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Date2012-02-18 21:39
FromSteven Yi
Subject[Cs-dev] Wordpress update
Hi All,

I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
 After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
csound.net.

Thoughts?

steven

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Date2012-02-18 21:45
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and csound.org domains to point to this server.

-dB
___________________________________

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

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On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
csound.net.

Thoughts?

steven

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Date2012-02-19 01:48
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
I think it would be nice to have all domains go to the one place. I
think having several different Csound domains is a little confusing.
Perhaps now would be the time to consolidate all of them into one site
like Pure Data has. I had been thinking that we could  start afresh
with Csound 6. www.Csound6.com is free. It would be nice to launch a
new website to coincide with its release. After all it will be a big
moment. We've also got lots of other projects on the market now that
are starting to making Csound look pretty hot. Oeyvind and Richard's
plugin solutions are really great and they're throwing Csound into the
world of professional audio, as I hope to do with Cabbage. Csound is
offering more now than it ever has. I think it's time that we
consolidate everything into one ultimate Csound site.

My two cents.






On 18 February 2012 21:45, Dr. Richard Boulanger  wrote:
> I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
> csound.org domains to point to this server.
>
> -dB
> ___________________________________
>
> Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>
> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
> Berklee College of Music
> 1140 Boylston Street
> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>
> 617-747-2485 (office)
> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>
> rboulanger@berklee.edu
> http://csounds.com/boulanger
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com
> http://csoundforlive.com
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com/mathews
> ____________________________________
>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
> space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
> altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
> thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
> make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
> also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
> elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
> After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
> csound.net.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> steven
>
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Date2012-02-19 02:11
FromIain Duncan
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
I think it would be nice to have all domains go to the one place. I
think having several different Csound domains is a little confusing.

+1 on that!

iain


Date2012-02-19 11:26
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
but on the other hand, www.csounds.com *is* the "official website" and
the "one place" for csound, has grown and changed over the years, and
recently in particular john clements has put a lot of work in
maintaining the site. it looks now very much up to date, and i always
found john extremly responsive for any suggestion or request or spam report.

so i think we should try to continue keeping csounds.com up to date, and
to support the maintainers in doing this, instead of creating a new
csound website.

what steven now did with the wordpress site (and before andy in
maintaining csound.sourceforge.net) is great though. i think we need a
simple but informative site like this which can be easily maintained and
which links to csounds.com and to other sites. i think the outline is
good as it is; as far as i undestood it's more the problem of
maintaining which led to the move to wordpress.

so my vote is to stay at the combination of a small and general site at
csound.net (now at csound.sourceforge.net, soon perhaps linking to a
wordpress setup) and the main community site at csounds.com.

by the way: before this discussion i never knew that i could access the
general csound site by www.csound.net (and i think this is a perfect
name - thanks god it has been bought by someone in the community).

ciao -

	joachim



Am 19.02.2012 02:48, schrieb Rory Walsh:
> I think it would be nice to have all domains go to the one place. I
> think having several different Csound domains is a little confusing.
> Perhaps now would be the time to consolidate all of them into one site
> like Pure Data has. I had been thinking that we could  start afresh
> with Csound 6. www.Csound6.com is free. It would be nice to launch a
> new website to coincide with its release. After all it will be a big
> moment. We've also got lots of other projects on the market now that
> are starting to making Csound look pretty hot. Oeyvind and Richard's
> plugin solutions are really great and they're throwing Csound into the
> world of professional audio, as I hope to do with Cabbage. Csound is
> offering more now than it ever has. I think it's time that we
> consolidate everything into one ultimate Csound site.
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 February 2012 21:45, Dr. Richard Boulanger  wrote:
>> I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
>> csound.org domains to point to this server.
>>
>> -dB
>> ___________________________________
>>
>> Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>>
>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>> Berklee College of Music
>> 1140 Boylston Street
>> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>>
>> 617-747-2485 (office)
>> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>>
>> rboulanger@berklee.edu
>> http://csounds.com/boulanger
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> http://csounds.com
>> http://csoundforlive.com
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> http://csounds.com/mathews
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
>> space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
>> altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
>> thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
>> make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
>> also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
>> elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
>> After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
>> csound.net.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> steven
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing
>> also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service.
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>>
>>
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Date2012-02-19 11:59
FromRory Walsh
Subject[Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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I didn't know that either. Perhaps more integration between the two sites is all that's needed. Csound.net is a good domain name.

