Building with fresh sources from git head for both Csound and CsoundQt, also using prebuilt PortAudio DLL which works fine with just Csound, in the CsoundQt configuration dialog the RT Audio Module picker is ALWAYS "null", and no audio is emitted.

This is my config.user.pri:

CSOUND_INTERFACES_INCLUDE_DIR = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIRS = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\include C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIRS = "C:\\Users\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\include"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\bin"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

LIBSNDFILE_LIB = libsndfile-1.dll

DEFAULT_PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIRS = "C:\\Python27\\include"

#DEFAULT_PYTHONQT_SRC_DIRS = "$$(PROGRAMFILES)\\PythonQt"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

pythonqt: false

console: false

debug: true

CONFIG+=csound6

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-g -O2 -std=gnu++11 -fopenmp -march=nocona -mstackrealign -DNDEBUG

This is my qmake command and results:

$ qmake qcs.pro CONFIG+=csound6

Project MESSAGE: Building for Csound 6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for Windows using MinGW/g++.

Project MESSAGE: ... config.user.pri found

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for the double precision version of Csound.

Project MESSAGE: Building release version.

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: CONFIG ...

Project MESSAGE: + lex

Project MESSAGE: + yacc

Project MESSAGE: + debug

Project MESSAGE: + exceptions

Project MESSAGE: + depend_includepath

Project MESSAGE: + testcase_targets

Project MESSAGE: + import_plugins

Project MESSAGE: + import_qpa_plugin

Project MESSAGE: + rtti_off

Project MESSAGE: + incremental_off

Project MESSAGE: + windows

Project MESSAGE: + qt

Project MESSAGE: + warn_on

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + link_prl

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + rtti

Project MESSAGE: + qpa

Project MESSAGE: + win32

Project MESSAGE: + mingw

Project MESSAGE: + gcc

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE: + build64

Project MESSAGE: + thread

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: ... in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git for csound64.dll

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: Csound interfaces include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\interfaces

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory is C:/Users/mkg.sorabji/csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/include

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/bin

Project MESSAGE:

I am out of time to work on Windows bugs in CsoundQt, so I am going to remove CsoundQt from the next Windows installer unless somebody can suggest a fix in the next few days.

Regards,

Mike

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Hi Michael,

Because CsoundQt now uses the Csound API functions to query rt modules and devices, this points to an issue with OPCODE6DIR/OPCODE6DIR64. If they haven't been set or are set wrong, then the rt module plugins will not be found.

Is this the issue? If not, then there is a problem in the API functions on Windows.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

Building with fresh sources from git head for both Csound and CsoundQt, also using prebuilt PortAudio DLL which works fine with just Csound, in the CsoundQt configuration dialog the RT Audio Module picker is ALWAYS "null", and no audio is emitted.

This is my config.user.pri:

CSOUND_INTERFACES_INCLUDE_DIR = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIRS = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\include C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIRS = "C:\\Users\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\include"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\bin"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

LIBSNDFILE_LIB = libsndfile-1.dll

DEFAULT_PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIRS = "C:\\Python27\\include"

#DEFAULT_PYTHONQT_SRC_DIRS = "$$(PROGRAMFILES)\\PythonQt"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

pythonqt: false

console: false

debug: true

CONFIG+=csound6

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-g -O2 -std=gnu++11 -fopenmp -march=nocona -mstackrealign -DNDEBUG

This is my qmake command and results:

$ qmake qcs.pro CONFIG+=csound6

Project MESSAGE: Building for Csound 6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for Windows using MinGW/g++.

Project MESSAGE: ... config.user.pri found

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for the double precision version of Csound.

Project MESSAGE: Building release version.

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: CONFIG ...

