their build but they were
using scons (worked with the blue beta, but not 2.2.0). I feel alright
that this is working now.  (I had compared the symbol names using nm
and they looked the same now as the ones generated from scons).

Would it be best to build a test deb pkg and have me test it here?
Also, are there instructions for building a deb?

Thanks!
steven

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> Great! So, after this change does blue work with libcsnd-java? As I've
> never used the java interface I always wondered if it really worked...
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi Felipe,
>>
>> No worries about the delay, very much understand!  (And thanks, as
>> usual, for all of your work on Debian!) The commit that fixes things
>> is:
>>
>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=d7c372b0237ba9aecdd965f1f10eb6e527b7ec52
>>
>> which fixes the use of "-package csnd" when compiling the java part of
>> the library.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>> steven
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>> Hi, sorry for the delay, I was away.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Update: I think I have fixed this. Turns out Cmake was not calling
>>>> swig correctly to use "-package csnd" and therefore the generated lib
>>>> and jar were incorrect.  I have pushed a fix to GIT. I'm going to
>>>> guess that the Debian/Ubuntu build used CMake due to the same lack of
>>>> csnd package.
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm using cmake. Great that you have a fix!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Felipe: How do things work for Debian to get a bug fix like this in
>>>> for a release?
>>>
>>> For debian, the usual procedure is to file a bug with severity serious
>>> against the libcsnd-java package. The maintainer then should
>>> negotiatie with the release team to get a fix out. Since the
>>> maintainer is me and I'm already notified, please just point me at the
>>> commit fixing this bug, and I'll do the rest. Feel free to ping me if
>>> I take too long (I should be able to do it around the weekend, maybe
>>> even earlier).
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>
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Building should be easy, although a bit cumbersome. The workflow in
this case should be:

1. Grab the package source (apt-get source csound), and cd into the sources.
2. Copy the patch into the debian/patches directory (named something
like 000x-swig-java-package-flag.patch[1]), and add the filename to
the file debian/patches/series, keeping the numeric sort.
3. Refresh all patches. Use "quilt push && quilt refresh" repeatedly
until all patches are refreshed[2].
3. Add a new changelog entry with "dch -i" (from the package devscripts).
4. Build the package with "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2)" (-j2 is to
use 2 threads for building,similar to make or scons). This will abort
if there are missing build-dependencies, telling you which packages
you need to install.
5. The packages are in the parent directory of the package sources
(ie, the path where you executed apt-get source).

I hope this makes it clear

[1] We prefix patches with 0xxx if they come from the main csound
repository, which is the case here, 1xxx if they should be applied to
the main repo but are not yet, and 2xxx for debian-specific patches.
[2] The debian build tools abort if any patches do not apply cleanly.
Since the patch was inserted in the middle of the series, some later
patches could apply fuzzily or even not at all.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> It did for me here, at least with my beta version of blue.  Someone on
> the blue mailing list reported an issue with their build but they were
> using scons (worked with the blue beta, but not 2.2.0). I feel alright
> that this is working now.  (I had compared the symbol names using nm
> and they looked the same now as the ones generated from scons).
>
> Would it be best to build a test deb pkg and have me test it here?
> Also, are there instructions for building a deb?
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>> Great! So, after this change does blue work with libcsnd-java? As I've
>> never used the java interface I always wondered if it really worked...
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>
>>> No worries about the delay, very much understand!  (And thanks, as
>>> usual, for all of your work on Debian!) The commit that fixes things
>>> is:
>>>
>>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=d7c372b0237ba9aecdd965f1f10eb6e527b7ec52
>>>
>>> which fixes the use of "-package csnd" when compiling the java part of
>>> the library.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>> Hi, sorry for the delay, I was away.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>> Update: I think I have fixed this. Turns out Cmake was not calling
>>>>> swig correctly to use "-package csnd" and therefore the generated lib
>>>>> and jar were incorrect.  I have pushed a fix to GIT. I'm going to
>>>>> guess that the Debian/Ubuntu build used CMake due to the same lack of
>>>>> csnd package.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I'm using cmake. Great that you have a fix!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Felipe: How do things work for Debian to get a bug fix like this in
>>>>> for a release?
>>>>
>>>> For debian, the usual procedure is to file a bug with severity serious
>>>> against the libcsnd-java package. The maintainer then should
>>>> negotiatie with the release team to get a fix out. Since the
>>>> maintainer is me and I'm already notified, please just point me at the
>>>> commit fixing this bug, and I'll do the rest. Feel free to ping me if
>>>> I take too long (I should be able to do it around the weekend, maybe
>>>> even earlier).
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Saludos,
>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>
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>>
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Hi Felipe,

Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.

Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).

Thanks!
steven


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> Building should be easy, although a bit cumbersome. The workflow in
> this case should be:
>
> 1. Grab the package source (apt-get source csound), and cd into the sources.
> 2. Copy the patch into the debian/patches directory (named something
> like 000x-swig-java-package-flag.patch[1]), and add the filename to
> the file debian/patches/series, keeping the numeric sort.
> 3. Refresh all patches. Use "quilt push && quilt refresh" repeatedly
> until all patches are refreshed[2].
> 3. Add a new changelog entry with "dch -i" (from the package devscripts).
> 4. Build the package with "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2)" (-j2 is to
> use 2 threads for building,similar to make or scons). This will abort
> if there are missing build-dependencies, telling you which packages
> you need to install.
> 5. The packages are in the parent directory of the package sources
> (ie, the path where you executed apt-get source).
>
> I hope this makes it clear
>
> [1] We prefix patches with 0xxx if they come from the main csound
> repository, which is the case here, 1xxx if they should be applied to
> the main repo but are not yet, and 2xxx for debian-specific patches.
> [2] The debian build tools abort if any patches do not apply cleanly.
> Since the patch was inserted in the middle of the series, some later
> patches could apply fuzzily or even not at all.
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> It did for me here, at least with my beta version of blue.  Someone on
>> the blue mailing list reported an issue with their build but they were
>> using scons (worked with the blue beta, but not 2.2.0). I feel alright
>> that this is working now.  (I had compared the symbol names using nm
>> and they looked the same now as the ones generated from scons).
>>
>> Would it be best to build a test deb pkg and have me test it here?
>> Also, are there instructions for building a deb?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>> Great! So, after this change does blue work with libcsnd-java? As I've
>>> never used the java interface I always wondered if it really worked...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>
>>>> No worries about the delay, very much understand!  (And thanks, as
>>>> usual, for all of your work on Debian!) The commit that fixes things
>>>> is:
>>>>
>>>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=d7c372b0237ba9aecdd965f1f10eb6e527b7ec52
>>>>
>>>> which fixes the use of "-package csnd" when compiling the java part of
>>>> the library.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>>> Hi, sorry for the delay, I was away.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>> Update: I think I have fixed this. Turns out Cmake was not calling
>>>>>> swig correctly to use "-package csnd" and therefore the generated lib
>>>>>> and jar were incorrect.  I have pushed a fix to GIT. I'm going to
>>>>>> guess that the Debian/Ubuntu build used CMake due to the same lack of
>>>>>> csnd package.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I'm using cmake. Great that you have a fix!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Felipe: How do things work for Debian to get a bug fix like this in
>>>>>> for a release?
>>>>>
>>>>> For debian, the usual procedure is to file a bug with severity serious
>>>>> against the libcsnd-java package. The maintainer then should
>>>>> negotiatie with the release team to get a fix out. Since the
>>>>> maintainer is me and I'm already notified, please just point me at the
>>>>> commit fixing this bug, and I'll do the rest. Feel free to ping me if
>>>>> I take too long (I should be able to do it around the weekend, maybe
>>>>> even earlier).
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>>
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Felipe,
>
> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>
> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).

The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
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Hi Felipe,

If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:

http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c

I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
be for other programs.

