[Csnd-dev] Daisy build info
| Date | 2025-09-08 15:47 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
The README file in Daisy says "To build libcsound.a from sources see BUILD.md in this directory." But there is no BUILD.md in that directory.
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| Date | 2025-09-08 16:05 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
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Indeed, it was committed. It's in a PR now
But you don't need to build it yourself, just download the package from the latest release.
From: Csound-developers <CSOUND-DEV@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> on behalf of Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@GMAIL.COM>
Sent: Monday 8 September 2025 15:47 To: CSOUND-DEV@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE <CSOUND-DEV@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info *Warning*This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. The README file in Daisy says "To build libcsound.a from sources see BUILD.md in this directory." But there is no BUILD.md in that directory.
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| Date | 2025-09-08 16:06 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
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it wasn't committed, I meant! Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
On 8 Sep 2025, at 16:05, Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-08 16:58 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
Great, thank you! On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 11:06 AM Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-08 17:44 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
OK, I now have the Daisy toolchain installed, and the latest Csound develop. Following the instruction, I navigate to the build dir and execute cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../Daisy -DCUSTOM_CMAKE=../Daisy/Custom.cmake -DCMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=../Daisy/crosscompile.cmake this produces an error: -- Check for working C compiler: C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio/2019/Community/VC/Tools/MSVC/14.29.30133/bin/Hostx64/x64/cl.exe - broken CMake Error at C:/Program Files/CMake/share/cmake-3.24/Modules/CMakeTestCCompiler.cmake:69 (message): The C compiler "C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio/2019/Community/VC/Tools/MSVC/14.29.30133/bin/Hostx64/x64/cl.exe" is not able to compile a simple test program. It fails with the following output: Change Dir: C:/Users/daves/OneDrive/Documents/GitHub/csound/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp Run Build Command(s):C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio/2019/Community/MSBuild/Current/Bin/MSBuild.exe cmTC_3462b.vcxproj /p:Configuration=Debug /p:Platform=x64 /p:VisualStudioVersion=16.0 /v:m && Microsoft (R) Build Engine version 16.11.6+a918ceb31 for .NET Framework Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 19.29.30159 for x64 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. cl /c /Wall /WX- /diagnostics:column /O2 /D _MBCS /D NO_SERIAL_OPCODES /D "CMAKE_INTDIR=\"Debug\"" /Gm- /MD /GS /fp:precise /Zc:wchar_t /Zc:forScope /Zc:inline /Fo"cmTC_3462b.dir\Debug\\" /Fd"C:\Users\daves\OneDrive\Documents\GitHub\csound\build\CMakeFiles\CMakeTmp\Debug\libcmTC_3462b.pdb" /external:W4 /Gd /TC /errorReport:queue -mcpu=cortex-m7 -mfpu=fpv5-d16 -mfloat-abi=hard -mthumb -fno-builtin -fno-exceptions -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -Wno-attributes -Wno-strict-aliasing -Wno-maybe-uninitialized -Wno-missing-attributes -Wno-stringop-overflow -std=gnu99 C:\Users\daves\OneDrive\Documents\GitHub\csound\build\CMakeFiles\CMakeTmp\testCCompiler.c cl : command line error D8021: invalid numeric argument '/Wno-attributes' [C:\Users\daves\OneDrive\Documents\GitHub\csound\build\CMakeFiles\CMakeTmp\cmTC_3462b.vcxproj] So apparently it is passing gcc options to the MSVC compiler. What do I need to do to get it to use the Daisy toolchain instead? On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 11:58 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-08 17:46 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
The toolchain does seem to be in the path, since I can execute "arm-none-eabi-gcc.exe -v" without errors. On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 12:44 PM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-08 17:50 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
Looking at crtosscompile.cmake, I see SET(CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH /usr/arm-none-eabi /usr/lib/arm-none-eabi) which suggests that maybe this has never been used on Windows. On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 12:46 PM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-08 18:25 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
I guess I can hopefully just use the arm-cortex-m7 build in the beta release. I still have to work out how I'm going to work with Daisy. I have three Noise Engineering Eurorack modules that are based on Daisy Seed, so I should try working with one of those first (probably Alia). I plan to start by adapting the Risset Harmonic Oscillator and the Binaural Reanimator designs that I made for the Qu-Bit Nebulae. It will probably be a while until I have anything to show/share.... On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 12:50 PM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-08 20:07 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
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We don't have Windows to test, only macosx/linux. However, I'd say you can edit these paths if you need to.