Project MESSAGE: + lex

Project MESSAGE: + yacc

Project MESSAGE: + debug

Project MESSAGE: + exceptions

Project MESSAGE: + depend_includepath

Project MESSAGE: + testcase_targets

Project MESSAGE: + import_plugins

Project MESSAGE: + import_qpa_plugin

Project MESSAGE: + rtti_off

Project MESSAGE: + incremental_off

Project MESSAGE: + windows

Project MESSAGE: + qt

Project MESSAGE: + warn_on

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + link_prl

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + rtti

Project MESSAGE: + qpa

Project MESSAGE: + win32

Project MESSAGE: + mingw

Project MESSAGE: + gcc

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE: + build64

Project MESSAGE: + thread

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: ... in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git for csound64.dll

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: Csound interfaces include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\interfaces

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory is C:/Users/mkg.sorabji/csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/include

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/bin

Project MESSAGE:

I am out of time to work on Windows bugs in CsoundQt, so I am going to remove CsoundQt from the next Windows installer unless somebody can suggest a fix in the next few days.

Regards,

Mike

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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

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It used to say "pa_cb" or "pa_bl", now it says "null."

This of course is 64 bit samples, so it is only OPCODE6DIR64. I believe this is set properly, as it is set by the installer, but I will check it for sure. One thing though, the opcodes and the other binaries including Csound itself and the Csound library are all in OPCODE6DIR64.

Thanks for the hint, I'll let you know this evening.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

Because CsoundQt now uses the Csound API functions to query rt modules and devices, this points to an issue with OPCODE6DIR/OPCODE6DIR64. If they haven't been set or are set wrong, then the rt module plugins will not be found.

Is this the issue? If not, then there is a problem in the API functions on Windows.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

Building with fresh sources from git head for both Csound and CsoundQt, also using prebuilt PortAudio DLL which works fine with just Csound, in the CsoundQt configuration dialog the RT Audio Module picker is ALWAYS "null", and no audio is emitted.

This is my config.user.pri:

CSOUND_INTERFACES_INCLUDE_DIR = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIRS = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\include C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIRS = "C:\\Users\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\include"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\bin"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

LIBSNDFILE_LIB = libsndfile-1.dll

DEFAULT_PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIRS = "C:\\Python27\\include"

#DEFAULT_PYTHONQT_SRC_DIRS = "$$(PROGRAMFILES)\\PythonQt"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

pythonqt: false

console: false

debug: true

CONFIG+=csound6

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-g -O2 -std=gnu++11 -fopenmp -march=nocona -mstackrealign -DNDEBUG

This is my qmake command and results:

$ qmake qcs.pro CONFIG+=csound6

Project MESSAGE: Building for Csound 6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for Windows using MinGW/g++.

Project MESSAGE: ... config.user.pri found

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for the double precision version of Csound.

Project MESSAGE: Building release version.

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: CONFIG ...

Project MESSAGE: + lex

Project MESSAGE: + yacc

Project MESSAGE: + debug

Project MESSAGE: + exceptions

Project MESSAGE: + depend_includepath

Project MESSAGE: + testcase_targets

Project MESSAGE: + import_plugins

Project MESSAGE: + import_qpa_plugin

Project MESSAGE: + rtti_off

Project MESSAGE: + incremental_off

Project MESSAGE: + windows

Project MESSAGE: + qt

Project MESSAGE: + warn_on

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + link_prl

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + rtti

Project MESSAGE: + qpa

Project MESSAGE: + win32

Project MESSAGE: + mingw

Project MESSAGE: + gcc

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE: + build64

Project MESSAGE: + thread

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: ... in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git for csound64.dll

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: Csound interfaces include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\interfaces

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory is C:/Users/mkg.sorabji/csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/include

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/bin

Project MESSAGE:

I am out of time to work on Windows bugs in CsoundQt, so I am going to remove CsoundQt from the next Windows installer unless somebody can suggest a fix in the next few days.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

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Hi,

If it used to say pa_bl, then the Csound API functions were providing the right information to CsoundQt. Has anything related to OPCODE6DIR64 changed? Maybe you have some value set in the environment tab that overrides the system default?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

It used to say "pa_cb" or "pa_bl", now it says "null."

This of course is 64 bit samples, so it is only OPCODE6DIR64. I believe this is set properly, as it is set by the installer, but I will check it for sure. One thing though, the opcodes and the other binaries including Csound itself and the Csound library are all in OPCODE6DIR64.

Thanks for the hint, I'll let you know this evening.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

Because CsoundQt now uses the Csound API functions to query rt modules and devices, this points to an issue with OPCODE6DIR/OPCODE6DIR64. If they haven't been set or are set wrong, then the rt module plugins will not be found.

