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Date2006-05-24 05:46
Frommatt ingalls
Subject[Cs-dev] vst opcodes
are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
i don't see anything in the framework...



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Date2006-05-24 09:51
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
Could not build them at the time of release, but if I have time,
I can try again.

At 05:46 24/05/2006, you wrote:

>are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
>i don't see anything in the framework...
>
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Date2006-05-24 15:34
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
Last time I tried (a long time ago) they wouldn't build on a mac, giving
a compiler bug warning. I believe (but might be very wrong) that it has
to do with the use of templates, which might not have been supported on
that version of mac gcc. It would be great if someone can get them to
work on a mac. The plugin sources AFAICT don't use any platform specific
code.

Cheers,
Andrés

On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 21:46 -0700, matt ingalls wrote:
> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
> i don't see anything in the framework...
> 
> 
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Date2006-05-24 16:16
FromDavid Akbari
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
What dependencies do these opcodes have ? I'd be interested in seeing 
what's happening with them in addition to the DSSI/LADSPA opcodes on OS 
X.


-David

On May 24, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Last time I tried (a long time ago) they wouldn't build on a mac, 
> giving
> a compiler bug warning. I believe (but might be very wrong) that it has
> to do with the use of templates, which might not have been supported on
> that version of mac gcc. It would be great if someone can get them to
> work on a mac. The plugin sources AFAICT don't use any platform 
> specific
> code.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 21:46 -0700, matt ingalls wrote:
>> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
>> i don't see anything in the framework...


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Date2006-05-24 17:05
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
Hi David,
The VST opcodes depend on the vstsdk from steinberg (version 2.3- a new
version (2.4) came out recently, but the vst opcodes haven't been tested
with it) and fltk. The DSSI opcodes (still unfinished, only LADSPA
support for now...), require the dssi.h header which in turn needs
ladspa.h. I think they should build out of the box on mac, just
modifying SConstruct. It would be great if someone tried them there.

Cheers,
Andrés


 On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 10:16 -0500, David Akbari wrote:
> What dependencies do these opcodes have ? I'd be interested in seeing 
> what's happening with them in addition to the DSSI/LADSPA opcodes on OS 
> X.
> 
> 
> -David
> 
> On May 24, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
> 
> > Last time I tried (a long time ago) they wouldn't build on a mac, 
> > giving
> > a compiler bug warning. I believe (but might be very wrong) that it has
> > to do with the use of templates, which might not have been supported on
> > that version of mac gcc. It would be great if someone can get them to
> > work on a mac. The plugin sources AFAICT don't use any platform 
> > specific
> > code.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andrés
> >
> > On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 21:46 -0700, matt ingalls wrote:
> >> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
> >> i don't see anything in the framework...
> 
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Date2006-05-25 20:36
Frommatt
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
well i was able to build it in an XCode project,  with a couple of  
changes

  -  there were some errors in a pragma in one of Steinberg's files,  
the SDK
	might have been updated.

- i had to comment out one line:
	window = new Fl_Window(rect.right, rect.bottom, GetName());

probably due to my own ignorance.  i couldn't get rid of a link error  
with
that line in. -- i tried adding fltk dylibs to my project but still  
same problem..
does anybody have any suggestions, or am i just cursed by this damned  
FLTK?!!

anyway, it should be ok, i just cannot open any GUI editor the plugin  
provides.
now i have the lib built and csound sees the opcodes, but
i get an error from vstinit opcode -- it can't open any VST file i  
pass it.

i'll try to download the newest VST sdk and see if it changes anything..

