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Date2011-12-25 20:13
FromIain Duncan
Subject[Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
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Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not happening?

thanks
Iain

Date2011-12-25 21:10
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not experienced any issues.
On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not happening?
> 
> thanks
> Iain
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Date2011-12-25 21:31
FromIain Duncan
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
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I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:

csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco

very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then I kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird because I can't figure out why it sometimes happens. 

thanks
Iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not experienced any issues.
On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not happening?
>
> thanks
> Iain
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Date2011-12-25 21:46
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
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Well, I never had that problem. Just tested it now again.
The code has all the tidy up bits.

Victor

On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:31, Iain Duncan wrote:

I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:

csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco

very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then I kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird because I can't fi gure out why it sometimes happens. 

thanks
Iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not experienced any issues.
On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not happening?
>
> thanks
> Iain
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Date2011-12-25 21:50
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
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This is the jack I'm using:

coltrane:csound5-double victor$ jackd -V
jackdmp 1.9.7.1
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
jackdmp version 1.9.7.1 tmpdir /tmp protocol 8


Victor


On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:46, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

Well, I never had that problem. Just tested it now again.
The code has all the tidy up bits.

Victor

On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:31, Iain Duncan wrote:

I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:

csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco

very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then I kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird because I can't figure out why it sometimes happens. 

thanks
Iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not experienced any issues.
On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not happening?
>
> thanks
> Iain
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Date2011-12-25 22:53
FromIain Duncan
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
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Thanks Victor, are you using it command line then, with command line csound? Maybe it's a qjackctl problem I'm having.

Iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
This is the jack I'm using:

coltrane:csound5-double victor$ jackd -V
jackdmp 1.9.7.1
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
jackdmp version 1.9.7.1 tmpdir /tmp protocol 8


Victor


On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:46, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

Well, I never had that problem. Just tested it now again.
The code has all the tidy up bits.

Victor

On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:31, Iain Duncan wrote:

I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:

csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco

very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then I kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird because I can't figure out why it sometimes happens. 

thanks
Iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not experienced any issues.
On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not happening?
>
> thanks
> Iain
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date2011-12-25 23:10
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
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I don't think it matters. But maybe you see if it's to do with realtime scheduling in jack. 

Victor
On 25 Dec 2011, at 22:53, Iain Duncan wrote:

Thanks Victor, are you using it command line then, with command line csound? Maybe it's a qjackctl problem I'm having.

Iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
This is the jack I'm using:

coltrane:csound5-double victor$ jackd -V
jackdmp 1.9.7.1
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
jackdmp version 1.9.7.1 tmpdir /tmp protocol 8


Victor


On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:46, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

Well, I never had that problem. Just tested it now again.
The code has all the tidy up bits.

Victor

On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:31, Iain Duncan wrote:

I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:

csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco

very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then I kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird because I can't figure out why it sometimes happens. 

thanks
Iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not experienced any issues.
On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not happening?
>
> thanks
> Iain
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Date2011-12-26 03:55
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
Yeah I've used Jack and Csound together extensively on OS X and not a
single problem so far.

P

On 25 December 2011 23:10, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> I don't think it matters. But maybe you see if it's to do with realtime
> scheduling in jack.
>
> Victor
> On 25 Dec 2011, at 22:53, Iain Duncan wrote:
>
> Thanks Victor, are you using it command line then, with command line csound?
> Maybe it's a qjackctl problem I'm having.
>
> Iain
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Victor Lazzarini 
> wrote:
>>
>> This is the jack I'm using:
>>
>> coltrane:csound5-double victor$ jackd -V
>> jackdmp 1.9.7.1
>> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
>> Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
>> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
>> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>> jackdmp version 1.9.7.1 tmpdir /tmp protocol 8
>>
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>> On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:46, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>> Well, I never had that problem. Just tested it now again.
>> The code has all the tidy up bits.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:31, Iain Duncan wrote:
>>
>> I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:
>>
>> csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco
>>
>> very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score
>> with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then I
>> kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird
>> because I can't figure out why it sometimes happens.
>>
>> thanks
>> Iain
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not
>>> experienced any issues.
>>> On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:
>>>
>>> > Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down
>>> > the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but
>>> > iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill
>>> > the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more
>>> > about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one
>>> > else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of
>>> > housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not
>>> > happening?
>>> >
>>> > thanks
>>> > Iain
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> >
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>>>
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Date2011-12-26 05:10
FromIain Duncan
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
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Peiman, what kind of latencies are you getting on os x and is it good as far as scheluding the audio above the gui? I have a hackintosh install for this machine too, but haven't tried csound/jack on it. Great to hear that's working well.

thanks
iain

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:55 PM, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah I've used Jack and Csound together extensively on OS X and not a
single problem so far.