Is this the issue? If not, then there is a problem in the API functions on Windows.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

Building with fresh sources from git head for both Csound and CsoundQt, also using prebuilt PortAudio DLL which works fine with just Csound, in the CsoundQt configuration dialog the RT Audio Module picker is ALWAYS "null", and no audio is emitted.

This is my config.user.pri:

CSOUND_INTERFACES_INCLUDE_DIR = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIRS = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\include C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIRS = "C:\\Users\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\include"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\bin"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

LIBSNDFILE_LIB = libsndfile-1.dll

DEFAULT_PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIRS = "C:\\Python27\\include"

#DEFAULT_PYTHONQT_SRC_DIRS = "$$(PROGRAMFILES)\\PythonQt"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

pythonqt: false

console: false

debug: true

CONFIG+=csound6

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-g -O2 -std=gnu++11 -fopenmp -march=nocona -mstackrealign -DNDEBUG

This is my qmake command and results:

$ qmake qcs.pro CONFIG+=csound6

Project MESSAGE: Building for Csound 6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for Windows using MinGW/g++.

Project MESSAGE: ... config.user.pri found

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for the double precision version of Csound.

Project MESSAGE: Building release version.

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: CONFIG ...

Project MESSAGE: + lex

Project MESSAGE: + yacc

Project MESSAGE: + debug

Project MESSAGE: + exceptions

Project MESSAGE: + depend_includepath

Project MESSAGE: + testcase_targets

Project MESSAGE: + import_plugins

Project MESSAGE: + import_qpa_plugin

Project MESSAGE: + rtti_off

Project MESSAGE: + incremental_off

Project MESSAGE: + windows

Project MESSAGE: + qt

Project MESSAGE: + warn_on

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + link_prl

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + rtti

Project MESSAGE: + qpa

Project MESSAGE: + win32

Project MESSAGE: + mingw

Project MESSAGE: + gcc

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE: + build64

Project MESSAGE: + thread

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: ... in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git for csound64.dll

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: Csound interfaces include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\interfaces

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory is C:/Users/mkg.sorabji/csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/include

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/bin

Project MESSAGE:

I am out of time to work on Windows bugs in CsoundQt, so I am going to remove CsoundQt from the next Windows installer unless somebody can suggest a fix in the next few days.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

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As I said, I'll check all these hints. Perhaps you could add code to scan the directory from which Csound actually runs, in addition to OPCODE6DIR64.

Did you change anything in your code that could affect this? One day this was working for me, the next day (a month or so ago) it was not working.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
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http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

If it used to say pa_bl, then the Csound API functions were providing the right information to CsoundQt. Has anything related to OPCODE6DIR64 changed? Maybe you have some value set in the environment tab that overrides the system default?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

It used to say "pa_cb" or "pa_bl", now it says "null."

This of course is 64 bit samples, so it is only OPCODE6DIR64. I believe this is set properly, as it is set by the installer, but I will check it for sure. One thing though, the opcodes and the other binaries including Csound itself and the Csound library are all in OPCODE6DIR64.

Thanks for the hint, I'll let you know this evening.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

Because CsoundQt now uses the Csound API functions to query rt modules and devices, this points to an issue with OPCODE6DIR/OPCODE6DIR64. If they haven't been set or are set wrong, then the rt module plugins will not be found.

Is this the issue? If not, then there is a problem in the API functions on Windows.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

Building with fresh sources from git head for both Csound and CsoundQt, also using prebuilt PortAudio DLL which works fine with just Csound, in the CsoundQt configuration dialog the RT Audio Module picker is ALWAYS "null", and no audio is emitted.

This is my config.user.pri:

CSOUND_INTERFACES_INCLUDE_DIR = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIRS = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\include C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIRS = "C:\\Users\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\include"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\bin"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

LIBSNDFILE_LIB = libsndfile-1.dll

DEFAULT_PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIRS = "C:\\Python27\\include"

#DEFAULT_PYTHONQT_SRC_DIRS = "$$(PROGRAMFILES)\\PythonQt"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

pythonqt: false

console: false

debug: true

CONFIG+=csound6

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-g -O2 -std=gnu++11 -fopenmp -march=nocona -mstackrealign -DNDEBUG

This is my qmake command and results:

$ qmake qcs.pro CONFIG+=csound6

Project MESSAGE: Building for Csound 6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for Windows using MinGW/g++.

