Hi Michael,

I'm wondering if what you're describing is what happened to my last
Windows 7 VM.  I logged into it a week and a half ago and everything
was blasted away: desktop, all user environment variables, etc.  I
ended up deleting that VM and am in the process of rebuilding a new VM
now.  I did some googling myself and didn't find much as to what
caused it, but I can attest that it was ridiculous and horrible waste
of time.

For myself, I'm thinking of doing VM Snapshots to have controlled
points to return to. On the other hand, I'm beginning to run out of
hard drive space here and am having to be careful about snapshotting
too much. I just hope I can get things setup and snapshotted before
any kind of user profile deletion happens!

Sorry I can't be of more help, but just thought I'd mention it
happened to me too.

steven

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Michael Gogins
<michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
> About Windows (from Windows Vista on). Periodically my user profile becomes
> corrupted. I then need to create a brand new user, log in as that user, log
> out, log in as an adminstrator, copy all my old files from my defunct User
> directory into the new user's User directory (and this doesn't always work),
> then patch up my MSys and CMake etc. shell scripts and build scripts to
> match the new directory. This takes typically several hours. This has
> happened more than 3 times now... aaargh!
>
> Coupled with the general tediousness of maintaining the Windows installer
> build for Csound, I am very strongly tempted to remove Windows from all of
> my computers and from my life in favor of Linux, which in my experience is
> not subject to this kind of problem. This of course would leave Csound
> without a maintainer for the Windows build and Windows installer unless
> somebody else steps up to the plate.
>
> Comments?
>
> I'd appreciate any helpful hints on faster ways of recovering correupted
> user profiles (but note I spent hours googling for such hints). If I have
> that, the problems of maintaining the Windows installer build become
> manageable. Perhaps I just need to create a restore point every so often...
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> ===========================
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>

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This just happened to me the other day as well. I think it was due to a covert "black Tuesday" update, where Microsoft releases OS patches typically on Tuesdays. Haven't tried completely disabling Windows update yet but that's my next step. I do have restore points and I plan on comparing things this weekend to get to the bottom of this. I agree that this type of OS behavior is more trouble than it is worth. I don't see this improving with releases of Windows 8 and beyond.

Perhaps there will be an opportunity at the Csound Conference to solicit interested parties in maintaining the development cycle on Windows. It is quite possible that there are a variety of people out there with the skills and interest in maintaining Windows installers that simply aren't active on the Csound lists.

Cheers,

David

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

I'm wondering if what you're describing is what happened to my last
Windows 7 VM.  I logged into it a week and a half ago and everything
was blasted away: desktop, all user environment variables, etc.  I
ended up deleting that VM and am in the process of rebuilding a new VM
now.  I did some googling myself and didn't find much as to what
caused it, but I can attest that it was ridiculous and horrible waste
of time.

For myself, I'm thinking of doing VM Snapshots to have controlled
points to return to. On the other hand, I'm beginning to run out of
hard drive space here and am having to be careful about snapshotting
too much. I just hope I can get things setup and snapshotted before
any kind of user profile deletion happens!

Sorry I can't be of more help, but just thought I'd mention it
happened to me too.

steven

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Michael Gogins
<michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
> About Windows (from Windows Vista on). Periodically my user profile becomes
> corrupted. I then need to create a brand new user, log in as that user, log
> out, log in as an adminstrator, copy all my old files from my defunct User
> directory into the new user's User directory (and this doesn't always work),
> then patch up my MSys and CMake etc. shell scripts and build scripts to
> match the new directory. This takes typically several hours. This has
> happened more than 3 times now... aaargh!
>
> Coupled with the general tediousness of maintaining the Windows installer
> build for Csound, I am very strongly tempted to remove Windows from all of
> my computers and from my life in favor of Linux, which in my experience is
> not subject to this kind of problem. This of course would leave Csound
> without a maintainer for the Windows build and Windows installer unless
> somebody else steps up to the plate.
>
> Comments?
>
> I'd appreciate any helpful hints on faster ways of recovering correupted
> user profiles (but note I spent hours googling for such hints). If I have
> that, the problems of maintaining the Windows installer build become
> manageable. Perhaps I just need to create a restore point every so often...
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> ===========================
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>

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Thank you all for your information. I think it's very interesting that some of you have experienced what seems to be the same problem at the same time.

What troubles me most is this. Up to now I felt that Windows, as an operating system, was far improved over its past and on the same level of performance, usability, and reliability as Linux (I'm not qualified to talk about OS X, sorry). I would still say that it is as usable and performant as its competition. But I am now wondering if it is reliable enough. That's pretty severe. I try my best to be very objective about these things. I'll be googling to see if this has been noted elsewhere.

Regards,

Mike

===========================

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:06 AM, David Akbari <dakbari@gmail.com> wrote:

This just happened to me the other day as well. I think it was due to a covert "black Tuesday" update, where Microsoft releases OS patches typically on Tuesdays. Haven't tried completely disabling Windows update yet but that's my next step. I do have restore points and I plan on comparing things this weekend to get to the bottom of this. I agree that this type of OS behavior is more trouble than it is worth. I don't see this improving with releases of Windows 8 and beyond.

Perhaps there will be an opportunity at the Csound Conference to solicit interested parties in maintaining the development cycle on Windows. It is quite possible that there are a variety of people out there with the skills and interest in maintaining Windows installers that simply aren't active on the Csound lists.

Cheers,

David

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Michael,

I'm wondering if what you're describing is what happened to my last
Windows 7 VM.  I logged into it a week and a half ago and everything
was blasted away: desktop, all user environment variables, etc.  I
ended up deleting that VM and am in the process of rebuilding a new VM
now.  I did some googling myself and didn't find much as to what
caused it, but I can attest that it was ridiculous and horrible waste
of time.

For myself, I'm thinking of doing VM Snapshots to have controlled
points to return to. On the other hand, I'm beginning to run out of
hard drive space here and am having to be careful about snapshotting
too much. I just hope I can get things setup and snapshotted before
any kind of user profile deletion happens!

Sorry I can't be of more help, but just thought I'd mention it
happened to me too.

steven

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Michael Gogins
<michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote:
> About Windows (from Windows Vista on). Periodically my user profile becomes
> corrupted. I then need to create a brand new user, log in as that user, log
> out, log in as an adminstrator, copy all my old files from my defunct User
> directory into the new user's User directory (and this doesn't always work),
> then patch up my MSys and CMake etc. shell scripts and build scripts to
> match the new directory. This takes typically several hours. This has
> happened more than 3 times now... aaargh!
>
> Coupled with the general tediousness of maintaining the Windows installer
> build for Csound, I am very strongly tempted to remove Windows from all of
> my computers and from my life in favor of Linux, which in my experience is
> not subject to this kind of problem. This of course would leave Csound
> without a maintainer for the Windows build and Windows installer unless
> somebody else steps up to the plate.
>
> Comments?
>
> I'd appreciate any helpful hints on faster ways of recovering correupted
> user profiles (but note I spent hours googling for such hints). If I have
> that, the problems of maintaining the Windows installer build become
> manageable. Perhaps I just need to create a restore point every so often...
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> ===========================
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
>

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