On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any other
FLTK window, graph or widgets together.

Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard
so that we can play from the computer keyboard?
It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK.

Victor

>
> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but only
> when running a project where FLTK widgets are *not* there
> on Linux.  So FLTK is funny all around! :P
>
> steven
>
> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini 
> > wrote: I only tested with an instrument that used fltk
> > widgets. The interaction between the two seems to
> > be the problem. But Dr. B seems to get it to run,
> > I presume without using widgets.
> >
> > FLTK is funny on OSX.
> >
> > However, linux is very good: both widgets and keyboard
> > work impeccably.
> >
> > Victor
> > >
> > > Hi Victor,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your feedback!  I've been racking by brain
> > > trying to debug this thing to make it run reliably but
> > > have to say that I'm not all that versed in FLTK as
> > > well as C calling C++ code, so any help in those
> > > regards from anyone would be very much appreciated.
> > >
> > > I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I haven't
> > > figured out what in the code is causing that, as to me
> > > the code looks like it's doing the right thing.  The
> > > keyboard itself only records the note-on when it turns
> > > on as well as note-offs, and the MIDI driver part
> > > reads and clears back to zero after using it.  Perhaps
> > > there's a threading issue somewhere though, I'll keep
> > looking. >
> > > As for unstable, could you describe it a bit?  Is it
> > > window redrawing issues, notes not playing?  (Any info
> > > here would help to diagnose what's going on).
> > >
> > > I was also running this with valgrind and it seems
> > > there is a memory leak somewhere, but for the life of
> > > me I can't see where it'd possibly leak memory.  It
> > > reports something going on in sensMIDI and the midi
> > > reading function, but even with everything compiled to
> > > debug it has ????'s in the stack trace it gives, so
> > > it's been very hard for me to find.
> > >
> > > Thanks though for your time to check it out!  I'll
> > > keep on with it to see if I can make any more
> > progress. >
> > > Thanks!
> > > steven
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
> > > >  wrote: actually I got it
> > > > working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a little
> > > unstable. >
> > > > At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >working here on Linux. But some of the lower notes
> > > > seem to >be hanging (might be my own isntrument
> > > > though) >
> > > > >At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I've just checked in a project I was working on
> > > > > which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi driver.
> > > > > It's written as a plugin midi driver >and if you
> > > > > run csound using: >
> > > > > >-+rtmidi=virtual -M0
> > > > > >
> > > > > >as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop up
> > > > > that looks like a >piano keyboard.  Using the
> > > > > keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up >will
> > > > > fire off MIDI notes.  This should be useful in
> > > situations where >you don't have a real MIDI device
> > > > > available (testing an orch, when >you're on the
> > > > > road, etc.) >
> > > > > >I'd appreciate it if others here can update from
> > > > > CVS and give it a >try.  There is one bug in
> > > > > particular which I have been having a hard >time
> > > > > diagnosing.  It seems that if you run the keyboard
> > > either with >--displays or not and the CSD has no FLTK
> > > > > widgets, the keyboard window >will eat up CPU (on
> > > > > Linux here, the xorg process takes up a lot of
> > > > > >it).   Any help with that would be greatly
> > > > > appreciated. > >Also, I haven't had a chance to
> > > > > run on OSX or Windows myself, so any >reports on
> > > > > that would be great. >
> > > > > >Thanks!
> > > > > >steven
> > > > > >
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I agree that it would be wonderful to play the keyboard from the  
ascii keyboard as well.

-dB

Also, while you are at it.  Can you make the keyboard called by  
default if an actual hardware device is not found?