Project MESSAGE: ... config.user.pri found

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for the double precision version of Csound.

Project MESSAGE: Building release version.

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: CONFIG ...

Project MESSAGE: + lex

Project MESSAGE: + yacc

Project MESSAGE: + debug

Project MESSAGE: + exceptions

Project MESSAGE: + depend_includepath

Project MESSAGE: + testcase_targets

Project MESSAGE: + import_plugins

Project MESSAGE: + import_qpa_plugin

Project MESSAGE: + rtti_off

Project MESSAGE: + incremental_off

Project MESSAGE: + windows

Project MESSAGE: + qt

Project MESSAGE: + warn_on

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + link_prl

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + rtti

Project MESSAGE: + qpa

Project MESSAGE: + win32

Project MESSAGE: + mingw

Project MESSAGE: + gcc

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE: + build64

Project MESSAGE: + thread

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: ... in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git for csound64.dll

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: Csound interfaces include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\interfaces

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory is C:/Users/mkg.sorabji/csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/include

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/bin

Project MESSAGE:

I am out of time to work on Windows bugs in CsoundQt, so I am going to remove CsoundQt from the next Windows installer unless somebody can suggest a fix in the next few days.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

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I might have changed something, but it's working for both Linux and OS X as it was before. Can you provide more information as to where you have OPCODE6DIR64 and if you have anything set in the environment variables cofngiruation of CsoundQt?

If the rt modules are not being found, then it is likely that plugin opcodes like the OSC opcodes are not being found either. Running a csd file with these opcode might give us some hints.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

As I said, I'll check all these hints. Perhaps you could add code to scan the directory from which Csound actually runs, in addition to OPCODE6DIR64.

Did you change anything in your code that could affect this? One day this was working for me, the next day (a month or so ago) it was not working.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

If it used to say pa_bl, then the Csound API functions were providing the right information to CsoundQt. Has anything related to OPCODE6DIR64 changed? Maybe you have some value set in the environment tab that overrides the system default?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

It used to say "pa_cb" or "pa_bl", now it says "null."

This of course is 64 bit samples, so it is only OPCODE6DIR64. I believe this is set properly, as it is set by the installer, but I will check it for sure. One thing though, the opcodes and the other binaries including Csound itself and the Csound library are all in OPCODE6DIR64.

Thanks for the hint, I'll let you know this evening.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

Because CsoundQt now uses the Csound API functions to query rt modules and devices, this points to an issue with OPCODE6DIR/OPCODE6DIR64. If they haven't been set or are set wrong, then the rt module plugins will not be found.

Is this the issue? If not, then there is a problem in the API functions on Windows.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

Building with fresh sources from git head for both Csound and CsoundQt, also using prebuilt PortAudio DLL which works fine with just Csound, in the CsoundQt configuration dialog the RT Audio Module picker is ALWAYS "null", and no audio is emitted.

This is my config.user.pri:

CSOUND_INTERFACES_INCLUDE_DIR = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIRS = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\include C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIRS = "C:\\Users\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\include"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\bin"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

LIBSNDFILE_LIB = libsndfile-1.dll

DEFAULT_PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIRS = "C:\\Python27\\include"

#DEFAULT_PYTHONQT_SRC_DIRS = "$$(PROGRAMFILES)\\PythonQt"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

pythonqt: false

console: false

debug: true

CONFIG+=csound6

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-g -O2 -std=gnu++11 -fopenmp -march=nocona -mstackrealign -DNDEBUG

This is my qmake command and results:

$ qmake qcs.pro CONFIG+=csound6

Project MESSAGE: Building for Csound 6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for Windows using MinGW/g++.

Project MESSAGE: ... config.user.pri found

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for the double precision version of Csound.

Project MESSAGE: Building release version.

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: CONFIG ...