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
On 8 Sep 2025, at 17:50, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-08 20:11 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
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yes, the binary should work regardless of the host. You'll need to place it and the headers where your crosscompiler can find it.
Looking forward to seeing your projects.
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
On 8 Sep 2025, at 18:26, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-09 19:37 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
OK, I have DaisyExamples and was able to run rebuild_all.sh (at a git bash prompt. I then copied in the CsoundDaisyExamples folder as well as the lib and include from the latest Csound build. Then I went into the DaisyCsoundGenerative folder and ran make. Got this error: c:/program files (x86)/gnu arm embedded toolchain/10 2020-q4-major/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-eabi/10.2.1/../../../../arm-none-eabi/bin/ld.exe: cannot open linker script file /c/Users/daves/OneDrive/Documents/GitHub/DaisyExamples/DaisyCsoundExamples/DaisyCsoundGenerative/../STM32H750IB_qspi_custom.lds: No such file or directory collect2.exe: error: ld returned 1 exit status Is there some other required dependency that isn't documented? On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 3:11 PM Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-09 20:07 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
OK, I see that file now, but don't understand yet why it isn't being found. On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 2:37 PM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 06:50 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
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Maybe it's one of those Windows vs unix path issues in the toolchain. If you can see what the linker command is, then you might be able to diagnose it.
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
On 9 Sep 2025, at 20:07, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 13:27 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
Yes, I will hopefully be able to figure it out. As I mentioned, I'm using Git Bash as a shell (as recommended by Electro-Smith, and which worked for rebuilding all their examples), which generally does a good job with path translation, so maybe it will just be some small adjustment. On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 1:50 AM Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 16:19 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
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The other thing could be to use the linux subsystem.
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
On 10 Sep 2025, at 13:27, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 16:37 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
I may try that if I can't get it to work this way, but I think I need to install something additional to get WSL to usr USB. Hoping to get to this later today. On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:19 AM Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 18:04 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
Easy fix in Makefile: # Use Bootloader v5.4 # Use Custom Linker Script Interesting, since the path used in the command expands to
which is valid and works when tested using ls. So I can't explain why it failed, but also it seems to me that the change I made locally should work on other systems as well, assuming that make is executed in the directory of the example being built, per the instructions. BTW, I haven't tried to test the binary yet, because both Daisy Seeds I have are part of Noise Engineering Eurorack modules, but when I have time I will try to modify the code to work with one of these modules (which are officially supported in libDaisy). On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:37 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 18:23 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
I went ahead and loaded the Csound generative example firmware onto the Seed on the Versio, and it works! Of course the controls have no effect, but there is audio output that sounds correct! And just as importantly, I was able to reinstall one of the module's official firmwares. So I feel that I'm off to a good start. On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 1:04 PM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 20:20 |
| From | Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
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yes, that change works fine. I've used that for other projects.
Is there any significant changes to the instructions for Windows? It's great that we have it being built across the major host platforms.
besst
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
On 10 Sep 2025, at 18:28, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-10 20:42 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
I think the crucial thing I discovered is that Windows developers must use Git Bash as their shell. This may also work to build the Csound lib for the Daisy platform -- I'll try that and let you know. At some point I'll also try it using WSL and see if it will work -- it will at the very least require installation of a third-party tool that allows WSL to access USB ports on the host machine, but it's free and also documented by Microsoft. Should I make a PR for that change (to all the DaisyCsound example Makefiles)? I can do that tomorrow if you like. On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 3:20 PM Victor Lazzarini <000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-11 16:45 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
Makefile and README changes On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 3:42 PM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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| Date | 2025-09-11 17:30 |
| From | Dave Seidel |
| Subject | Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] Daisy build info |
I have no idea why the branch build is failing with these seeming trivial changes. Is there something else I need to do to get the branch configured properly? On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 11:45 AM Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
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