thanks,
matt



On May 24, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> Could not build them at the time of release, but if I have time,
> I can try again.
>
> At 05:46 24/05/2006, you wrote:
>
>> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
>> i don't see anything in the framework...
>>
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Date2006-05-25 21:20
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
Hi Matt,
That's interesting news, it's closer to working than my last attempt.
Can you post the changes you had to make to the vst sdk files?
What error are you getting when trying to use vstinit? Are you giving
the full path to the plugin?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 12:36 -0700, matt wrote:
> well i was able to build it in an XCode project,  with a couple of  
> changes
> 
>   -  there were some errors in a pragma in one of Steinberg's files,  
> the SDK
> 	might have been updated.
> 
> - i had to comment out one line:
> 	window = new Fl_Window(rect.right, rect.bottom, GetName());
> 
> probably due to my own ignorance.  i couldn't get rid of a link error  
> with
> that line in. -- i tried adding fltk dylibs to my project but still  
> same problem..
> does anybody have any suggestions, or am i just cursed by this damned  
> FLTK?!!
> 
> anyway, it should be ok, i just cannot open any GUI editor the plugin  
> provides.
> now i have the lib built and csound sees the opcodes, but
> i get an error from vstinit opcode -- it can't open any VST file i  
> pass it.
> 
> i'll try to download the newest VST sdk and see if it changes anything..
> 
> thanks,
> matt
> 
> 
> 
> On May 24, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> 
> > Could not build them at the time of release, but if I have time,
> > I can try again.
> >
> > At 05:46 24/05/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
> >> i don't see anything in the framework...
> >>
> >>
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Date2006-05-25 21:33
FromIstvan Varga
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
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Date2006-05-25 21:44
Frommatt
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
On May 25, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> That's interesting news, it's closer to working than my last attempt.
> Can you post the changes you had to make to the vst sdk files?

the errors were in AEffect.h -- i commented out the 2 instances of

#if PRAGMA_ALIGN_SUPPORTED || __MWERKS__
         #pragma options align=mac68k
#endif


but i'll download the new SDK and see if it works.  i might throw in
some platform-specific mac code to bypass the FLTK window too.



> What error are you getting when trying to use vstinit? Are you giving
> the full path to the plugin?

WARNING! '/Users/matt/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/Imager.vst' was not  
found or is invalid.

>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 12:36 -0700, matt wrote:
>> well i was able to build it in an XCode project,  with a couple of
>> changes
>>
>>   -  there were some errors in a pragma in one of Steinberg's files,
>> the SDK
>> 	might have been updated.
>>
>> - i had to comment out one line:
>> 	window = new Fl_Window(rect.right, rect.bottom, GetName());
>>
>> probably due to my own ignorance.  i couldn't get rid of a link error
>> with
>> that line in. -- i tried adding fltk dylibs to my project but still
>> same problem..
>> does anybody have any suggestions, or am i just cursed by this damned
>> FLTK?!!
>>
>> anyway, it should be ok, i just cannot open any GUI editor the plugin
>> provides.
>> now i have the lib built and csound sees the opcodes, but
>> i get an error from vstinit opcode -- it can't open any VST file i
>> pass it.
>>
>> i'll try to download the newest VST sdk and see if it changes  
>> anything..
>>
>> thanks,
>> matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 24, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>
>>> Could not build them at the time of release, but if I have time,
>>> I can try again.
>>>
>>> At 05:46 24/05/2006, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
>>>> i don't see anything in the framework...
>>>>
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Date2006-05-25 21:57
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
Thanks Matt,
I see two possibilities here... That the csound->OpenLibrary function is
not working properly on mac, or vst plugins on OS X are loaded in some
special way. I would think vst plugins should be dylibs or bundles, and
maybe .vst files are neither. Is there any os x open source vst host we
could take a look at?

Cheers,
Andrés
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 13:44 -0700, matt wrote:
> On May 25, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
> 
> > Hi Matt,
> > That's interesting news, it's closer to working than my last attempt.
> > Can you post the changes you had to make to the vst sdk files?
> 
> the errors were in AEffect.h -- i commented out the 2 instances of
> 
> #if PRAGMA_ALIGN_SUPPORTED || __MWERKS__
>          #pragma options align=mac68k
> #endif
> 
> 
> but i'll download the new SDK and see if it works.  i might throw in
> some platform-specific mac code to bypass the FLTK window too.
> 
> 
> 
> > What error are you getting when trying to use vstinit? Are you giving
> > the full path to the plugin?
> 
> WARNING! '/Users/matt/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/Imager.vst' was not  
> found or is invalid.
> 
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andrés
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 12:36 -0700, matt wrote:
> >> well i was able to build it in an XCode project,  with a couple of
> >> changes
> >>
> >>   -  there were some errors in a pragma in one of Steinberg's files,
> >> the SDK
> >> 	might have been updated.
> >>
> >> - i had to comment out one line:
> >> 	window = new Fl_Window(rect.right, rect.bottom, GetName());
> >>
> >> probably due to my own ignorance.  i couldn't get rid of a link error
> >> with
> >> that line in. -- i tried adding fltk dylibs to my project but still
> >> same problem..
> >> does anybody have any suggestions, or am i just cursed by this damned
> >> FLTK?!!
> >>
> >> anyway, it should be ok, i just cannot open any GUI editor the plugin
> >> provides.
> >> now i have the lib built and csound sees the opcodes, but
> >> i get an error from vstinit opcode -- it can't open any VST file i
> >> pass it.
> >>
> >> i'll try to download the newest VST sdk and see if it changes  
> >> anything..
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 24, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>
> >>> Could not build them at the time of release, but if I have time,
> >>> I can try again.
> >>>
> >>> At 05:46 24/05/2006, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
> >>>> i don't see anything in the framework...
> >>>>
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Date2006-05-25 22:12
Frommatt
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
oh thanks for mentioning that!
sorry, i should have looked at the code before posting anything.
  i didn't see that you were using OpenLibrary().