Project MESSAGE: + lex

Project MESSAGE: + yacc

Project MESSAGE: + debug

Project MESSAGE: + exceptions

Project MESSAGE: + depend_includepath

Project MESSAGE: + testcase_targets

Project MESSAGE: + import_plugins

Project MESSAGE: + import_qpa_plugin

Project MESSAGE: + rtti_off

Project MESSAGE: + incremental_off

Project MESSAGE: + windows

Project MESSAGE: + qt

Project MESSAGE: + warn_on

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + link_prl

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + rtti

Project MESSAGE: + qpa

Project MESSAGE: + win32

Project MESSAGE: + mingw

Project MESSAGE: + gcc

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE: + build64

Project MESSAGE: + thread

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: ... in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git for csound64.dll

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE: LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIR set to D:\msys\local\opt\libsndfile\bin

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: Csound interfaces include directory is C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\interfaces

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory is C:/Users/mkg.sorabji/csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile include directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/include

Project MESSAGE: libsndfile library directory is D:/msys/local/opt/libsndfile/bin

Project MESSAGE:

I am out of time to work on Windows bugs in CsoundQt, so I am going to remove CsoundQt from the next Windows installer unless somebody can suggest a fix in the next few days.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

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Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

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OK, here's the good news. Andres, your hint about environment settings was spot on, that was the cause of my problems. I must have set the internal OPCODE6DIR64 variable for some reason and forgotten about it. 

So, I disabled the internal OPCODE6DIR64   Not only does CsoundQt now play audio as before, but even better than before. CsoundQt will now play a piece a second time and additional times which it did not used to do. I'm not sure what the cause of this particular improvement is.

I will be posting a new Windows installer including CsoundQt sometime in the next few days, certainly no later than a few days before the Csound Conference in Boston.

More good news is that I am now using a pre-built Windows PortAudio library that includes ALL of the audio drivers. Building this myself was getting to be a bit much. Doing all of them requires Microsoft Visual C++, the Microsoft Windows SDK, the Microsoft Windows Driver Kit, the Driver Kit co-installers, and of course the ASIO SDK from Steinberg... gory details in the Configuration page of the Web site where I got the binary:

https://github.com/adfernandes/precompiled-portaudio-windows

This means low-latency audio on Windows will now be available for other drivers, not just ASIO.

Thanks,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

I might have changed something, but it's working for both Linux and OS X as it was before. Can you provide more information as to where you have OPCODE6DIR64 and if you have anything set in the environment variables cofngiruation of CsoundQt?

If the rt modules are not being found, then it is likely that plugin opcodes like the OSC opcodes are not being found either. Running a csd file with these opcode might give us some hints.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

As I said, I'll check all these hints. Perhaps you could add code to scan the directory from which Csound actually runs, in addition to OPCODE6DIR64.

Did you change anything in your code that could affect this? One day this was working for me, the next day (a month or so ago) it was not working.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

If it used to say pa_bl, then the Csound API functions were providing the right information to CsoundQt. Has anything related to OPCODE6DIR64 changed? Maybe you have some value set in the environment tab that overrides the system default?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

It used to say "pa_cb" or "pa_bl", now it says "null."

This of course is 64 bit samples, so it is only OPCODE6DIR64. I believe this is set properly, as it is set by the installer, but I will check it for sure. One thing though, the opcodes and the other binaries including Csound itself and the Csound library are all in OPCODE6DIR64.

Thanks for the hint, I'll let you know this evening.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

Because CsoundQt now uses the Csound API functions to query rt modules and devices, this points to an issue with OPCODE6DIR/OPCODE6DIR64. If they haven't been set or are set wrong, then the rt module plugins will not be found.

Is this the issue? If not, then there is a problem in the API functions on Windows.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

Building with fresh sources from git head for both Csound and CsoundQt, also using prebuilt PortAudio DLL which works fine with just Csound, in the CsoundQt configuration dialog the RT Audio Module picker is ALWAYS "null", and no audio is emitted.

