| yes, that's right, because local_ksmps changed after the init pass, and we need to recalculate ksmps_scale. Now that
you've pointed it out, it's clear as daylight.
On 6 Jan 2014, at 16:44, Steven Yi wrote:
> Well the key issue is the recalculation of ksmps_scale in line 1262.
> That was using the default value of 1. In CS5, the recalculation
> happened in setksmpsset but stored as a value in the INSDS (I think it
> was there), then reused in that code around 1262. That recalculation
> didn't happen so the xtratim was orders of magnitude bigger than it
> should have been.
>
> And definitely the code is clearer. :)
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Victor Lazzarini
> wrote:
>> Well, that’s great. I really don’t know what we fixed that was wrong, but there you go. At least the code is clearer now.
>>
>> Victor
>> On 6 Jan 2014, at 16:27, Steven Yi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Victor,
>>>
>>> I agree that csound->ksmps is not the right way. I had put that in
>>> because I was seeing the parent_ip's ksmps value matching the cur_ip
>>> which seemed wrong, but I might have been just mistaken in reading
>>> debugger output and should have been looking elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I tested here on commandline with the test file I had sent earlier and
>>> that worked. Also, I tested my original project in Blue and that is
>>> working too. In the debugger in XCode, I'm seeing values that look
>>> consistent with CS5 now.
>>>
>>> Awesome! Thanks for fixing that code up!
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>> wrote:
>>>> OK, I’ve made some modifications to usropcdset():
>>>>
>>>> 1) I reverted the check to CS_KSMPS, which I think is the correct thing to do. I’ve also reverted the
>>>> ksmps_scale calculations to use CS_KSMPS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) I removed the save_curip variable, and replaced its use with parent_ip, so the code is clearer
>>>> in terms of what it is doing.
>>>>
>>>> 3) I’ve added a debug printout, showing extratim values for each instance (current, parent).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, with the following test code
>>>>
>>>> 0dbfs=1
>>>> ksmps=100
>>>>
>>>> opcode Test1,a,a
>>>> setksmps 1
>>>> a1 xin
>>>> k1 linsegr 1,1,1,1,0
>>>> xout a1*k1
>>>> endop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> opcode Test2,a,a
>>>> a1 xin
>>>> k1 linsegr 1,1,1,0.5,1
>>>> a2 Test1 a1
>>>> xout a2*k1
>>>> endop
>>>>
>>>> instr 1
>>>> a1 vco2 0.5, 440
>>>> a2 Test2 a1
>>>> out a2
>>>> endin
>>>>
>>>> I get a correct length of audio, and the following debug trace
>>>>
>>>> EXTRATIM=> cur(0x1060f0210): 44100, parent(0x10609ca10): 441
>>>> EXTRATIM=> cur(0x10609ca10): 441, parent(0x1010a5810): 441
>>>>
>>>> The inner opcode (Test1), with ksmps 1, shows a xtratim of 44100 (correctly, 1 second at kr=44100),
>>>> and the outer opcode (Test2) with ksmps = 100 shows a xtratim of 441 (1 second at kr=441) and
>>>> the calling instrument has the same xtratim.
>>>>
>>>> So all appears correct to me. I am pushing this to the release/6.02.0 branch.
>>>>
>>>> Steven: could you check your test case?
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Jan 2014, at 10:27, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The code needs to look at CS_KSMPS, not csound->ksmps, because otherwise the perf function selected
>>>>> (useropcd1) will be wrong when both local ksmps and CS_KSMPS are the same and are different from csound->ksmps
>>>>> (in that case, useropcd2 needs to be selected).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, there is more that needs to be looked at. I’m working on it now, but we need to test with your CSD that was showing
>>>>> the broken code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 Jan 2014, at 08:47, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we might need to hold on for a little while, to make sure this is correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a look at your changes. From what I can see, the issue was that we were using p->h.insdshead->ksmps instead of csound->ksmps
>>>>>> in that bit of code. That is, the parent instrument ksmps, instead of the global ksmps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea was that if the local ksmps differed from the parent instrument ksmps, then when copying the parameters
>>>>>> back to the parent instrument (saved_curip), we would scale xtratim accordingly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that you are comparing to csound->ksmps, if the parent instrument has a different ksmps to csound->ksmps, I think
>>>>>> the value copied back might be wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if all this copying back to save_curip is necessary at all. I think we might need to remove that and just point
>>>>>> csound->curip to parent_ip after the init-pass loop, and save a lot of trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have a simple test CSD for this? I might try to put one together and look at this problem this morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>> On 6 Jan 2014, at 02:45, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I got it. I went back and forth a few times, reverting
>>>>>>> things, etc. I did find a solution which was to modify a check in
>>>>>>> useropcdset to compare local_ksmps to csound->ksmps; if they were
>>>>>>> unequal, I put in a recalculation of ksmps_scale and then modified
>>>>>>> xtratim with that. What I found was that CS5's code did something
>>>>>>> similar but in a roundabout way: in setksmpsset, it would calculate a
>>>>>>> new ksmps_scale. setksmpsset was called during the initialization of
>>>>>>> the UDO instance, about midway through useropcdset. That in turn made
>>>>>>> it hard to find out what was going on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To note: I am somewhat confident that the code is now working, but I
>>>>>>> am not entirely confident that there aren't other bugs. This area of
>>>>>>> code was difficult for me to go through.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also to note, I didn't not change instances of csound->ekr to CS_EKR
>>>>>>> in my commit. I'm a bit spent to try that again and to do any
>>>>>>> testing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've merged in the changes from develop and pushed those and my fix up
>>>>>>> to SF in the release/6.02.0 branch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>> Still has an issue, but getting closer. In CS5, when timexpire first
>>>>>>>> gets called, the calculated offtim and offbet (this is in
>>>>>>>> insert.c:set_xtratim() ) are 1.187120181405783. In CS6, this was
>>>>>>>> something like 20000, but after commenting out the setksmpsset code,
>>>>>>>> I'm getting values of 39.39555555555555. There must still be some
>>>>>>>> multiply that is off somewhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I think I found the bug: in CS5, setksmpsset in insert.c pre-caches
>>>>>>>>> some ksmps_scale value. In CS6, this is not done, but there was some
>>>>>>>>> code there that multiplied the xtratim:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> // p->h.insdshead->xtratim *= n;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I commented that out and the xtratim values seem stable again. The
>>>>>>>>> calculated values do differ a little bit from CS5. Will do some
>>>>>>>>> testing now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm watching the ksmps_scale and local_ksmps value now in useropcdset.