On Sunday, 19 February 2012, joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
> but on the other hand, www.csounds.com *is* the "official website" and
> the "one place" for csound, has grown and changed over the years, and
> recently in particular john clements has put a lot of work in
> maintaining the site. it looks now very much up to date, and i always
> found john extremly responsive for any suggestion or request or spam report.
>
> so i think we should try to continue keeping csounds.com up to date, and
> to support the maintainers in doing this, instead of creating a new
> csound website.
>
> what steven now did with the wordpress site (and before andy in
> maintaining csound.sourceforge.net) is great though. i think we need a
> simple but informative site like this which can be easily maintained and
> which links to csounds.com and to other sites. i think the outline is
> good as it is; as far as i undestood it's more the problem of
> maintaining which led to the move to wordpress.
>
> so my vote is to stay at the combination of a small and general site at
> csound.net (now at csound.sourceforge.net, soon perhaps linking to a
> wordpress setup) and the main community site at csounds.com.
>
> by the way: before this discussion i never knew that i could access the
> general csound site by www.csound.net (and i think this is a perfect
> name - thanks god it has been bought by someone in the community).
>
> ciao -
>
>        joachim
>
>
>
> Am 19.02.2012 02:48, schrieb Rory Walsh:
>> I think it would be nice to have all domains go to the one place. I
>> think having several different Csound domains is a little confusing.
>> Perhaps now would be the time to consolidate all of them into one site
>> like Pure Data has. I had been thinking that we could  start afresh
>> with Csound 6. www.Csound6.com is free. It would be nice to launch a
>> new website to coincide with its release. After all it will be a big
>> moment. We've also got lots of other projects on the market now that
>> are starting to making Csound look pretty hot. Oeyvind and Richard's
>> plugin solutions are really great and they're throwing Csound into the
>> world of professional audio, as I hope to do with Cabbage. Csound is
>> offering more now than it ever has. I think it's time that we
>> consolidate everything into one ultimate Csound site.
>>
>> My two cents.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 February 2012 21:45, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
>>> I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
>>> csound.org domains to point to this server.
>>>
>>> -dB
>>> ___________________________________
>>>
>>> Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>>>
>>> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>>> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>>> Berklee College of Music
>>> 1140 Boylston Street
>>> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>>>
>>> 617-747-2485 (office)
>>> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>>>
>>> rboulanger@berklee.edu
>>> http://csounds.com/boulanger
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> http://csounds.com
>>> http://csoundforlive.com
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> http://csounds.com/mathews
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
>>> space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
>>> altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
>>> thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
>>> make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
>>> also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
>>> elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
>>> After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
>>> csound.net.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning
>>> Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing
>>> also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service.
>>> http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date2012-02-19 22:35
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
Thanks Dr. B,

I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com server.  I'll have it be
available as a sub directory from csounds.com until we get the domain
names pointed to that server.

Thanks!
steven

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
 wrote:
> I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
> csound.org domains to point to this server.
>
> -dB
> ___________________________________
>
> Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>
> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
> Berklee College of Music
> 1140 Boylston Street
> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>
> 617-747-2485 (office)
> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>
> rboulanger@berklee.edu
> http://csounds.com/boulanger
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com
> http://csoundforlive.com
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com/mathews
> ____________________________________
>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
> space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
> altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
> thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
> make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
> also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
> elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
> After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
> csound.net.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> steven
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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Date2012-02-19 22:59
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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If I may make a couple of suggestions.

I think the first thing that should come up on the homepage of csound should be a succinct description of what is Csound, how it is related to the numerous front-ends and little audio/video examples of each as well as some simple codes that can be downloaded and rendered out of the box. Looking at the csound page I see:

"Csound is a sound design, music synthesis and signal processing system, [...]"

This is great but too general to be useful to a first-comer. Also there is no mention of what is meant by front-end and why they are useful. This often confuses beginners.

I think it would be good if we worked on perfecting an educative description of csound that gives the full picture to someone who has never heard of it before and tries to excite newbies.

Best,

Peiman


On 19 February 2012 22:35, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dr. B,

I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com server.  I'll have it be
available as a sub directory from csounds.com until we get the domain
names pointed to that server.

