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Date2010-11-25 12:37
FromJohn ff
Subject[Cs-dev] It is now 10.5 months since last release
on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say 17 Jan
2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.

We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21  	 nobody menno0
3065724 Real-time ending too soon?  	2010-09-14 	nobody 	fggpinot
3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi 	2010-07-28 	nobody
3024991 midiout and midion2 issues 	2010-07-04 	nobody 	menno0
2993171 ATSA errors 	                2010-04-27 	gogins 	menno0
2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU 	2010-02-26 	gogins 	rene-djack

There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.

My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.

==John ffitch

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Date2010-11-25 17:56
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] It is now 10.5 months since last release
I would not like to produce a new release without the parallel Csound
stuff working. Doing that by January 17 would not be feasible. I think
mostly what needs to be done is protecting global and shared data.
This is pretty straightforward, and I have made a start in some of the
opcodes that I have written. User-defined upcodes also need to be
worked into the ParCS code, probably as always being single-threaded.
This is not quite as straightforward as just adding locks around
stuff, but probably not too terribly difficult.

Regards,
Mike

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, John ff  wrote:
> on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say 17 Jan
> 2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.
>
> We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
> 3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21       nobody menno0
> 3065724 Real-time ending too soon?      2010-09-14      nobody  fggpinot
> 3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi      2010-07-28      nobody
> 3024991 midiout and midion2 issues      2010-07-04      nobody  menno0
> 2993171 ATSA errors                     2010-04-27      gogins  menno0
> 2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU    2010-02-26      gogins  rene-djack
>
> There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.
>
> My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.
>
> ==John ffitch
>
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Date2010-11-25 18:35
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] It is now 10.5 months since last release
Also: if we are going to have the new parser by default, we need to  
fix the crashes on syntax errors (at least).

Victor

On 25 Nov 2010, at 17:56, Michael Gogins wrote:

> I would not like to produce a new release without the parallel Csound
> stuff working. Doing that by January 17 would not be feasible. I think
> mostly what needs to be done is protecting global and shared data.
> This is pretty straightforward, and I have made a start in some of the
> opcodes that I have written. User-defined upcodes also need to be
> worked into the ParCS code, probably as always being single-threaded.
> This is not quite as straightforward as just adding locks around
> stuff, but probably not too terribly difficult.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, John ff  wrote:
>> on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say 17  
>> Jan
>> 2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.
>>
>> We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
>> 3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21       nobody  
>> menno0
>> 3065724 Real-time ending too soon?      2010-09-14      nobody   
>> fggpinot
>> 3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi      2010-07-28       
>> nobody
>> 3024991 midiout and midion2 issues      2010-07-04      nobody   
>> menno0
>> 2993171 ATSA errors                     2010-04-27      gogins   
>> menno0
>> 2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU     
>> 2010-02-26      gogins  rene-djack
>>
>> There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.
>>
>> My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.
>>
>> ==John ffitch
>>
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Date2010-11-27 21:08
FromFelipe Sateler
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] It is now 10.5 months since last release
It seems to me that every time a 5.13 release is proposed, there is
some feature that should be included in it that is not ready yet. I
believe it would be better to just get 5.13 out and finish this for
5.14; there are several bugfixes, improvements and opcodes in CVS
currently.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 14:56, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> I would not like to produce a new release without the parallel Csound
> stuff working. Doing that by January 17 would not be feasible. I think
> mostly what needs to be done is protecting global and shared data.
> This is pretty straightforward, and I have made a start in some of the
> opcodes that I have written. User-defined upcodes also need to be
> worked into the ParCS code, probably as always being single-threaded.
> This is not quite as straightforward as just adding locks around
> stuff, but probably not too terribly difficult.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, John ff  wrote:
>> on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say 17 Jan
>> 2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.
>>
>> We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
>> 3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21       nobody menno0
>> 3065724 Real-time ending too soon?      2010-09-14      nobody  fggpinot
>> 3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi      2010-07-28      nobody
>> 3024991 midiout and midion2 issues      2010-07-04      nobody  menno0
>> 2993171 ATSA errors                     2010-04-27      gogins  menno0
>> 2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU    2010-02-26      gogins  rene-djack
>>
>> There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.
>>
>> My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.
>>
>> ==John ffitch
>>
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Date2010-11-27 21:20
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] It is now 10.5 months since last release
Ok, then we need to revert to the old parser as default. The new one  
is not quite there for
release.