This is my config.user.pri:

CSOUND_INTERFACES_INCLUDE_DIR = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIRS = C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\include C:\\Users\\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git\\interfaces

DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBRARY_DIRS = "C:\\Users\mkg.sorabji\\csound-csound6-git"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_INCLUDE_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\include"

DEFAULT_LIBSNDFILE_LIBRARY_DIRS = "D:\\msys\\local\\opt\\libsndfile\\bin"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

LIBSNDFILE_LIB = libsndfile-1.dll

DEFAULT_PYTHON_INCLUDE_DIRS = "C:\\Python27\\include"

#DEFAULT_PYTHONQT_SRC_DIRS = "$$(PROGRAMFILES)\\PythonQt"

build32: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound32.dll

build64: DEFAULT_CSOUND_LIBS = csound64.dll

pythonqt: false

console: false

debug: true

CONFIG+=csound6

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS+=-g -O2 -std=gnu++11 -fopenmp -march=nocona -mstackrealign -DNDEBUG

This is my qmake command and results:

$ qmake qcs.pro CONFIG+=csound6

Project MESSAGE: Building for Csound 6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for Windows using MinGW/g++.

Project MESSAGE: ... config.user.pri found

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Building CsoundQt for the double precision version of Csound.

Project MESSAGE: Building release version.

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: CONFIG ...

Project MESSAGE: + lex

Project MESSAGE: + yacc

Project MESSAGE: + debug

Project MESSAGE: + exceptions

Project MESSAGE: + depend_includepath

Project MESSAGE: + testcase_targets

Project MESSAGE: + import_plugins

Project MESSAGE: + import_qpa_plugin

Project MESSAGE: + rtti_off

Project MESSAGE: + incremental_off

Project MESSAGE: + windows

Project MESSAGE: + qt

Project MESSAGE: + warn_on

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + link_prl

Project MESSAGE: + release

Project MESSAGE: + rtti

Project MESSAGE: + qpa

Project MESSAGE: + win32

Project MESSAGE: + mingw

Project MESSAGE: + gcc

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE: + build64

Project MESSAGE: + thread

Project MESSAGE: + csound6

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound API include directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE: CSOUND_API_INCLUDE_DIR set to C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git\include

Project MESSAGE:

Project MESSAGE: Csound library directory not specified.

Project MESSAGE: ... searching in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git

Project MESSAGE: ... in C:\Users\mkg.sorabji\csound-csound6-git for csound64.dll

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I am out of time to work on Windows bugs in CsoundQt, so I am going to remove CsoundQt from the next Windows installer unless somebody can suggest a fix in the next few days.

Regards,

Mike

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On 10/16/2013 08:33 AM, joachim heintz wrote:
> wow -- that's good news for many windows user. thanks for your efforts,
> michael!
>       j
>

Indeed. Is Michael the only developer working directly on Csound for
Windows ?

Best,

dp

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I think we are all very thankful for the effort you have put in maintaining Csound on Windows. I was wondering whether there are Windows expert users out there who might want to help out with packaging it for that platform. It would be easier in the long run for someone working exclusively on Windows to help out with this.

Victor

On 16 Oct 2013, at 14:42, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not know how many other developers work on Windows as a development platform for Csound. I do know that I am the only person who maintains the Windows installer for Csound, which involves many third party packages such as STK, FluidSynth, OSC, etc.
>
> I also through the years have done a fair amount of development for Csound on Linux, and I still occasionally do some.
>
> If I had my druthers I would drop Windows altogether. The actual Csound build with CMake is pretty much the same on Linux as on Windows, but keeping the many third party packages up to date is much, much more time-consuming on Windows than on Linux. On Linux, you mostly just tick off some boxes in the package manager. On Windows there is no standard way of doing this.
>
> However, I feel a sense of responsibility to keep Csound up to date on Windows. As far as I can tell, there are actually more users of Csound on Windows than on any other platform. At least, Csound has been downloaded more often for Windows.
>
> As far as comparing operating systems themselves is concerned, they are all on the same level of more or less refined but somewhat bloated excellence now. I don't like Apple's sandbox approach to the world, I don't like Windows 8 "metro" interface with its lame "apps," and I don't like that people don't just switch to Linux and get over it. And in the future I may not like where Shuttleworth is taking Ubuntu.
>
> To sum it all up if I were getting started with computer music today I would use only Linux, but since I have ended up maintaining the Windows installer I think I should keep on doing it, unless someone else wants to, which would be fine with me. I'd have more time to compose without getting interrupted every few months by the installer maintenance.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> ===========================
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> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@woh.rr.com> wrote:
> On 10/16/2013 08:33 AM, joachim heintz wrote:
> > wow -- that's good news for many windows user. thanks for your efforts,
> > michael!
> >       j
> >
>
> Indeed. Is Michael the only developer working directly on Csound for
> Windows ?
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
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Hi Mike,

