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Date2011-11-18 21:00
Frommichael.gogins@gmail.com
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev]
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Date2011-11-21 09:04
FromØyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
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I have, to my best knowledge followed the instructions in the "How_to_Build_Csound_on_Windows" document.
However, the document does contain a lot more than what is actually needed to build a "simplest possible barebones" version of Csound. It is not always stated clearly in the document what steps are needed for each extra feature one wants to compile. The educated reader will infer what she needs and what she does not need. I am stating this, not as a criticism of the very thorough help document, but to state that mistakes can be made when trying to follow the instructions.
Still, there are build issues that I would expect other users/builders to encounter that are not (to my knowledge) taken care of in the document. These are related to dlgs.h and sftype.h as mentioned in the email thread "compile issue (probably my fault)"


Oeyvind Brandtsegg
Professor of Music Technology
NTNU
7491 Trondheim
Norway

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Did he follow the instructions for building on windows? That is in my document?

Even if one does follow them,.there would be problems. They would arise from the software development toolchain and third party libraries not being as standardized on windows as on linux or od x.

Is that the fault of windows? Maybe it's the fault of microsoft to some extent... I wouldn't say its the fault of windows as an operating system.

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From: "Victor Lazzarini" <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie>
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Subject: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
Date: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 2:00 pm


So why is Oeyvind finding all sorts of trouble when trying to build  Csound on Windows?
On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:48, Michael Gogins wrote:

> Windows 7 as an operating system, in particular, seems quite stable
> and provides a free decent development environment if one installs the
> toolchain described in my document on building Csound on Windows, in
> Csound GIT.

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




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Date2011-11-21 13:21
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
Which target or targets include dlgs.h and sftype.h? Is this the sf
opcode family? If so, I do build those. Sometimes a constant #defined
for one target is #undefined by other or redefined by another, so the
order of #includes can matter.

I don't ever build a "simple" Csound, I only ever build everything
that goes into the installer, that is why the document is the way it
is. I was assuming that taking things out would not cause problems,
but perhaps I was wrong.

Regards,
Mike

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Øyvind Brandtsegg
 wrote:
> I have, to my best knowledge followed the instructions in the
> "How_to_Build_Csound_on_Windows" document.
> However, the document does contain a lot more than what is actually needed
> to build a "simplest possible barebones" version of Csound. It is not always
> stated clearly in the document what steps are needed for each extra feature
> one wants to compile. The educated reader will infer what she needs and what
> she does not need. I am stating this, not as a criticism of the very
> thorough help document, but to state that mistakes can be made when trying
> to follow the instructions.
> Still, there are build issues that I would expect other users/builders to
> encounter that are not (to my knowledge) taken care of in the document.
> These are related to dlgs.h and sftype.h as mentioned in the email thread
> "compile issue (probably my fault)"
>
>
> Oeyvind Brandtsegg
> Professor of Music Technology
> NTNU
> 7491 Trondheim
> Norway
> ________________________________
> Fra: michael.gogins@gmail.com [michael.gogins@gmail.com]
> Sendt: 18. november 2011 22:00
> Til: Developer discussions
> Emne: Re: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
>
> Did he follow the instructions for building on windows? That is in my
> document?
>
> Even if one does follow them,.there would be problems. They would arise from
> the software development toolchain and third party libraries not being as
> standardized on windows as on linux or od x.
>
> Is that the fault of windows? Maybe it's the fault of microsoft to some
> extent... I wouldn't say its the fault of windows as an operating system.
>
> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Victor Lazzarini" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Subject: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
> Date: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 2:00 pm
>
>
> So why is Oeyvind finding all sorts of trouble when trying to build  Csound
> on Windows?
> On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:48, Michael Gogins wrote:
>
>> Windows 7 as an operating system, in particular, seems quite stable
>> and provides a free decent development environment if one installs the
>> toolchain described in my document on building Csound on Windows, in
>> Csound GIT.
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
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