-M0  - no device found - means to substiture -+rtmidi=virtual

On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any other
> FLTK window, graph or widgets together.
>
> Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard
> so that we can play from the computer keyboard?
> It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK.
>
> Victor
>
>>
>> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but only
>> when running a project where FLTK widgets are *not* there
>> on Linux.  So FLTK is funny all around! :P
>>
>> steven
>>
>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini 
>>> wrote: I only tested with an instrument that used fltk
>>> widgets. The interaction between the two seems to
>>> be the problem. But Dr. B seems to get it to run,
>>> I presume without using widgets.
>>>
>>> FLTK is funny on OSX.
>>>
>>> However, linux is very good: both widgets and keyboard
>>> work impeccably.
>>>
>>> Victor
>>>>
>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your feedback!  I've been racking by brain
>>>> trying to debug this thing to make it run reliably but
>>>> have to say that I'm not all that versed in FLTK as
>>>> well as C calling C++ code, so any help in those
>>>> regards from anyone would be very much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I haven't
>>>> figured out what in the code is causing that, as to me
>>>> the code looks like it's doing the right thing.  The
>>>> keyboard itself only records the note-on when it turns
>>>> on as well as note-offs, and the MIDI driver part
>>>> reads and clears back to zero after using it.  Perhaps
>>>> there's a threading issue somewhere though, I'll keep
>>> looking. >
>>>> As for unstable, could you describe it a bit?  Is it
>>>> window redrawing issues, notes not playing?  (Any info
>>>> here would help to diagnose what's going on).
>>>>
>>>> I was also running this with valgrind and it seems
>>>> there is a memory leak somewhere, but for the life of
>>>> me I can't see where it'd possibly leak memory.  It
>>>> reports something going on in sensMIDI and the midi
>>>> reading function, but even with everything compiled to
>>>> debug it has ????'s in the stack trace it gives, so
>>>> it's been very hard for me to find.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks though for your time to check it out!  I'll
>>>> keep on with it to see if I can make any more
>>> progress. >
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>  wrote: actually I got it
>>>>> working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a little
>>>> unstable. >
>>>>> At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>> working here on Linux. But some of the lower notes
>>>>> seem to >be hanging (might be my own isntrument
>>>>> though) >
>>>>>> At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've just checked in a project I was working on
>>>>>> which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi driver.
>>>>>> It's written as a plugin midi driver >and if you
>>>>>> run csound using: >
>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop up
>>>>>> that looks like a >piano keyboard.  Using the
>>>>>> keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up >will
>>>>>> fire off MIDI notes.  This should be useful in
>>>> situations where >you don't have a real MIDI device
>>>>>> available (testing an orch, when >you're on the
>>>>>> road, etc.) >
>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if others here can update from
>>>>>> CVS and give it a >try.  There is one bug in
>>>>>> particular which I have been having a hard >time
>>>>>> diagnosing.  It seems that if you run the keyboard
>>>> either with >--displays or not and the CSD has no FLTK
>>>>>> widgets, the keyboard window >will eat up CPU (on
>>>>>> Linux here, the xorg process takes up a lot of
>>>>>>> it).   Any help with that would be greatly
>>>>>> appreciated. > >Also, I haven't had a chance to
>>>>>> run on OSX or Windows myself, so any >reports on
>>>>>> that would be great. >
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
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Super.  That would be really great for OLPC too.

What about that default behavior I keep asking for?
Is that possible?