There are a number of new opcodes and new code in CVS which might  
justify releasing
5.13 as it is. I would be favourable to that.

Victor
On 27 Nov 2010, at 21:08, Felipe Sateler wrote:

> It seems to me that every time a 5.13 release is proposed, there is
> some feature that should be included in it that is not ready yet. I
> believe it would be better to just get 5.13 out and finish this for
> 5.14; there are several bugfixes, improvements and opcodes in CVS
> currently.
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 14:56, Michael Gogins  > wrote:
>> I would not like to produce a new release without the parallel Csound
>> stuff working. Doing that by January 17 would not be feasible. I  
>> think
>> mostly what needs to be done is protecting global and shared data.
>> This is pretty straightforward, and I have made a start in some of  
>> the
>> opcodes that I have written. User-defined upcodes also need to be
>> worked into the ParCS code, probably as always being single-threaded.
>> This is not quite as straightforward as just adding locks around
>> stuff, but probably not too terribly difficult.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, John ff  wrote:
>>> on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say  
>>> 17 Jan
>>> 2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.
>>>
>>> We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
>>> 3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21       nobody  
>>> menno0
>>> 3065724 Real-time ending too soon?      2010-09-14      nobody   
>>> fggpinot
>>> 3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi      2010-07-28       
>>> nobody
>>> 3024991 midiout and midion2 issues      2010-07-04      nobody   
>>> menno0
>>> 2993171 ATSA errors                     2010-04-27      gogins   
>>> menno0
>>> 2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU     
>>> 2010-02-26      gogins  rene-djack
>>>
>>> There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.
>>>
>>> My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.
>>>
>>> ==John ffitch
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Date2010-11-27 21:25
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] It is now 10.5 months since last release
I agree with Felipe. I think the big parser/parcs stuff will need a
good period of testing and may be worth a bigger version bump to note
its significance (5.2). A maintenance release right about now seems
appropriate.

On 11/27/10, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> It seems to me that every time a 5.13 release is proposed, there is
> some feature that should be included in it that is not ready yet. I
> believe it would be better to just get 5.13 out and finish this for
> 5.14; there are several bugfixes, improvements and opcodes in CVS
> currently.
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 14:56, Michael Gogins 
> wrote:
>> I would not like to produce a new release without the parallel Csound
>> stuff working. Doing that by January 17 would not be feasible. I think
>> mostly what needs to be done is protecting global and shared data.
>> This is pretty straightforward, and I have made a start in some of the
>> opcodes that I have written. User-defined upcodes also need to be
>> worked into the ParCS code, probably as always being single-threaded.
>> This is not quite as straightforward as just adding locks around
>> stuff, but probably not too terribly difficult.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, John ff  wrote:
>>> on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say 17 Jan
>>> 2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.
>>>
>>> We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
>>> 3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21       nobody menno0
>>> 3065724 Real-time ending too soon?      2010-09-14      nobody  fggpinot
>>> 3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi      2010-07-28      nobody
>>> 3024991 midiout and midion2 issues      2010-07-04      nobody  menno0
>>> 2993171 ATSA errors                     2010-04-27      gogins  menno0
>>> 2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU    2010-02-26
>>>  gogins  rene-djack
>>>
>>> There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.
>>>
>>> My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.
>>>
>>> ==John ffitch
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Date2010-11-29 13:16
Fromjoachim heintz
Subject[Cs-dev] small wish list for the next release
hello developers -

i have some wishes for some extensions, deriving from my own use and  
what i see at my students. it would be great if you find them useful,  
too. perhaps it's possible to have it in the next release? the wishes  
are:

1. can table3 be extended to read gen01 created deferred ftables?
2. the same question for tableicopy and tableimix.
3. add [@ N] and [@@ N] statement for function tables to ftgen (works  
now just in score f-statement)
4. let inch accept more than one argument, for instance:
a1, a2 inch 1, 2
5. i'd love to have a possibility to read in a line from an external  
file and get it as a string. something like:
Sline freads Sfile, iline and
Sline freadks Sfile, kline
this would be the complement to the fprints/fprintks opcode.

regards -

	joachim


Am 25.11.2010 um 13:37 schrieb John ff:

> on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say 17  
> Jan
> 2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.
>
> We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
> 3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21  	 nobody menno0
> 3065724 Real-time ending too soon?  	2010-09-14 	nobody 	fggpinot
> 3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi 	2010-07-28 	nobody
> 3024991 midiout and midion2 issues 	2010-07-04 	nobody 	menno0
> 2993171 ATSA errors 	                2010-04-27 	gogins 	menno0
> 2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU 	2010-02-26 	 
> gogins 	rene-djack
>
> There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.
>
> My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.
>
> ==John ffitch
>
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Date2010-12-03 15:15
Fromjoachim heintz
Subject[Cs-dev] crhristman wish list for the next release
hello developers -

christmas comes closer, and my wish list (= questions to you whether  
something like this would be possible for the next release) has become  
a little longer. so may i repeat my updated questions:

1. can table3 be extended to read gen01 created deferred ftables?
2. the same question for tableicopy and tableimix.
3. can the [@ N] and [@@ N] statement for function tables be added to  
the ftgen opcode (works now just in score f-statement)?
4. let inch accept more than one argument, for instance:
a1, a2 inch 1, 2
5. i'd love to have a possibility to read in a line from an external  
file and get it as a string. something like:
Sline freads Sfile, iline and
Sline freadks Sfile, kline
this would be the complement to the fprints/fprintks opcode.
6. can the facility of optional arguments for UDOs be extended for k  
arguments (in other words: it would be great to be able to use o/j/p  
for k-rate arguments, too).

thanks and best regards -

	joachim


Am 25.11.2010 um 13:37 schrieb John ff:

> on 17 Jan.  Surely it must be near time for another release, say 17  
> Jan
> 2011?  We must have changed/fixed/added much in that time.
>
> We have a small list of outstanding bugs:
> 3072900 voice issues                    2010-09-21  	 nobody menno0
> 3065724 Real-time ending too soon?  	2010-09-14 	nobody 	fggpinot
> 3035924 ATS noise component with ATSsinnoi 	2010-07-28 	nobody
> 3024991 midiout and midion2 issues 	2010-07-04 	nobody 	menno0
> 2993171 ATSA errors 	                2010-04-27 	gogins 	menno0
> 2959788 STKShakers not stable in real time on UBUNTU 	2010-02-26 	 
> gogins 	rene-djack
>
> There is still a question of the stability of the new parser.
>
> My teaching madness ends in 3 weeks and so I may again have time.
>
> ==John ffitch
>
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Date2010-12-05 17:34
Fromjohn ffitch
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] crhristman wish list for the next release
I have @ and @@ as operators on integers in the new parser, tested and
committed

i have a variable arg list version of inch, not tested and not
committed yet.  

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Date2010-12-05 19:34
Fromjohn ffitch
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] crhristman wish list for the next release
A version of readks now exists, as a reflection of readk
  Sline readks Sfile, itimeout

May not be what you want though.....

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Date2010-12-05 20:18
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] crhristman wish list for the next release
what's the itimeout argument?


Am 05.12.2010 um 20:34 schrieb john ffitch:

> A version of readks now exists, as a reflection of readk
>  Sline readks Sfile, itimeout
>
> May not be what you want though.....
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