[Cs-dev]

Date	2006-10-27 21:23
From	Piché Jean
Subject	[Cs-dev]
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	Richard, Aren't you doing your tests on a Linux machine? You'd be saving yourself a lot of headaches since OLPC runs Fedora and all graphics will be GTK. Remember that Csound on OLPC is set up to run as a python based server. Our keyboard is python and fully configurable. It makes no sense to interface with it from a different toolkit. I will strongly argue that csound on the OLPC should be stripped down to the max, meaning no fltk and hardly any plugins. The machine is tiny. Unofrtunately, GTK does not run on OSX (well.. it sort of runs but its complicated to setup) Has the beta-1 release been pushed back? If so, we may be able to package it so you can use it on this release. j -------- Message d'origine-------- De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la part de Dr. Richard Boulanger Date: ven. 27/10/2006 16:07 À: Developer discussions Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE : RE : FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi Driver I would love your help getting it to run with your universal orchestra on my mac - for testing, and then on the OLPC machine - to include with some samples - with this release if you would like to assist. Rick On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Piché Jean wrote: > > > actually.. you dont. > The keyboard we have runs independently of TamTam. > > > -------- Message d'origine-------- > De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la part de Dr. > Richard Boulanger > Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:53 > À: Developer discussions > Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE : FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi Driver > > We need both for OLPC. > > On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Piché Jean wrote: > >> >> >> Maybe I am missing something here. We have a perfectly functioning >> ASCII keyboard, fully mapped to the universal.csd that will be used >> on the OLPC for TamTam. The sources are available and it even has a >> cute little interface for choosing instruments. Aren't we working >> at cross-purposes here? I really dont understand why its necessary >> to fight with FLTK if the idea is to have something working on the >> OLPC.. we already have it... >> >> j >> >> >> >> >> -------- Message d'origine-------- >> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la part de Dr. >> Richard Boulanger >> Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:43 >> À: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie; Developer discussions >> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi Driver >> >> I agree that it would be wonderful to play the keyboard from the >> ascii keyboard as well. >> >> -dB >> >> Also, while you are at it. Can you make the keyboard called by >> default if an actual hardware device is not found? >> >> -M0 - no device found - means to substiture -+rtmidi=virtual >> >> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: >> >>> On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any other >>> FLTK window, graph or widgets together. >>> >>> Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard >>> so that we can play from the computer keyboard? >>> It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK. >>> >>> Victor >>> >>>> >>>> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but only >>>> when running a project where FLTK widgets are not there >>>> on Linux. So FLTK is funny all around! :P >>>> >>>> steven >>>> >>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini >>>>> wrote: I only tested with an instrument that used fltk >>>>> widgets. The interaction between the two seems to >>>>> be the problem. But Dr. B seems to get it to run, >>>>> I presume without using widgets. >>>>> >>>>> FLTK is funny on OSX. >>>>> >>>>> However, linux is very good: both widgets and keyboard >>>>> work impeccably. >>>>> >>>>> Victor >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Victor, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your feedback! I've been racking by brain >>>>>> trying to debug this thing to make it run reliably but >>>>>> have to say that I'm not all that versed in FLTK as >>>>>> well as C calling C++ code, so any help in those >>>>>> regards from anyone would be very much appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I haven't >>>>>> figured out what in the code is causing that, as to me >>>>>> the code looks like it's doing the right thing. The >>>>>> keyboard itself only records the note-on when it turns >>>>>> on as well as note-offs, and the MIDI driver part >>>>>> reads and clears back to zero after using it. Perhaps >>>>>> there's a threading issue somewhere though, I'll keep >>>>> looking. > >>>>>> As for unstable, could you describe it a bit? Is it >>>>>> window redrawing issues, notes not playing? (Any info >>>>>> here would help to diagnose what's going on). >>>>>> >>>>>> I was also running this with valgrind and it seems >>>>>> there is a memory leak somewhere, but for the life of >>>>>> me I can't see where it'd possibly leak memory. It >>>>>> reports something going on in sensMIDI and the midi >>>>>> reading function, but even with everything compiled to >>>>>> debug it has ????'s in the stack trace it gives, so >>>>>> it's been very hard for me to find. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks though for your time to check it out! I'll >>>>>> keep on with it to see if I can make any more >>>>> progress. > >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> steven >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>> wrote: actually I got it >>>>>>> working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a little >>>>>> unstable. > >>>>>>> At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote: >>>>>>>> working here on Linux. But some of the lower notes >>>>>>> seem to >be hanging (might be my own isntrument >>>>>>> though) > >>>>>>>> At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've just checked in a project I was working on >>>>>>>> which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi driver. >>>>>>>> It's written as a plugin midi driver >and if you >>>>>>>> run csound using: > >>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual -M0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop up >>>>>>>> that looks like a >piano keyboard. Using the >>>>>>>> keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up >will >>>>>>>> fire off MIDI notes. This should be useful in >>>>>> situations where >you don't have a real MIDI device >>>>>>>> available (testing an orch, when >you're on the >>>>>>>> road, etc.) > >>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if others here can update from >>>>>>>> CVS and give it a >try. There