Rick

On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

> Hi Victor,
>
> Thanks for checking this out on WinXP.  I tried compiling with
> noThreads earlier on Linux and found that I had the opposite effect of
> it not being able to show any fltk things, but I'll try again to make
> sure (I had a lot of consoles open and things going on).
>
> Adding a keyboard to emit midi notes shouldn't be too difficult as it
> just adds another case to the handle method in FLTKKeyboard.  One
> thing I'm not sure about is if different keyboards in different
> countries emit different keyboard codes, but I would imagine not.
>
> I implemented keyboard controls like that in blue recently so will
> look to do that tomorrow.  It'll be the same layout as a Tracker, so
> z-m will be a lower octave, then q-p will be another octave and a
> third.
>
> steven
>
> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any other
>> FLTK window, graph or widgets together.
>>
>> Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard
>> so that we can play from the computer keyboard?
>> It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>>
>>> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but only
>>> when running a project where FLTK widgets are *not* there
>>> on Linux.  So FLTK is funny all around! :P
>>>
>>> steven
>>>
>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini 
>>>> wrote: I only tested with an instrument that used fltk
>>>> widgets. The interaction between the two seems to
>>>> be the problem. But Dr. B seems to get it to run,
>>>> I presume without using widgets.
>>>>
>>>> FLTK is funny on OSX.
>>>>
>>>> However, linux is very good: both widgets and keyboard
>>>> work impeccably.
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback!  I've been racking by brain
>>>>> trying to debug this thing to make it run reliably but
>>>>> have to say that I'm not all that versed in FLTK as
>>>>> well as C calling C++ code, so any help in those
>>>>> regards from anyone would be very much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I haven't
>>>>> figured out what in the code is causing that, as to me
>>>>> the code looks like it's doing the right thing.  The
>>>>> keyboard itself only records the note-on when it turns
>>>>> on as well as note-offs, and the MIDI driver part
>>>>> reads and clears back to zero after using it.  Perhaps
>>>>> there's a threading issue somewhere though, I'll keep
>>>> looking. >
>>>>> As for unstable, could you describe it a bit?  Is it
>>>>> window redrawing issues, notes not playing?  (Any info
>>>>> here would help to diagnose what's going on).
>>>>>
>>>>> I was also running this with valgrind and it seems
>>>>> there is a memory leak somewhere, but for the life of
>>>>> me I can't see where it'd possibly leak memory.  It
>>>>> reports something going on in sensMIDI and the midi
>>>>> reading function, but even with everything compiled to
>>>>> debug it has ????'s in the stack trace it gives, so
>>>>> it's been very hard for me to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks though for your time to check it out!  I'll
>>>>> keep on with it to see if I can make any more
>>>> progress. >
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> steven
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>  wrote: actually I got it
>>>>>> working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a little
>>>>> unstable. >
>>>>>> At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>> working here on Linux. But some of the lower notes
>>>>>> seem to >be hanging (might be my own isntrument
>>>>>> though) >
>>>>>>> At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just checked in a project I was working on
>>>>>>> which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi driver.
>>>>>>> It's written as a plugin midi driver >and if you
>>>>>>> run csound using: >
>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop up
>>>>>>> that looks like a >piano keyboard.  Using the
>>>>>>> keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up >will
>>>>>>> fire off MIDI notes.  This should be useful in
>>>>> situations where >you don't have a real MIDI device
>>>>>>> available (testing an orch, when >you're on the
>>>>>>> road, etc.) >
>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if others here can update from
>>>>>>> CVS and give it a >try.  There is one bug in
>>>>>>> particular which I have been having a hard >time
>>>>>>> diagnosing.  It seems that if you run the keyboard
>>>>> either with >--displays or not and the CSD has no FLTK
>>>>>>> widgets, the keyboard window >will eat up CPU (on
>>>>>>> Linux here, the xorg process takes up a lot of
>>>>>>>> it).   Any help with that would be greatly
>>>>>>> appreciated. > >Also, I haven't had a chance to
>>>>>>> run on OSX or Windows myself, so any >reports on
>>>>>>> that would be great. >
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Good Luck with the CPU spike - and other improvements to the keyboard.
The default you describe would be great - when and if you can get to  
it and
if it is possible.