Thanks!
steven

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
<rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
> I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
> csound.org domains to point to this server.
>
> -dB
> ___________________________________
>
> Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>
> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
> Berklee College of Music
> 1140 Boylston Street
> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>
> 617-747-2485 (office)
> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>
> rboulanger@berklee.edu
> http://csounds.com/boulanger
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com
> http://csoundforlive.com
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com/mathews
> ____________________________________
>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
> space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
> altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
> thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
> make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
> also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
> elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
> After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
> csound.net.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> steven
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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Date2012-02-19 23:05
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
+1
do you have a suggestion to start the discussion with?
	j

Am 19.02.2012 23:59, schrieb peiman khosravi:
> If I may make a couple of suggestions.
> 
> I think the first thing that should come up on the homepage of csound
> should be a succinct description of what is Csound, how it is related to
> the numerous front-ends and little audio/video examples of each as well
> as some simple codes that can be downloaded and rendered out of the box.
> Looking at the csound page I see:
> 
> "Csound is a sound design, music synthesis and signal processing system,
> [...]"
> 
> This is great but too general to be useful to a first-comer. Also there
> is no mention of what is meant by front-end and why they are useful.
> This often confuses beginners.
> 
> I think it would be good if we worked on perfecting an educative
> description of csound that gives the full picture to someone who has
> never heard of it before and tries to excite newbies.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Peiman
> 
> 
> On 19 February 2012 22:35, Steven Yi  > wrote:
> 
>     Thanks Dr. B,
> 
>     I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
>     setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com 
>     server.  I'll have it be
>     available as a sub directory from csounds.com 
>     until we get the domain
>     names pointed to that server.
> 
>     Thanks!
>     steven
> 
>     On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>     > wrote:
>     > I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the
>     csound.net  and
>     > csound.org  domains to point to this server.
>     >
>     > -dB
>     > ___________________________________
>     >
>     > Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>     >
>     > Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>     > Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>     > Berklee College of Music
>     > 1140 Boylston Street
>     > Boston, MA 02215-3693
>     >
>     > 617-747-2485  (office)
>     > 774-488-9166  (cell)
>     >
>     > rboulanger@berklee.edu 
>     > http://csounds.com/boulanger
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > http://csounds.com
>     > http://csoundforlive.com
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > http://csounds.com/mathews
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi All,
>     >
>     > I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
>     > space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
>     > altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
>     > thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
>     > make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
>     > also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
>     > elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net 
>     to point to this server.
>     > After this, csound.sf.net  would have a
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>     >
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>     >
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Date2012-02-19 23:12
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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I'll post a little paragraph tomorrow as an example of the sort of thing I have in mind, to get the discussion going.

Best,

P

On 19 February 2012 23:05, joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
+1
do you have a suggestion to start the discussion with?
       j

Am 19.02.2012 23:59, schrieb peiman khosravi:
> If I may make a couple of suggestions.
>
> I think the first thing that should come up on the homepage of csound
> should be a succinct description of what is Csound, how it is related to
> the numerous front-ends and little audio/video examples of each as well
> as some simple codes that can be downloaded and rendered out of the box.
> Looking at the csound page I see:
>
> "Csound is a sound design, music synthesis and signal processing system,
> [...]"
>
> This is great but too general to be useful to a first-comer. Also there
> is no mention of what is meant by front-end and why they are useful.
> This often confuses beginners.
>
> I think it would be good if we worked on perfecting an educative
> description of csound that gives the full picture to someone who has
> never heard of it before and tries to excite newbies.
>
> Best,
>
> Peiman
>
>
> On 19 February 2012 22:35, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com
> <mailto:stevenyi@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Dr. B,
>
>     I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
>     setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com <http://csounds.com>
>     server.  I'll have it be
>     available as a sub directory from csounds.com <http://csounds.com>
>     until we get the domain
>     names pointed to that server.
>
>     Thanks!
>     steven
>
>     On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>     <rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>> wrote:
>     > I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the
>     csound.net <http://csound.net> and
>     > csound.org <http://csound.org> domains to point to this server.
>     >
>     > -dB
>     > ___________________________________
>     >
>     > Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>     >
>     > Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>     > Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>     > Berklee College of Music
>     > 1140 Boylston Street
>     > Boston, MA 02215-3693
>     >
>     > 617-747-2485 <tel:617-747-2485> (office)
>     > 774-488-9166 <tel:774-488-9166> (cell)
>     >
>     > rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>
>     > http://csounds.com/boulanger
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > http://csounds.com
>     > http://csoundforlive.com
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > http://csounds.com/mathews
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi All,
>     >
>     > I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
>     > space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
>     > altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
>     > thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
>     > make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
>     > also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
>     > elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net <http://csound.net>
>     to point to this server.
>     > After this, csound.sf.net <http://csound.sf.net> would have a
>     redirect page that would go to
>     > csound.net <http://csound.net>.
>     >
>     > Thoughts?
>     >
>     > steven
>     >
>     >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>     > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing
>     > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service.
>     > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/
>     > _______________________________________________
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>     > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>     <mailto:Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>     > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service.
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Date2012-02-19 23:13
FromIain Duncan
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:05 PM, joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
+1
do you have a suggestion to start the discussion with?
       j