Thanks!
steven

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi Felipe,
>>
>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>
>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>
> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
> it. Thanks anyway!
>
> --
>
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
>
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What does -DPIPES do?

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Felipe,
>
> If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
> adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:
>
> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c
>
> I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
> it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
> be for other programs.
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>>
>>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>>
>> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
>> it. Thanks anyway!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Felipe Sateler
>>
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Hm... actually, I think it has to do with piped input but not from
stdin.  I thought it had to do with -L stdin as it was the case for a
while that -L stdin wasn't required anymore.  Maybe something else
changed and I'm off.  Better safe to disregard this. :)

Thanks!
steven


On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> What does -DPIPES do?
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hi Felipe,
>>
>> If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
>> adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:
>>
>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c
>>
>> I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
>> it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
>> be for other programs.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>>>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>>>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>>>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>>>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>>>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>>>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>>>
>>> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
>>> it. Thanks anyway!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>
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My vague understanding was the the reason for an explicit need for
-Lstdin and the reason that all csound output goes to stderr was so
that using csound in a pipeline with audio coming in stdin and going
out to stdout would be easy to do.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hm... actually, I think it has to do with piped input but not from
> stdin.  I thought it had to do with -L stdin as it was the case for a
> while that -L stdin wasn't required anymore.  Maybe something else
> changed and I'm off.  Better safe to disregard this. :)
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>> What does -DPIPES do?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>
>>> If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
>>> adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:
>>>
>>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c
>>>
>>> I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
>>> it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
>>> be for other programs.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>>>>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>>>>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>>>>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>>>>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>>>>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>>>>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>>>>
>>>> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
>>>> it. Thanks anyway!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Saludos,
>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>
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But for years it was switched so that -L stdin was on by default and
wasn't necessary. At least, that's how I remember it.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Justin Smith  wrote:
> My vague understanding was the the reason for an explicit need for
> -Lstdin and the reason that all csound output goes to stderr was so
> that using csound in a pipeline with audio coming in stdin and going
> out to stdout would be easy to do.
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> Hm... actually, I think it has to do with piped input but not from
>> stdin.  I thought it had to do with -L stdin as it was the case for a
>> while that -L stdin wasn't required anymore.  Maybe something else
>> changed and I'm off.  Better safe to disregard this. :)
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>> What does -DPIPES do?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>
>>>> If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
>>>> adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:
>>>>
>>>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c
>>>>
>>>> I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
>>>> it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
>>>> be for other programs.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>>>>>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>>>>>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>>>>>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>>>>>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>>>>>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>>>>>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
>>>>> it. Thanks anyway!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>>
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I use -Lstdin quite often, and have always had to provide it explicitly.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> But for years it was switched so that -L stdin was on by default and
> wasn't necessary. At least, that's how I remember it.
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Justin Smith  wrote:
>> My vague understanding was the the reason for an explicit need for
>> -Lstdin and the reason that all csound output goes to stderr was so
>> that using csound in a pipeline with audio coming in stdin and going
>> out to stdout would be easy to do.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> Hm... actually, I think it has to do with piped input but not from
>>> stdin.  I thought it had to do with -L stdin as it was the case for a
>>> while that -L stdin wasn't required anymore.  Maybe something else
>>> changed and I'm off.  Better safe to disregard this. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> steven
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>> What does -DPIPES do?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
>>>>> adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
>>>>> it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
>>>>> be for other programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> steven
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>>>>>>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>>>>>>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>>>>>>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>>>>>>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>>>>>>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>>>>>>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
>>>>>> it. Thanks anyway!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>>>
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I can't reproduce the problem...

I downloaded blue and it ran perfectly. I even replaced the csnd.jar
with the one from the debian package but it didn't help...