VST plugins are Mach-O Bundles on the Mac, not dylibs.

Only open source thing i can think of is Audacity -- but i can hunt
around this afternoon..

-m

On May 25, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Thanks Matt,
> I see two possibilities here... That the csound->OpenLibrary  
> function is
> not working properly on mac, or vst plugins on OS X are loaded in some
> special way. I would think vst plugins should be dylibs or bundles,  
> and
> maybe .vst files are neither. Is there any os x open source vst  
> host we
> could take a look at?
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
> On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 13:44 -0700, matt wrote:
>> On May 25, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>> That's interesting news, it's closer to working than my last  
>>> attempt.
>>> Can you post the changes you had to make to the vst sdk files?
>>
>> the errors were in AEffect.h -- i commented out the 2 instances of
>>
>> #if PRAGMA_ALIGN_SUPPORTED || __MWERKS__
>>          #pragma options align=mac68k
>> #endif
>>
>>
>> but i'll download the new SDK and see if it works.  i might throw in
>> some platform-specific mac code to bypass the FLTK window too.
>>
>>
>>
>>> What error are you getting when trying to use vstinit? Are you  
>>> giving
>>> the full path to the plugin?
>>
>> WARNING! '/Users/matt/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/Imager.vst' was not
>> found or is invalid.
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrés
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 12:36 -0700, matt wrote:
>>>> well i was able to build it in an XCode project,  with a couple of
>>>> changes
>>>>
>>>>   -  there were some errors in a pragma in one of Steinberg's  
>>>> files,
>>>> the SDK
>>>> 	might have been updated.
>>>>
>>>> - i had to comment out one line:
>>>> 	window = new Fl_Window(rect.right, rect.bottom, GetName());
>>>>
>>>> probably due to my own ignorance.  i couldn't get rid of a link  
>>>> error
>>>> with
>>>> that line in. -- i tried adding fltk dylibs to my project but still
>>>> same problem..
>>>> does anybody have any suggestions, or am i just cursed by this  
>>>> damned
>>>> FLTK?!!
>>>>
>>>> anyway, it should be ok, i just cannot open any GUI editor the  
>>>> plugin
>>>> provides.
>>>> now i have the lib built and csound sees the opcodes, but
>>>> i get an error from vstinit opcode -- it can't open any VST file i
>>>> pass it.
>>>>
>>>> i'll try to download the newest VST sdk and see if it changes
>>>> anything..
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 24, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Could not build them at the time of release, but if I have time,
>>>>> I can try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> At 05:46 24/05/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
>>>>>> i don't see anything in the framework...
>>>>>>
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Date2006-05-25 22:31
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
I've had a look at vst~ and it loads libraries on all platforms (I'm
pretty sure it works on OS X) using:

h_dll=LoadLibrary(dllname);

and csound->OpenLibrary is just a wrapper for it...
PUBLIC int csoundOpenLibrary(void **library, const char *libraryPath)
{
    *library = (void*) LoadLibrary(libraryPath);
    return (*library != NULL ? 0 : -1);
}

So I'm not sure what's wrong there....