As far as usability to the average newcomer goes, IMHO likely a Cabbage video is the most exciting thing. Though it might be worth making one ( or beseeching Rory to ) that is shorter and ends with a demonstration of more exciting sounds. At any rate, I think the first questions that need to be answered in brief for someone new and checking it out are:

- what is Csound?  
- why would I want to use it?
- how would I use it?

my two cents
iain

Date2012-02-19 23:15
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
AttachmentsNone  None  

- what is Csound?  
- why would I want to use it?
- how would I use it?


Precisely.

P

Date2012-02-19 23:16
FromIain Duncan
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
AttachmentsNone  None  
As far as usability to the average newcomer goes, IMHO likely a Cabbage video is the most exciting thing. Though it might be worth making one ( or beseeching Rory to ) that is shorter and ends with a demonstration of more exciting sounds. At any rate, I think the first questions that need to be answered in brief for someone new and checking it out are:

- what is Csound?  
- why would I want to use it?
- how would I use it?


Oh and, how do I install it? ( not to be confused with 'how would I use it?') 

I think it's important to remember that to a new user those are different. There are so many ways of using Csound that it's overwhelming.  Demonstrating the Cabbage approach, and perhaps other 'mainstream' uses like Csound for Live and the ~Csound object would go a long way to making people want to answer the next one.

iain


Date2012-02-19 23:57
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
AttachmentsNone  None  
good idea rory.

how about

csounds.com

or

csound.org

i have both.
___________________________________

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Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Feb 18, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Rory Walsh wrote:

I think it would be nice to have all domains go to the one place. I
think having several different Csound domains is a little confusing.
Perhaps now would be the time to consolidate all of them into one site
like Pure Data has. I had been thinking that we could  start afresh
with Csound 6. www.Csound6.com is free. It would be nice to launch a
new website to coincide with its release. After all it will be a big
moment. We've also got lots of other projects on the market now that
are starting to making Csound look pretty hot. Oeyvind and Richard's
plugin solutions are really great and they're throwing Csound into the
world of professional audio, as I hope to do with Cabbage. Csound is
offering more now than it ever has. I think it's time that we
consolidate everything into one ultimate Csound site.

My two cents.






On 18 February 2012 21:45, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
csound.org domains to point to this server.

-dB
___________________________________

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

rboulanger@berklee.edu
http://csounds.com/boulanger
____________________________________

http://csounds.com
http://csoundforlive.com
____________________________________

http://csounds.com/mathews
____________________________________

On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
csound.net.

Thoughts?

steven

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Date2012-02-19 23:59
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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i agree.


___________________________________

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:26 AM, joachim heintz wrote:

but on the other hand, www.csounds.com *is* the "official website" and
the "one place" for csound, has grown and changed over the years, and
recently in particular john clements has put a lot of work in
maintaining the site. it looks now very much up to date, and i always
found john extremly responsive for any suggestion or request or spam report.

so i think we should try to continue keeping csounds.com up to date, and
to support the maintainers in doing this, instead of creating a new
csound website.

what steven now did with the wordpress site (and before andy in
maintaining csound.sourceforge.net) is great though. i think we need a
simple but informative site like this which can be easily maintained and
which links to csounds.com and to other sites. i think the outline is
good as it is; as far as i undestood it's more the problem of
maintaining which led to the move to wordpress.