>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the issue manifests when a UDO calls another UDO. In
>>>>>>>>>> this case, I think the 2nd or 3rd level down UDO is using setksmps,
>>>>>>>>>> but the callers are not using setksmps. I think I saw local_ksmps and
>>>>>>>>>> ksmps_scale not agreeing in value just now, going to rerun a few more
>>>>>>>>>> times and see if I find it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure whether csound->icurTime is correct when an instrument has local ksmps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Jan 2014, at 18:56, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tried that here but that didn't change the behavior (so, I can't tell
>>>>>>>>>>>> if that change is necessary or not). What I'm seeing is that with
>>>>>>>>>>>> debugger is that xtratim gets modified in useropcdset. In CS5, it's a
>>>>>>>>>>>> stable value, but in CS6, it looks to be getting multiplied over and
>>>>>>>>>>>> over. I think there's a scaling factor that is missing somehow. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> got both CS5 and 6 in XCode now and am continuing to debug.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t this be:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip->offtim = (csound->icurTime +
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip->ksmps * (double) ip->xtratim)/csound->esr;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Jan 2014, at 16:31, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm currently looking at set_xtratim() in insert.c:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> static void set_xtratim(CSOUND *csound, INSDS *ip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if (ip->relesing)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> return;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip->offtim = (csound->icurTime +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> csound->ksmps * (double) ip->xtratim)/csound->esr;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip->offbet = csound->curBeat + (csound->curBeat_inc * (double) ip->xtratim);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ip->relesing = 1;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> csound->engineState.instrtxtp[ip->insno]->pending_release++;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks to me that timexpire() gets called when the note's p3 is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done. I'm not sure the values being calculated here are correct, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also wondering if the xtratim change I did (commit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a559181723567dc47168585fa5e0c9ed64cb0800) was correct. Still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investigating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still getting underruns with cs6. I've attached a test CSD here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With CS5 I am not getting underruns. The suspicion is that there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> timeout value being incorrectly calculated, but I am not sure. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CSD starts to stutter for me around 12 seconds into the render, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should differ depending on CPU/machine/etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've modified the ones you listed to use CS_EKR. I'll see if any of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those fixes the issue I have here. I may need help testing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opcodes individually though. I'll report back here as I find out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’d say the only ones we need to worry are in opcodes. This means the ones in OOps/*.c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a rule of thumb, wherever p->h.insdshead->ekr is available, it should be used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This means these guys are probably wrong:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/disprep.c:90: npts = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/disprep.c:250: step_size = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/disprep.c:440: if (UNLIKELY((p->timcount = (int)(csound->ekr * iperiod)) <= 0))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/disprep.c:442: if (UNLIKELY((p->dtimcnt = (int)(csound->ekr * *p->idisprd)) < 0))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/disprep.c:540: p->tempscal = FL(60.0) * csound->ekr / p->timcount;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:58: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:87: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:112: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:140: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:166: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:195: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:220: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:247: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:396: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:422: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:448: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:476: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:502: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:530: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:556: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:584: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:757: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/dumpf.c:784: if ((p->timcount = (int32)(*p->iprd * csound->ekr)) <= 0)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/goto_ops.c:97: if (UNLIKELY((p->cnt1 = (int32)(*p->idel * csound->ekr + FL(0.5))) < 0L ||
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/goto_ops.c:98: (p->cnt2 = (int32)(*p->idur * csound->ekr + FL(0.5))) < 0L))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/midiout.c:80: p->period= csound->ekr / *p->freq;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/schedule.c:368: int32 timrem = (int32) (*p->mintime * csound->ekr + FL(0.5));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/schedule.c:433: p->timrem = (int32) (*p->mintime * csound->ekr + FL(0.5));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ../OOps/ugens2.c:1014: p->dcnt = (int32)(*p->idel * csound->ekr);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disprep.c is displays.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumpf.c is the dump opcodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem in goto_ops.c is in the timout opcode (i-pass).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> midiout.c is midi output.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schedule.c issue is in schedkwhen, schedkwhennamed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a final problem in oscil1 (ugens2.c).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Jan 2014, at 02:55, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back home from holidays and am starting to get back into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development. I noticed that one of my projects still has some kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance degredation as the project keeps rendering. I suspect it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is related to certain instances continuing to be kept around due to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miscalculation of times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grep "csound->ekr" * -n -r
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the csound6 directory and found a number of uses. Some look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct but others I'm not quite sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to do some further testing tomorrow after creating a test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file to use. I forgot if we were waiting until Monday or not, but I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to ask to hold on the release until at least then so I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnose this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steven
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