Re: [Cs-dev] tests and examples for Cs5

Date	2005-02-22 22:24
From	"Art Hunkins"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] tests and examples for Cs5
	Yes. And now I know that CsEdit is called a "GUI wrapper"! Learn something new every day here! Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Boulanger" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] tests and examples for Cs5 > David, > > Important to note is the fact that Art (and others) have found GUI wrappers > such as WinXsoundPro or Csedit to be important tools that make the > environment more produtive. > > Am I correct Art? Hope I am not speaking out of line for you. Tordini's > Editor is excellent as is WinXSoundPro that Gabriel recommends. > > Rick > > on 2/22/05 4:23 PM, Art Hunkins at abhunkin@uncg.edu wrote: > > > I've really been concerned about wildly differing command-line flags amongst > > the various Csound versions too. > > > > On the recent survey of real-time Csound I sent out, I toyed with the idea > > of asking for the flags each version used to call for various options - > > especially MIDI in and audio out. > > > > Unless we do all we can to standardize these flags, moving among versions > > and platforms will be a real hassle, and many will end up back in the > > fragmented Csound world in which we currently live. > > > > In this respect, I much appreciate Istvan's Csound5 change with respect to > > MIDI devices. > > > > BTW, Dave P., by "text mode" do you mean "console mode" - i.e., no GUI? If > > so, good question (I use CsEdit for Windows (Tordini), within which I can > > run console or GUI versions interchangeably; it's a non-issue there). > > > > Art Hunkins > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Phillips" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:33 AM > > Subject: [Cs-dev] tests and examples for Cs5 > > > > > >> Greetings: > >> > >> After reading Rick B's latest message re: Cs5 I started working on a > >> collection of files and examples for beginners in Cs5. I've completed > >> material for realtime audio, realtime MIDI, FLTK opcode usage, and > >> connecting to JACK. I intend to provide examples for plugin usage and > >> for adding new opcodes, and I will try to address Rick's other concerns > >> regarding example files. > >> > >> Btw, am I correct to assume that the majority of Csound users have > >> abandoned the use of text mode ? It certainly looks that way from here. > >> I consider this assumption to be a critical point, one that perhaps > >> should be discussed a little more thoroughly by the developers. > >> > >> Also, am I correct to assume that files written for MacCsound are > >> incompatible with CsoundAV and/or Winsound (and vice-versa) ? > >> > >> I have no idea what might be required to reconcile files from those > >> versions of Csound with Cs5 (or any other version of Csound). I cannot > >> supply flags and option switches for those platforms (many ofwhich have > >> been designed with no regard at all towards compatibility with Cs4), and > >> I invite any developers or users on those platforms to contribute the > >> needed flags/switches to the examples set. At this time I'm supplying > >> CsOptions only for Cs5 under Linux. > >> > >> To Dr. B: Rick, how did you try running Cs5 ? Your message was short > >> on details, and I need details. You didn't mention on what platform you > >> tried it, with what files you tested it, or with what options. As far as > >> examples go, I use your very own Trapped In Convert to test realtime > >> audio output, with these options: > >> > >> csound -+rtaudio=alsa -odac2 -d -m0 trappedrt.csd > >> > >> Actually I can dispense with the -+rtaudio switch, it's already defined > >> in my $CSRTAUDIO setting. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> dp > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > >> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > >> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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Start reading now. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > _______________________________________________________________________ > + Dr. Richard Boulanger, Professor > + Music Synthesis Department, Berklee College of Music > + 1140 Boylston Street - Boston, MA 02215-3693 > + Office Phone: (617) 747-2485 Office Fax: (617) 747-2564 > + eMail: rboulanger@csounds.com or rboulanger@berklee.edu > + WebPage: http://csounds.com/boulanger/ > ________________________________________________________________________ > + Almost Everything Csound @ http://csounds.com/ > + The Csound Catalog with Audio @ http://csounds.com/catalog/ > + The Csound Book @ http://csounds.com/book/ > + The Csound Magazine @ http://csounds.com/ezine/ > + CsoundForums @ http://csounds.com/phpBB2/ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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Date	2005-02-22 22:29
From	"Richard Boulanger"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] tests and examples for Cs5