so my vote is to stay at the combination of a small and general site at
csound.net (now at csound.sourceforge.net, soon perhaps linking to a
wordpress setup) and the main community site at csounds.com.

by the way: before this discussion i never knew that i could access the
general csound site by www.csound.net (and i think this is a perfect
name - thanks god it has been bought by someone in the community).

ciao -

joachim



Am 19.02.2012 02:48, schrieb Rory Walsh:
I think it would be nice to have all domains go to the one place. I
think having several different Csound domains is a little confusing.
Perhaps now would be the time to consolidate all of them into one site
like Pure Data has. I had been thinking that we could  start afresh
with Csound 6. www.Csound6.com is free. It would be nice to launch a
new website to coincide with its release. After all it will be a big
moment. We've also got lots of other projects on the market now that
are starting to making Csound look pretty hot. Oeyvind and Richard's
plugin solutions are really great and they're throwing Csound into the
world of professional audio, as I hope to do with Cabbage. Csound is
offering more now than it ever has. I think it's time that we
consolidate everything into one ultimate Csound site.

My two cents.






On 18 February 2012 21:45, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
csound.org domains to point to this server.

-dB
___________________________________

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

rboulanger@berklee.edu
http://csounds.com/boulanger
____________________________________

http://csounds.com
http://csoundforlive.com
____________________________________

http://csounds.com/mathews
____________________________________

On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
csound.net.

Thoughts?

steven

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Date2012-02-20 00:01
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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excellent.

let me know if you need anything - or any permissions - and I will give you total access to do this.

-dB
___________________________________

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

Thanks Dr. B,

I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com server.  I'll have it be
available as a sub directory from csounds.com until we get the domain
names pointed to that server.

Thanks!
steven

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
<rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
csound.org domains to point to this server.

-dB
___________________________________

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

rboulanger@berklee.edu
http://csounds.com/boulanger
____________________________________

http://csounds.com
http://csoundforlive.com
____________________________________

http://csounds.com/mathews
____________________________________

On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
csound.net.

Thoughts?

steven

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Date2012-02-20 00:03
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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For sure.  John Clements is also an excellent writer - and very dedicated to "teaching" and "demonstrating".  I am sure that he would be all for input and suggestions to help better shape the main page and to fine-tune the message.

-dB
___________________________________

Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.

Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)
774-488-9166 (cell)

____________________________________

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:59 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:

If I may make a couple of suggestions.

I think the first thing that should come up on the homepage of csound should be a succinct description of what is Csound, how it is related to the numerous front-ends and little audio/video examples of each as well as some simple codes that can be downloaded and rendered out of the box. Looking at the csound page I see:

"Csound is a sound design, music synthesis and signal processing system, [...]"

This is great but too general to be useful to a first-comer. Also there is no mention of what is meant by front-end and why they are useful. This often confuses beginners.

I think it would be good if we worked on perfecting an educative description of csound that gives the full picture to someone who has never heard of it before and tries to excite newbies.

Best,

Peiman


On 19 February 2012 22:35, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dr. B,

I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com server.  I'll have it be
available as a sub directory from csounds.com until we get the domain
names pointed to that server.

Thanks!
steven

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
<rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
> I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the csound.net and
> csound.org domains to point to this server.
>
> -dB
> ___________________________________
>
> Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>
> Professor of Electronic Production and Design
> Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
> Berklee College of Music
> 1140 Boylston Street
> Boston, MA 02215-3693
>
> 617-747-2485 (office)
> 774-488-9166 (cell)
>
> rboulanger@berklee.edu
> http://csounds.com/boulanger
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com
> http://csoundforlive.com
> ____________________________________
>
> http://csounds.com/mathews
> ____________________________________
>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
> space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
> altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
> thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
> make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
> also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
> elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net to point to this server.
> After this, csound.sf.net would have a redirect page that would go to
> csound.net.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> steven
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Date2012-02-20 00:04
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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Let's plan to meet online in the chat room and plan for the "new" message.  Maybe next weekend?
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On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:05 PM, joachim heintz wrote:

+1
do you have a suggestion to start the discussion with?
j

Am 19.02.2012 23:59, schrieb peiman khosravi:
If I may make a couple of suggestions.