P

On 25 December 2011 23:10, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
> I don't think it matters. But maybe you see if it's to do with realtime
> scheduling in jack.
>
> Victor
> On 25 Dec 2011, at 22:53, Iain Duncan wrote:
>
> Thanks Victor, are you using it command line then, with command line csound?
> Maybe it's a qjackctl problem I'm having.
>
> Iain
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>
> wrote:
>>
>> This is the jack I'm using:
>>
>> coltrane:csound5-double victor$ jackd -V
>> jackdmp 1.9.7.1
>> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
>> Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
>> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
>> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>> jackdmp version 1.9.7.1 tmpdir /tmp protocol 8
>>
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>> On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:46, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>> Well, I never had that problem. Just tested it now again.
>> The code has all the tidy up bits.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:31, Iain Duncan wrote:
>>
>> I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:
>>
>> csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco
>>
>> very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score
>> with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then I
>> kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird
>> because I can't figure out why it sometimes happens.
>>
>> thanks
>> Iain
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not
>>> experienced any issues.
>>> On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:
>>>
>>> > Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down
>>> > the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but
>>> > iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have to kill
>>> > the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone knows more
>>> > about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if no one
>>> > else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is a bit of
>>> > housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps that's not
>>> > happening?
>>> >
>>> > thanks
>>> > Iain
>>> >
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> Senior Lecturer
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>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date2011-12-26 12:14
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound crashes jack, *a lot*
Hi Iain,

I have quite a high latency due to really large buffer sizes (2048),
as high as I can go because the spectral processes would otherwise not
run with everything else (reaper) open too. The csd's that I was using
for this didn't have any GUI though.

Best,

Peiman

On 26 December 2011 05:10, Iain Duncan  wrote:
> Peiman, what kind of latencies are you getting on os x and is it good as far
> as scheluding the audio above the gui? I have a hackintosh install for this
> machine too, but haven't tried csound/jack on it. Great to hear that's
> working well.
>
> thanks
> iain
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:55 PM, peiman khosravi 
> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah I've used Jack and Csound together extensively on OS X and not a
>> single problem so far.
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 25 December 2011 23:10, Victor Lazzarini 
>> wrote:
>> > I don't think it matters. But maybe you see if it's to do with realtime
>> > scheduling in jack.
>> >
>> > Victor
>> > On 25 Dec 2011, at 22:53, Iain Duncan wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Victor, are you using it command line then, with command line
>> > csound?
>> > Maybe it's a qjackctl problem I'm having.
>> >
>> > Iain
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This is the jack I'm using:
>> >>
>> >> coltrane:csound5-double victor$ jackd -V
>> >> jackdmp 1.9.7.1
>> >> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
>> >> Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
>> >> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>> >> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
>> >> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>> >> jackdmp version 1.9.7.1 tmpdir /tmp protocol 8
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Victor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:46, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I never had that problem. Just tested it now again.
>> >> The code has all the tidy up bits.
>> >>
>> >> Victor
>> >>
>> >> On 25 Dec 2011, at 21:31, Iain Duncan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I use qjack control, and it seems like when I do:
>> >>
>> >> csound -+rtaudio=jack -b128 -B256 -d -m0 myorc.orc mysco.sco
>> >>
>> >> very frequently jack gets zombified. Sometimes when I cut off the score
>> >> with Control-C and sometimes even when the score plays to the end. Then
>> >> I
>> >> kill my jack processes, restart jack, and all is well again. It's weird
>> >> because I can't figure out why it sometimes happens.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >> Iain
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you mean the jack IO module? I have used it quite a lot and not
>> >>> experienced any issues.
>> >>> On 25 Dec 2011, at 20:13, Iain Duncan wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Just wondering if anyone knows why using csound with jack takes down
>> >>> > the jack server so easily? It's totally fine when it's playing, but
>> >>> > iterrupting a performance with Cntr-C hangs jack and I actually have
>> >>> > to kill
>> >>> > the jack processes and start them up again. Wondering if anyone
>> >>> > knows more
>> >>> > about what's up there? Perhaps it's something I can fix in csound if
>> >>> > no one
>> >>> > else is using csound with jack much. I know for jack host, there is
>> >>> > a bit of
>> >>> > housekeeping one is supposed to do before terminating, perhaps
>> >>> > that's not
>> >>> > happening?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > thanks
>> >>> > Iain
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> > Write once. Port to many.
>> >>> > Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development.
>> >>> > Create
>> >>> > new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore
>> >>> > the
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>> >>>
>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> >>> Senior Lecturer
>> >>> Dept. of Music
>> >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
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>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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