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Justin Smith  wrote:
> I use -Lstdin quite often, and have always had to provide it explicitly.
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> But for years it was switched so that -L stdin was on by default and
>> wasn't necessary. At least, that's how I remember it.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Justin Smith  wrote:
>>> My vague understanding was the the reason for an explicit need for
>>> -Lstdin and the reason that all csound output goes to stderr was so
>>> that using csound in a pipeline with audio coming in stdin and going
>>> out to stdout would be easy to do.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> Hm... actually, I think it has to do with piped input but not from
>>>> stdin.  I thought it had to do with -L stdin as it was the case for a
>>>> while that -L stdin wasn't required anymore.  Maybe something else
>>>> changed and I'm off.  Better safe to disregard this. :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>>> What does -DPIPES do?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
>>>>>> adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
>>>>>> it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
>>>>>> be for other programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>>>>>>>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>>>>>>>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>>>>>>>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>>>>>>>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>>>>>>>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>>>>>>>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
>>>>>>> it. Thanks anyway!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>>>>
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Hi Felipe,

Were you running with the API?  blue can run both with the API and
running csound from commandline as an external process. To run with
API on debian/ubuntu, you need to modify blue/etc/blue.conf to this:

default_options="--branding blue -J-Xms256m -J-Xmx768m
-J-Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni"

You'll know if the API is being used or not from the Project menu. The
"Use CsoundAPI" option is disabled if the API was not loadable, and if
it is enabled, it needs to be selected.

Thanks!
steven

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> I can't reproduce the problem...
>
> I downloaded blue and it ran perfectly. I even replaced the csnd.jar
> with the one from the debian package but it didn't help...
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Justin Smith  wrote:
>> I use -Lstdin quite often, and have always had to provide it explicitly.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>> But for years it was switched so that -L stdin was on by default and
>>> wasn't necessary. At least, that's how I remember it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Justin Smith  wrote:
>>>> My vague understanding was the the reason for an explicit need for
>>>> -Lstdin and the reason that all csound output goes to stderr was so
>>>> that using csound in a pipeline with audio coming in stdin and going
>>>> out to stdout would be easy to do.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>> Hm... actually, I think it has to do with piped input but not from
>>>>> stdin.  I thought it had to do with -L stdin as it was the case for a
>>>>> while that -L stdin wasn't required anymore.  Maybe something else
>>>>> changed and I'm off.  Better safe to disregard this. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> steven
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>>>> What does -DPIPES do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it is not too late, there is one other bug fix that Tito did for
>>>>>>> adding -DPIPES.  The commit is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=commit;h=73816a9865c9830c4e76dd1cb78f7f79de601e9c
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know I had to modify blue to add "-L stdin" now just for Ubuntu. If
>>>>>>> it's too late, then I think it won't be a problem for blue but could
>>>>>>> be for other programs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info!  Somehow the patch I created from git didn't
>>>>>>>>> apply cleanly.  I did the quilt commands and it seemed to be alright,
>>>>>>>>> but this is all new to me.  When I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -j2"
>>>>>>>>> it failed though in trying to apply that patch I created.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps at this point, I should leave this in the hands of
>>>>>>>>> professionals. :P  (Though, I just realized, I could make a patch from
>>>>>>>>> the diff between what is in that repo and what is in head of csound5;
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately, I have to stop for today...).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The patch would probably be overly large. I'll have to manually apply
>>>>>>>> it. Thanks anyway!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>>>>>>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>>>>>>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>>>>>>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
>>>>>>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>>>
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>
>
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>
> Saludos,
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On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Felipe,
>
> Were you running with the API?  blue can run both with the API and
> running csound from commandline as an external process. To run with
> API on debian/ubuntu, you need to modify blue/etc/blue.conf to this:
>
> default_options="--branding blue -J-Xms256m -J-Xmx768m
> -J-Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni"
>
> You'll know if the API is being used or not from the Project menu. The
> "Use CsoundAPI" option is disabled if the API was not loadable, and if
> it is enabled, it needs to be selected.

Thanks, I could reproduce the problem. An updated package is in debian
unstable, it is pending acceptance by the release team to get included
in the next release.

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