Well, I have Csound building here, but would not like to contemplate making an
installer, because I think this just might disrupt things.

At 16:44 14/02/2008, you wrote:
>At this point, I don't have a functioning MinGW toolchain for Csound on my 
>computer -- it was by trying to upgrade it in order to build 5.08 that I 
>found the newer version doesn't work, and that is why I am switching to MSVC.
>
>Obviously I have a choice between reverting to the old version of the 
>MinGW toolchain and trying to get the MSVC build working. I have chosen 
>the latter option. I have no desire to put time into rebuilding a 
>toolchain that I probably will not use more than once.
>
>If you want to try it yourself, go ahead. I'll quickly answer any 
>questions you have.
>
>Regards,
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: Victor Lazzarini 
> >Sent: Feb 14, 2008 11:11 AM
> >To: Developer discussions 
> >Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] What is state of 5.08beta?
> >
> >I agree.
> >
> >At 14:57 14/02/2008, you wrote:
> >>Since there is much work left, doesn't it make sense to release 5.08 
> with the
> >>old toolchain and move to MSVC for 5.09? After all the idea of a beta is
> >>a "feature freeze": only bug fixes are supposed to go, isn't it?
> >>
> >>On Thursday 14 February 2008 10:57:42 Michael Gogins wrote:
> >> > I am still working to port the 5.08 SConstruct for Windows to Microsoft
> >> > Visual C++ (MSVC) instead of MinGW/MSys.
> >> >
> >> > As I mentioned before, I am doing this because the version of the
> >> > MinGW/MSys toolchain that builds Csound is getting quite old, and newer
> >> > versions of that toolchain do NOT build Csound with everything that goes
> >> > into the Windows installer.
> >> >
> >> > I am working on this every evening, and it is proceeding apace. No
> >> > show-stoppers yet. However, there is considerably more work than I had
> >> > anticipated, because the SWIG step for the various interfaces is 
> much less
> >> > forgiving with MSVC than it was with the MinGW/MSys toolchain. Also, the
> >> > MSVS system is less Unix-like (no dirent.h, for example) and that will
> >> > require changes or workarounds in some code.
> >> >
> >> > Once I get everything building, enough has changed that there may be
> >> > considerable debugging required.
> >> >
> >> > I expect that getting a working Windows installer built with MSVC could
> >> > take another 1-3 weeks.
> >> >
> >> > I continue to feel that moving to MSVC will probably turn out to be 
> a very
> >> > desirable step. Microsoft still seems committed to giving away their
> >> > high-quality compiler, editor, and debugger. The only pre-requisite 
> library
> >> > that does not now come with a Visual Studio build system is liblo. 
> Ordinary
> >> > Windows programmers with MSVC will find Csound with MSVC libraries much
> >> > easier to program to. In particular they will not need to make their own
> >> > import libraries, and will be able to link with all of Csound's C++
> >> > interfaces. All of the C interfaces in DLLS and the C++ interface in
> >> > csound.hpp will continue to be usable without change from MinGW.
> >> >
> >> > The main unanswered question in my mind is performance. Which runs 
> faster
> >> > -- MSVC or MinGW? I am guessing they are pretty close. We will see. If
> >> > MinGW turns out to be considerably faster I will revisit the MinGW/MSys
> >> > toolchain.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >
> >> > >From: jpff 
> >> > >Sent: Feb 14, 2008 2:33 AM
> >> > >To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> > >Subject: [Cs-dev] What is state of 5.08beta?
> >> > >
> >> > >I have been doing other stuff, but has much changed in the sources?  I
> >> > >am assuming that we still need a Windows version before we can move to
> >> > >a real release.  I was wondering if there needs to be a gap after the
> >> > >Windows system, or could we move to a real 5.08 immediately?
> >> > >==John ffitch
> >> > >
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