The problem with plugins is that the API will definitely change, so I am not sure what is the best way to go forward.

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Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 9 Nov 2022, at 11:11, Hlöðver Sigurðsson  wrote:
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> I'm wondering as I'm creating a nix expression for csound-7 with the plugins, if we should start using api version 7 by default, or by a cmake flag? Currently it's set to 6 and write on osx to Library/csound/6.0/plugins64
> 
> https://github.com/csound/plugins/blob/develop/CMakeLists.txt#L13

CMake flag would make sense to me for short term (i.e., check if the
user has set APIVERSION on commandline and only default to 6.0 if it
isn't set). That'll work for short-term, but longer term there'll
probably be a significant break at some point that requires modifying
code in the plugins. At that point, might need to make a csound6
branch for the plugins (mirroring what we have in csound repo)

On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 6:12 AM Hlöðver Sigurðsson  wrote:
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> I'm wondering as I'm creating a nix expression for csound-7 with the plugins, if we should start using api version 7 by default, or by a cmake flag? Currently it's set to 6 and write on osx to Library/csound/6.0/plugins64
>
> https://github.com/csound/plugins/blob/develop/CMakeLists.txt#L13



I don't see a problem with breaking compatibility while developing csound7, it would just mean that it's required to rebuild the plugins along with csound7's breaking changes?

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 14:30, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

The API changes will have to come at the end, so we don't know yet.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 9 Nov 2022, at 12:53, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:



maybe first commit those changes in csound7 (develop), or have these api changes been implemented?

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 12:32, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

The problem with plugins is that the API will definitely change, so I am not sure what is the best way to go forward.

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Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 9 Nov 2022, at 11:11, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> WARNINGThis email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> I'm wondering as I'm creating a nix expression for csound-7 with the plugins, if we should start using api version 7 by default, or by a cmake flag? Currently it's set to 6 and write on osx to Library/csound/6.0/plugins64
>
> https://github.com/csound/plugins/blob/develop/CMakeLists.txt#L13



then Steven's suggestion is a good one, building csound7 plugins will be non-default (defaulting to csound6), controlled with a flag. Breaking the plugins will be good to know earlier than later.

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 14:53, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

The only thing I worry is that things will change and then the plugins will not work anymore. 

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 9 Nov 2022, at 13:35, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:



I don't see a problem with breaking compatibility while developing csound7, it would just mean that it's required to rebuild the plugins along with csound7's breaking changes?

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 14:30, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

The API changes will have to come at the end, so we don't know yet.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

On 9 Nov 2022, at 12:53, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@gmail.com> wrote:



maybe first commit those changes in csound7 (develop), or have these api changes been implemented?

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 12:32, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

The problem with plugins is that the API will definitely change, so I am not sure what is the best way to go forward.

========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 9 Nov 2022, at 11:11, Hlöðver Sigurðsson <hlolli@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> WARNINGThis email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> I'm wondering as I'm creating a nix expression for csound-7 with the plugins, if we should start using api version 7 by default, or by a cmake flag? Currently it's set to 6 and write on osx to Library/csound/6.0/plugins64
>
> https://github.com/csound/plugins/blob/develop/CMakeLists.txt#L13