	Art, I don't know that they are officially referred to as GUI wrappers, but I like to think of them that way. Rick on 2/22/05 5:24 PM, Art Hunkins at abhunkin@uncg.edu wrote: > Yes. > > And now I know that CsEdit is called a "GUI wrapper"! > > Learn something new every day here! > > Art Hunkins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Boulanger" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] tests and examples for Cs5 > > >> David, >> >> Important to note is the fact that Art (and others) have found GUI > wrappers >> such as WinXsoundPro or Csedit to be important tools that make the >> environment more produtive. >> >> Am I correct Art? Hope I am not speaking out of line for you. Tordini's >> Editor is excellent as is WinXSoundPro that Gabriel recommends. >> >> Rick >> >> on 2/22/05 4:23 PM, Art Hunkins at abhunkin@uncg.edu wrote: >> >>> I've really been concerned about wildly differing command-line flags > amongst >>> the various Csound versions too. >>> >>> On the recent survey of real-time Csound I sent out, I toyed with the > idea >>> of asking for the flags each version used to call for various options - >>> especially MIDI in and audio out. >>> >>> Unless we do all we can to standardize these flags, moving among > versions >>> and platforms will be a real hassle, and many will end up back in the >>> fragmented Csound world in which we currently live. >>> >>> In this respect, I much appreciate Istvan's Csound5 change with respect > to >>> MIDI devices. >>> >>> BTW, Dave P., by "text mode" do you mean "console mode" - i.e., no GUI? > If >>> so, good question (I use CsEdit for Windows (Tordini), within which I > can >>> run console or GUI versions interchangeably; it's a non-issue there). >>> >>> Art Hunkins >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dave Phillips" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:33 AM >>> Subject: [Cs-dev] tests and examples for Cs5 >>> >>> >>>> Greetings: >>>> >>>> After reading Rick B's latest message re: Cs5 I started working on a >>>> collection of files and examples for beginners in Cs5. I've completed >>>> material for realtime audio, realtime MIDI, FLTK opcode usage, and >>>> connecting to JACK. I intend to provide examples for plugin usage and >>>> for adding new opcodes, and I will try to address Rick's other concerns >>>> regarding example files. >>>> >>>> Btw, am I correct to assume that the majority of Csound users have >>>> abandoned the use of text mode ? It certainly looks that way from here. >>>> I consider this assumption to be a critical point, one that perhaps >>>> should be discussed a little more thoroughly by the developers. >>>> >>>> Also, am I correct to assume that files written for MacCsound are >>>> incompatible with CsoundAV and/or Winsound (and vice-versa) ? >>>> >>>> I have no idea what might be required to reconcile files from those >>>> versions of Csound with Cs5 (or any other version of Csound). I cannot >>>> supply flags and option switches for those platforms (many ofwhich have >>>> been designed with no regard at all towards compatibility with Cs4), > and >>>> I invite any developers or users on those platforms to contribute the >>>> needed flags/switches to the examples set. At this time I'm supplying >>>> CsOptions only for Cs5 under Linux. >>>> >>>> To Dr. B: Rick, how did you try running Cs5 ? Your message was short >>>> on details, and I need details. You didn't mention on what platform you >>>> tried it, with what files you tested it, or with what options. As far > as >>>> examples go, I use your very own Trapped In Convert to test realtime >>>> audio output, with these options: >>>> >>>> csound -+rtaudio=alsa -odac2 -d -m0 trappedrt.csd >>>> >>>> Actually I can dispense with the -+rtaudio switch, it's already defined >>>> in my $CSRTAUDIO setting. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> dp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>>> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. >>>> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >>>> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >>> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >>> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> + Dr. Richard Boulanger, Professor >> + Music Synthesis Department, Berklee College of Music >> + 1140 Boylston Street - Boston, MA 02215-3693 >> + Office Phone: (617) 747-2485 Office Fax: (617) 747-2564 >> + eMail: rboulanger@csounds.com or rboulanger@berklee.edu >> + WebPage: http://csounds.com/boulanger/ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> + Almost Everything Csound @ http://csounds.com/ >> + The Csound Catalog with Audio @ http://csounds.com/catalog/ >> + The Csound Book @ http://csounds.com/book/ >> + The Csound Magazine @ http://csounds.com/ezine/ >> + CsoundForums @ http://csounds.com/phpBB2/ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel _______________________________________________________________________ + Dr. Richard Boulanger, Professor + Music Synthesis Department, Berklee College of Music + 1140 Boylston Street - Boston, MA 02215-3693 + Office Phone: (617) 747-2485 Office Fax: (617) 747-2564 + eMail: rboulanger@csounds.com or rboulanger@berklee.edu + WebPage: http://csounds.com/boulanger/ ________________________________________________________________________ + Almost Everything Csound @ http://csounds.com/ + The Csound Catalog with Audio @ http://csounds.com/catalog/ + The Csound Book @ http://csounds.com/book/ + The Csound Magazine @ http://csounds.com/ezine/ + CsoundForums @ http://csounds.com/phpBB2/ ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. 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