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Re: [Cs-dev] Ambisonic code

Date2008-07-18 17:52
From"Art Hunkins"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Ambisonic code
If there are significantly better and truer ambisonic opcodes to be had, I 
for one would be happy to redo my recent compositions to take advantage of 
them. For one thing, Victor's "kludge" of stereo ambisonics (granted, a most 
effective one) would hopefully no longer be required.

Can someone advise as to what sonic improvement results from the revisions?

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jpff" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Ambisonic code


>
>
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:17:42PM +0100, jpff wrote:
>>
>> > Just before i went on holiday I was provided with new ambisonic
>> > encode/decode sources from Richard Furse and Bruce Wiggins, checked by
>> > Fons.  As there are significant differences in arguments and
>> > functionality I have renamed these as bformenc1 and bformdec1, and
>> > checked them in.  I have not yet written the documentation as I was
>> > really meant to be on holiday not computing.....
>> >
>> > So, documentation is a day or so.  Better opcode names most welcome.
>> > ==John ffitch
>>
>> They are actually meant to be *replacements* for the current opcodes,
>> which are, to put it diplomatically, problematic. If we had wanted to
>> provide 'state of the art' opcodes or any new functionality they would
>> have looked rather different.
>
> I realise that they are really replacements, but the principle of never
> breaking existing pieces is important.  I woul;d rather not do a survey of
> all users on these opcodes.....  I would like better names though.
>
>>
>> The decoders should be functionally compatible with the existing ones.
>
> Except that there are less options.
>
>>
>> The only thing we did leave out are the per-order gain factors for the
>> encoding opcode, as this is definitely not the right place to apply
>> them. I you need a non-standard encoding (but we can't imagine why
>> you would) it is trivial to apply such gain factors in the orchestra
>> definition.
>>
>
> The negative inputs would fail as well.
>
>> If you really want to keep the old ones, at least put a note in their
>> docs that they have been replaced by a more correct implementation.
>>
>
> I was going to mark the originals as deprecated as soon as I had rehacked
> the documentation
>
> Sorry if this seems to underestimate your work; I am delighted that you
> have sorted out this area.  I would like to record a big thank you to you,
> and Richard and Barry, and all the others I failed to note.
>
> ==John ff
>
>
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Date2008-07-18 20:33
FromFons Adriaensen
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Ambisonic code
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Date2008-07-18 21:16
From"Steven Yi"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Ambisonic code
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Date2008-07-18 21:24
FromFons Adriaensen
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Ambisonic code
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