I think the first thing that should come up on the homepage of csound
should be a succinct description of what is Csound, how it is related to
the numerous front-ends and little audio/video examples of each as well
as some simple codes that can be downloaded and rendered out of the box.
Looking at the csound page I see:

"Csound is a sound design, music synthesis and signal processing system,
[...]"

This is great but too general to be useful to a first-comer. Also there
is no mention of what is meant by front-end and why they are useful.
This often confuses beginners.

I think it would be good if we worked on perfecting an educative
description of csound that gives the full picture to someone who has
never heard of it before and tries to excite newbies.

Best,

Peiman


On 19 February 2012 22:35, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com
<mailto:stevenyi@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Thanks Dr. B,

   I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
   setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com <http://csounds.com>
   server.  I'll have it be
   available as a sub directory from csounds.com <http://csounds.com>
   until we get the domain
   names pointed to that server.

   Thanks!
   steven

   On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
   <rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>> wrote:
I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the
   csound.net <http://csound.net> and
csound.org <http://csound.org> domains to point to this server.

-dB
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On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

Hi All,

I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net <http://csound.net>
   to point to this server.
After this, csound.sf.net <http://csound.sf.net> would have a
   redirect page that would go to
csound.net <http://csound.net>.

Thoughts?

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Date2012-02-20 00:04
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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excellent.
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On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:12 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:

I'll post a little paragraph tomorrow as an example of the sort of thing I have in mind, to get the discussion going.

Best,

P

On 19 February 2012 23:05, joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
+1
do you have a suggestion to start the discussion with?
       j

Am 19.02.2012 23:59, schrieb peiman khosravi:
> If I may make a couple of suggestions.
>
> I think the first thing that should come up on the homepage of csound
> should be a succinct description of what is Csound, how it is related to
> the numerous front-ends and little audio/video examples of each as well
> as some simple codes that can be downloaded and rendered out of the box.
> Looking at the csound page I see:
>
> "Csound is a sound design, music synthesis and signal processing system,
> [...]"
>
> This is great but too general to be useful to a first-comer. Also there
> is no mention of what is meant by front-end and why they are useful.
> This often confuses beginners.
>
> I think it would be good if we worked on perfecting an educative
> description of csound that gives the full picture to someone who has
> never heard of it before and tries to excite newbies.
>
> Best,
>
> Peiman
>
>
> On 19 February 2012 22:35, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com
> <mailto:stevenyi@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Dr. B,
>
>     I've been preoccupied all day and will be tomorrow, but will look at
>     setting this up on Tuesday on the csounds.com <http://csounds.com>
>     server.  I'll have it be
>     available as a sub directory from csounds.com <http://csounds.com>
>     until we get the domain
>     names pointed to that server.
>
>     Thanks!
>     steven
>
>     On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger
>     <rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>> wrote:
>     > I would "love" you to set it up at cSounds.com and use the
>     csound.net <http://csound.net> and
>     > csound.org <http://csound.org> domains to point to this server.
>     >
>     > -dB
>     > ___________________________________
>     >
>     > Dr. Richard Boulanger, Ph.D.
>     >
>     > Professor of Electronic Production and Design
>     > Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
>     > Berklee College of Music
>     > 1140 Boylston Street
>     > Boston, MA 02215-3693
>     >
>     > 617-747-2485 <tel:617-747-2485> (office)
>     > 774-488-9166 <tel:774-488-9166> (cell)
>     >
>     > rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>
>     > http://csounds.com/boulanger
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > http://csounds.com
>     > http://csoundforlive.com
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > http://csounds.com/mathews
>     > ____________________________________
>     >
>     > On Feb 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Steven Yi wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi All,
>     >
>     > I attempted to setup Wordpress on the the Sourceforge project web
>     > space for Csound but it caused strange problems killing the site
>     > altogether (even static html wasn't getting served up).  My current
>     > thought is that we setup a Wordpress site outside of Sourceforge and
>     > make it the project site for Csound.  I could set one up on my server,
>     > also on Csounds.com's server (assuming Dr. B is fine with this), or
>     > elsewhere.  We can also get use of csound.net <http://csound.net>
>     to point to this server.
>     > After this, csound.sf.net <http://csound.sf.net> would have a
>     redirect page that would go to
>     > csound.net <http://csound.net>.
>     >
>     > Thoughts?
>     >
>     > steven
>     >
>     >
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Date2012-02-20 00:09
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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video demos of all these things too!  - and more audio and model instruments - like .csd of the week/month.  comp of the week.
tutorial video of the week.  a concert-hall.  a more active instrument collection - to which we could all contribute - and a more active
forum - all @ csounds.com.  have been some of my ideas..

and....

to connect with these discussions - how do I compile from sources?  - step by step for each platform with maybe a video dome of 
someone doing it on each platform.

platform - specific demo videos  would be helpful - and more "current"

and

video demos of....