For the MSVC work, I'm currently finding the difficulties you're talking about. 

It's definitely not as easy as on Linux and really is a lot of work getting all of the dependencies in place.

I saw a video of GoingNative2013, one of the talks involved bringing NuGet to C++ in VS (http://coapp.org/index.html), which is basically the same as apt-get.

I was thinking that for the MSVC build of Csound, this would be a nice feature and could save a lot of hassle for other developers.

It would mean that once we uploaded all the libraries required onto nuget.org (portmidi is there already for instance http://www.nuget.org/packages/portmidi/),

any new developer could just pull these down as a part of the solution file. We'd have to write up some scripts to say what is required but I don't think it's anything too difficult.

Instead of every Windows developer having to setup a build environment then, only one person would have to upload the latest release of a particular library.

I'm not sure how a CMake generated VS solution file will work with all of this though, it's possible that a manual solution file may need to be created.

Which of course might be more work than just adding the libraries manually :/ I'll investigate a bit more and see.

Stephen

---

Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 10:58:21 -0400
From: michael.gogins@gmail.com
To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] CsoundQt not working on Windows

These are the things I keep running into with Windows:

(1) The third party packages are just much harder to update on Windows than on other platforms.

(2) Even the Windows C/C++ compiler and other tools keep morphing, more so than gcc on Linux anyway. For example, I used to get MinGW from mingw.org, now I get it from mingw-builds.

(3) The Csound developers seem almost all to develop on Linux and OS X, and without intending to, they sometimes "break" code that used to work on Windows so that I have to fix it.

Regards,

Mike

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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:

I think we are all very thankful for the effort you have put in maintaining Csound on Windows. I was wondering whether there are Windows expert users out there who might want to help out with packaging it for that platform. It would be easier in the long run for someone working exclusively on Windows to help out with this.

Victor

On 16 Oct 2013, at 14:42, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not know how many other developers work on Windows as a development platform for Csound. I do know that I am the only person who maintains the Windows installer for Csound, which involves many third party packages such as STK, FluidSynth, OSC, etc.
>
> I also through the years have done a fair amount of development for Csound on Linux, and I still occasionally do some.
>
> If I had my druthers I would drop Windows altogether. The actual Csound build with CMake is pretty much the same on Linux as on Windows, but keeping the many third party packages up to date is much, much more time-consuming on Windows than on Linux. On Linux, you mostly just tick off some boxes in the package manager. On Windows there is no standard way of doing this.
>
> However, I feel a sense of responsibility to keep Csound up to date on Windows. As far as I can tell, there are actually more users of Csound on Windows than on any other platform. At least, Csound has been downloaded more often for Windows.
>
> As far as comparing operating systems themselves is concerned, they are all on the same level of more or less refined but somewhat bloated excellence now. I don't like Apple's sandbox approach to the world, I don't like Windows 8 "metro" interface with its lame "apps," and I don't like that people don't just switch to Linux and get over it. And in the future I may not like where Shuttleworth is taking Ubuntu.
>
> To sum it all up if I were getting started with computer music today I would use only Linux, but since I have ended up maintaining the Windows installer I think I should keep on doing it, unless someone else wants to, which would be fine with me. I'd have more time to compose without getting interrupted every few months by the installer maintenance.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> ===========================
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@woh.rr.com> wrote:
> On 10/16/2013 08:33 AM, joachim heintz wrote:
> > wow -- that's good news for many windows user. thanks for your efforts,
> > michael!
> >       j
> >
>
> Indeed. Is Michael the only developer working directly on Csound for
> Windows ?
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
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