is one bug in >>>>>>>> particular which I have been having a hard >time >>>>>>>> diagnosing. It seems that if you run the keyboard >>>>>> either with >--displays or not and the CSD has no FLTK >>>>>>>> widgets, the keyboard window >will eat up CPU (on >>>>>>>> Linux here, the xorg process takes up a lot of >>>>>>>>> it). Any help with that would be greatly >>>>>>>> appreciated. > >Also, I haven't had a chance to >>>>>>>> run on OSX or Windows myself, so any >reports on >>>>>>>> that would be great. > >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> steven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> ---------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do >>>>>> more? Need to support web services, security? >Get >>>> stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make >>>>>>>> your job easier >>>>>>>>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 >>>>>>>> based on Apache Geronimo >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=26 >>>>>>>> 3057&dat=121642 >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini >Music Technology Laboratory >>>>>>>> Music Department >>>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> ---------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? >>>>>> Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff >>>> done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your >>>>>>> job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application >>>>>>> Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=26 >>>>>>> 3057&dat=121642 >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory >>>>>>> Music Department >>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> --------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? >>>>>> Need to support web services, security? 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Date	2006-10-27 23:05
From	"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev]
	There might be another week before the OLPC Beta-1 is completely frozen. They are pushing us hard - and we have some nice things. But... they are not ready - so we keep improving and organizing and adding little bits. Definitely we have until Monday. No I am not testing on a Linux machine. You might be surprised at how much is running well on this OLPC machine. We are just trying to get some decent demos out the door with this release that kids can play with - buttons and knobs. Just kidding but... I would love to try Cecilia on here next week (and I may actually.) Barry is singing with his newly release harmon2 opcode!!! Sounding great. OK... maybe I've been working a little too long. It is sounding quite nicely in tune. That's harmon2 running at 44.1k with not clicks and pops. Wishing you all the best. Richard On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:23 PM, Piché Jean wrote: > > > Richard, > > Aren't you doing your tests on a Linux machine? You'd be saving > yourself a lot of headaches since OLPC runs Fedora and all graphics > will be GTK. Remember that Csound on OLPC is set up to run as a > python based server. Our keyboard is python and fully configurable. > It makes no sense to interface with it from a different toolkit. I > will strongly argue that csound on the OLPC should be stripped down > to the max, meaning no fltk and hardly any plugins. The machine is > tiny. > > Unofrtunately, GTK does not run on OSX (well.. it sort of runs but > its complicated to setup) > > Has the beta-1 release been pushed back? If so, we may be able to > package it so you can use it on this release. > > j > > > -------- Message d'origine-------- > De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la part de Dr. > Richard Boulanger > Date: ven. 27/10/2006 16:07 > À: Developer discussions > Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE : RE : FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi Driver > > I would love your help getting it to run with your universal > orchestra on my mac - for testing, > and then on the OLPC machine - to include with some samples - with > this release if you would > like to assist. > > Rick > > On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Piché Jean wrote: > >> >> >> actually.. you dont. >> The keyboard we have runs independently of TamTam. >> >> >> -------- Message d'origine-------- >> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la part de Dr. >> Richard Boulanger >> Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:53 >> À: Developer discussions >> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] RE : FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi Driver >> >> We need both for OLPC. >> >> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:47 PM, Piché Jean wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Maybe I am missing something here. We have a perfectly functioning >>> ASCII keyboard, fully mapped to the universal.csd that will be used >>> on the OLPC for TamTam. The sources are available and it even has a >>> cute little interface for choosing instruments. Aren't we working >>> at cross-purposes here? I really dont understand why its necessary >>> to fight with FLTK if the idea is to have something working on the >>> OLPC.. we already have it... >>> >>> j >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Message d'origine-------- >>> De: csound-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net de la part de Dr. >>> Richard Boulanger >>> Date: ven. 27/10/2006 15:43 >>> À: Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie; Developer discussions >>> Objet : Re: [Cs-dev] FLTK Virtual Keyboard Midi Driver >>> >>> I agree that it would be wonderful to play the keyboard from the >>> ascii keyboard as well. >>> >>> -dB >>> >>> Also, while you are at it. Can you make the keyboard called by >>> default if an actual hardware device is not found? >>> >>> -M0 - no device found - means to substiture -+rtmidi=virtual >>> >>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: >>> >>>> On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any other >>>> FLTK window, graph or widgets together. >>>> >>>> Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard >>>> so that we can play from the computer keyboard? >>>> It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK. >>>> >>>> Victor >>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but only >>>>> when running a project where FLTK widgets are not there >>>>> on Linux. So FLTK is funny all around! :P >>>>> >>>>> steven >>>>> >>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini >>>>>> wrote: I only tested with an instrument that used fltk >>>>>> widgets. The interaction between the two seems to >>>>>> be the problem. But Dr. B seems to get it to run, >>>>>> I presume without using widgets. >>>>>> >>>>>> FLTK is funny on OSX. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, linux is very good: both widgets and keyboard >>>>>> work impeccably. >>>>>> >>>>>> Victor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Victor, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your feedback! I've been racking by brain >>>>>>> trying to debug this thing to make it run reliably but >>>>>>> have to say that I'm not all that versed in FLTK as >>>>>>> well as C calling C++ code, so any help in those >>>>>>> regards from anyone would be very much appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I haven't >>>>>>> figured out what in the code is causing that, as to me >>>>>>> the code looks like it's doing the right thing. The >>>>>>> keyboard itself only records the note-on when it turns >>>>>>> on as well as note-offs, and the MIDI driver part >>>>>>> reads and clears back to zero after using it. Perhaps >>>>>>> there's a threading issue somewhere though, I'll keep >>>>>> looking. > >>>>>>> As for unstable, could you describe it a bit? Is it >>>>>>> window redrawing issues, notes not playing? (Any info >>>>>>> here would help to diagnose what's going on). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was also running this with valgrind and it seems >>>>>>> there is a memory leak somewhere, but for the life of >>>>>>> me I can't see where it'd possibly leak memory. It >>>>>>> reports something going on in sensMIDI and the midi >>>>>>> reading function, but even with everything compiled to >>>>>>> debug it has ????'s in the stack trace it gives, so >>>>>>> it's been very hard for me to find. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks though for your time to check it out! I'll >>>>>>> keep on with it to see if I can make any more >>>>>> progress. > >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> steven >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini >>>>>>>> wrote: actually I got it >>>>>>>> working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a little >>>>>>> unstable. > >>>>>>>> At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote: >>>>>>>>> working here on Linux. But some of the lower notes >>>>>>>> seem to >be hanging (might be my own isntrument >>>>>>>> though) > >>>>>>>>> At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've just checked in a project I was working on >>>>>>>>> which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi driver. >>>>>>>>> It's written as a plugin midi driver >and if you >>>>>>>>> run csound using: > >>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual -M0 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop up >>>>>>>>> that looks like a >piano keyboard. Using the >>>>>>>>> keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up >will >>>>>>>>> fire off MIDI notes. This should be useful in >>>>>>> situations where >you don't have a real MIDI device >>>>>>>>> available (testing an orch, when >you're on the >>>>>>>>> road, etc.) > >>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if others here can update from >>>>>>>>> CVS and give it a >try. There is one bug in >>>>>>>>> particular which I have been having a hard >time >>>>>>>>> diagnosing. It seems that if you run the keyboard >>>>>>> either with >--displays or not and the CSD has no FLTK >>>>>>>>> widgets, the keyboard window >will eat up CPU (on >>>>>>>>> Linux here, the xorg process takes up a lot of >>>>>>>>>> it). Any help with that would be greatly >>>>>>>>> appreciated. > >Also, I haven't had a chance to >>>>>>>>> run on OSX or Windows myself, so any >reports on >>>>>>>>> that would be great. > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> steven >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> ---------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do >>>>>>> more? Need to support web services, security? >Get >>>>> stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make >>>>>>>>> your job easier >>>>>>>>>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 >>>>>>>>> based on Apache Geronimo >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=26 >>>>>>>>> 3057&dat=121642 >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini >Music Technology Laboratory >>>>>>>>> Music Department >>>>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> ---------------- >Using Tomcat but need to do more? >>>>>>> Need to support web services, security? >Get stuff >>>>> done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your >>>>>>>> job easier >Download IBM WebSphere Application >>>>>>>> Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=26 >>>>>>>> 3057&dat=121642 >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>>>>>> Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory >>>>>>>> Music Department >>>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> --------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? >>>>>>> Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done >>>>>>>> quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your >>>>> job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server >>>>>>>> v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? >>>> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> --------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need >>>>>>> to support web services, security? Get stuff done >>>>> quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job >>>>>>> easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server >>>>>>> v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? >>>> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> --------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need >>>>>> to support web services, security? Get stuff done >>>>> quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job >>>>>> easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 >>>>>> based on Apache Geronimo >>>>> >>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? >>>> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>> >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> --------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to >>>>> support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly >>>>> with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier >>>>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on >>>>> Apache Geronimo >>>>> >>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? >>>> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> - >>>> - >>>> --- >>>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, >>>> security? >>>> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your >>>> job easier >>>> Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache >>>> Geronimo >>>> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? >>>> cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> - >>> --- >>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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