Installing
Using
CommandLine
CsoundQt
Blue
CsoundForLive
Csound~
Cabbage
WinXsound
CsoundAC
etc....
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On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Iain Duncan wrote:

As far as usability to the average newcomer goes, IMHO likely a Cabbage video is the most exciting thing. Though it might be worth making one ( or beseeching Rory to ) that is shorter and ends with a demonstration of more exciting sounds. At any rate, I think the first questions that need to be answered in brief for someone new and checking it out are:

- what is Csound?  
- why would I want to use it?
- how would I use it?


Oh and, how do I install it? ( not to be confused with 'how would I use it?') 

I think it's important to remember that to a new user those are different. There are so many ways of using Csound that it's overwhelming.  Demonstrating the Cabbage approach, and perhaps other 'mainstream' uses like Csound for Live and the ~Csound object would go a long way to making people want to answer the next one.

iain

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Date2012-02-20 00:52
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Wordpress update
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Here are a few ideas (sorry I didn't spend that much time on it so a bit sketchy!).


What is Csound?
Csound is a sound synthesis and processing software designed for computer-based music composition and performance.

Why should I use it?
Unlike standard software instruments and plug-ins, Csound is not designed with a particular type of sound manipulation, synthesis or style of music in mind. Rather, it is a powerful engine that provides the user with the basic building blocks (known as opcodes) required for designing a practically unlimited variety of sound synthesis and signal processing tools. The user is provided with the means to implement conventional synthesis techniques and sound processing algorithms as well as highly personal or experimental instruments resulting from the combination and novel use of the ever expanding number of available opcodes.

[Something about Csound being code-based]

[Something about text editors]

How difficult is it to learn?    
Although Csound allows a low-level approach to sound synthesis and manipulation it includes a large number of opcodes that in themselves function as powerful sound synthesis and processing tools. In other words the keen user can immediately start making interesting sounds just after reading a few basic tutorials.              

[Something about front-ends like Cecilia and Cabbage]

[Something about Blue]   

[How to install for each platform]

[Rendering the first examples: should be some exciting little etudes and weird instruments!] 



P

On 20 February 2012 00:09, Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
video demos of all these things too!  - and more audio and model instruments - like .csd of the week/month.  comp of the week.
tutorial video of the week.  a concert-hall.  a more active instrument collection - to which we could all contribute - and a more active
forum - all @ csounds.com.  have been some of my ideas..

and....

to connect with these discussions - how do I compile from sources?  - step by step for each platform with maybe a video dome of 
someone doing it on each platform.

platform - specific demo videos  would be helpful - and more "current"

and

video demos of....

Installing
Using
CommandLine
CsoundQt
Blue
CsoundForLive
Csound~
Cabbage
WinXsound
CsoundAC
etc....
___________________________________

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Professor of Electronic Production and Design
Professional Writing and Music Technology Division
Berklee College of Music
1140 Boylston Street
Boston, MA 02215-3693

617-747-2485 (office)

____________________________________

____________________________________

____________________________________

On Feb 19, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Iain Duncan wrote:

As far as usability to the average newcomer goes, IMHO likely a Cabbage video is the most exciting thing. Though it might be worth making one ( or beseeching Rory to ) that is shorter and ends with a demonstration of more exciting sounds. At any rate, I think the first questions that need to be answered in brief for someone new and checking it out are:

- what is Csound?  
- why would I want to use it?
- how would I use it?


Oh and, how do I install it? ( not to be confused with 'how would I use it?') 

I think it's important to remember that to a new user those are different. There are so many ways of using Csound that it's overwhelming.  Demonstrating the Cabbage approach, and perhaps other 'mainstream' uses like Csound for Live and the ~Csound object would go a long way to making people want to answer the next one.

iain

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