-dB
On Oct 27, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

> Hi Dr. B,
>
> I'm not sure about what is necessary to make this a backup for MIDI
> input and suspect it's not as easy as it sounds due to the way csound
> loads up external plugins and the order in which everything is being
> done.  It might require adding the keyboard into the core library but
> might be a way around that using global signals and storing a
> reference to the midi pointer there (so csound loads, the FLTK module
> inits and adds a function pointer to the global space, csound tries to
> open the given midi device, then if fails, looks to see if that
> function pointer for the fltk keyboard exists and use that if
> available).
>
> I'm really concerned about the CPU spike though as well as solidifying
> the keyboard first; the part to make it a default backup is a lot to
> think about right now so will look at that next.
>
> steven
>
> On 10/27/06, Dr. Richard Boulanger  wrote:
>> I agree that it would be wonderful to play the keyboard from the
>> ascii keyboard as well.
>>
>> -dB
>>
>> Also, while you are at it.  Can you make the keyboard called by
>> default if an actual hardware device is not found?
>>
>> -M0  - no device found - means to substiture -+rtmidi=virtual
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>>> On windows XP, I can't get the keyboard and any other
>>> FLTK window, graph or widgets together.
>>>
>>> Btw, can you do some key bindings for the keyboard
>>> so that we can play from the computer keyboard?
>>> It should be simple with a GUI toolkit like FLTK.
>>>
>>> Victor
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's strange, I do see a performance problem, but only
>>>> when running a project where FLTK widgets are *not* there
>>>> on Linux.  So FLTK is funny all around! :P
>>>>
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini 
>>>>> wrote: I only tested with an instrument that used fltk
>>>>> widgets. The interaction between the two seems to
>>>>> be the problem. But Dr. B seems to get it to run,
>>>>> I presume without using widgets.
>>>>>
>>>>> FLTK is funny on OSX.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, linux is very good: both widgets and keyboard
>>>>> work impeccably.
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your feedback!  I've been racking by brain
>>>>>> trying to debug this thing to make it run reliably but
>>>>>> have to say that I'm not all that versed in FLTK as
>>>>>> well as C calling C++ code, so any help in those
>>>>>> regards from anyone would be very much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do occasionally get hung notes too, but I haven't
>>>>>> figured out what in the code is causing that, as to me
>>>>>> the code looks like it's doing the right thing.  The
>>>>>> keyboard itself only records the note-on when it turns
>>>>>> on as well as note-offs, and the MIDI driver part
>>>>>> reads and clears back to zero after using it.  Perhaps
>>>>>> there's a threading issue somewhere though, I'll keep
>>>>> looking. >
>>>>>> As for unstable, could you describe it a bit?  Is it
>>>>>> window redrawing issues, notes not playing?  (Any info
>>>>>> here would help to diagnose what's going on).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was also running this with valgrind and it seems
>>>>>> there is a memory leak somewhere, but for the life of
>>>>>> me I can't see where it'd possibly leak memory.  It
>>>>>> reports something going on in sensMIDI and the midi
>>>>>> reading function, but even with everything compiled to
>>>>>> debug it has ????'s in the stack trace it gives, so
>>>>>> it's been very hard for me to find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks though for your time to check it out!  I'll
>>>>>> keep on with it to see if I can make any more
>>>>> progress. >
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/27/06, Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>>  wrote: actually I got it
>>>>>>> working on OSX 10.3 here.But it seems a little
>>>>>> unstable. >
>>>>>>> At 17:07 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> working here on Linux. But some of the lower notes
>>>>>>> seem to >be hanging (might be my own isntrument
>>>>>>> though) >
>>>>>>>> At 16:54 27/10/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've just checked in a project I was working on
>>>>>>>> which is an FLTK >virtual keyboard midi driver.
>>>>>>>> It's written as a plugin midi driver >and if you
>>>>>>>> run csound using: >
>>>>>>>>> -+rtmidi=virtual -M0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as your MIDI flags, a keyboard window will pop up
>>>>>>>> that looks like a >piano keyboard.  Using the
>>>>>>>> keyboard with mouse downs, drags, and up >will
>>>>>>>> fire off MIDI notes.  This should be useful in
>>>>>> situations where >you don't have a real MIDI device
>>>>>>>> available (testing an orch, when >you're on the
>>>>>>>> road, etc.) >
>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate it if others here can update from
>>>>>>>> CVS and give it a >try.  There is one bug in
>>>>>>>> particular which I have been having a hard >time
>>>>>>>> diagnosing.  It seems that if you run the keyboard
>>>>>> either with >--displays or not and the CSD has no FLTK
>>>>>>>> widgets, the keyboard window >will eat up CPU (on
>>>>>>>> Linux here, the xorg process takes up a lot of
>>>>>>>>> it).   Any help with that would be greatly
>>>>>>>> appreciated. > >Also, I haven't had a chance to
>>>>>>>> run on OSX or Windows myself, so any >reports on
>>>>>>>> that would be great. >
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> steven
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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