Cheers,
Andrés



On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 14:12 -0700, matt wrote:
> oh thanks for mentioning that!
> sorry, i should have looked at the code before posting anything.
>   i didn't see that you were using OpenLibrary().
> 
> VST plugins are Mach-O Bundles on the Mac, not dylibs.
> 
> Only open source thing i can think of is Audacity -- but i can hunt
> around this afternoon..
> 
> -m
> 
> On May 25, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Matt,
> > I see two possibilities here... That the csound->OpenLibrary  
> > function is
> > not working properly on mac, or vst plugins on OS X are loaded in some
> > special way. I would think vst plugins should be dylibs or bundles,  
> > and
> > maybe .vst files are neither. Is there any os x open source vst  
> > host we
> > could take a look at?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andrés
> > On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 13:44 -0700, matt wrote:
> >> On May 25, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Matt,
> >>> That's interesting news, it's closer to working than my last  
> >>> attempt.
> >>> Can you post the changes you had to make to the vst sdk files?
> >>
> >> the errors were in AEffect.h -- i commented out the 2 instances of
> >>
> >> #if PRAGMA_ALIGN_SUPPORTED || __MWERKS__
> >>          #pragma options align=mac68k
> >> #endif
> >>
> >>
> >> but i'll download the new SDK and see if it works.  i might throw in
> >> some platform-specific mac code to bypass the FLTK window too.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> What error are you getting when trying to use vstinit? Are you  
> >>> giving
> >>> the full path to the plugin?
> >>
> >> WARNING! '/Users/matt/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/Imager.vst' was not
> >> found or is invalid.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Andrés
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 12:36 -0700, matt wrote:
> >>>> well i was able to build it in an XCode project,  with a couple of
> >>>> changes
> >>>>
> >>>>   -  there were some errors in a pragma in one of Steinberg's  
> >>>> files,
> >>>> the SDK
> >>>> 	might have been updated.
> >>>>
> >>>> - i had to comment out one line:
> >>>> 	window = new Fl_Window(rect.right, rect.bottom, GetName());
> >>>>
> >>>> probably due to my own ignorance.  i couldn't get rid of a link  
> >>>> error
> >>>> with
> >>>> that line in. -- i tried adding fltk dylibs to my project but still
> >>>> same problem..
> >>>> does anybody have any suggestions, or am i just cursed by this  
> >>>> damned
> >>>> FLTK?!!
> >>>>
> >>>> anyway, it should be ok, i just cannot open any GUI editor the  
> >>>> plugin
> >>>> provides.
> >>>> now i have the lib built and csound sees the opcodes, but
> >>>> i get an error from vstinit opcode -- it can't open any VST file i
> >>>> pass it.
> >>>>
> >>>> i'll try to download the newest VST sdk and see if it changes
> >>>> anything..
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
> >>>> matt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 24, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Could not build them at the time of release, but if I have time,
> >>>>> I can try again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At 05:46 24/05/2006, you wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> are the vst hosting opcodes supposed to work on the mac?
> >>>>>> i don't see anything in the framework...
> >>>>>>
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Date2006-05-25 22:58
Frommatt
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
On May 25, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
> I've had a look at vst~ and it loads libraries on all platforms (I'm
> pretty sure it works on OS X) using:
>
> h_dll=LoadLibrary(dllname);

really?
i just found some code on  http://achitophelconsulting.com

that looks more what i would expect:

	CFStringRef vstBundlePath = CFStringCreateWithCString 
( kCFAllocatorDefault, path, kCFStringEncodingMacRoman );
	CFURLRef vstBundleURL = CFURLCreateWithFileSystemPath(
							kCFAllocatorDefault,
							vstBundlePath,
							kCFURLPOSIXPathStyle,
							true );
							
	vstBundle =  CFBundleCreate( kCFAllocatorDefault, vstBundleURL );
	CFRelease( vstBundlePath );
	CFRelease( vstBundleURL );
	
	if ( vstBundle == NULL )
	{
		pcLogger.log("Failed to load " + path );
		return NULL;
	}
	
	bundleRes = CFBundleOpenBundleResourceMap( vstBundle );
	
	return  (vstPluginMain) CFBundleGetFunctionPointerForName 
( vstBundle, CFSTR("main_macho") );


i'll play around with it today and let you know if i get it working.



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Date2006-05-26 00:05
Frommatt
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
ok that seems to do it
as far as i can tell, it is working!

- i did notice problems with sample-rates
- and for some reason vstedit has an extra 2nd parameter in the entry  
list
	that is not being used

i will check in my changes --

note this is for MACH-O VST plugins only, the old-style CFM mac vst  
plugins
will not work.

thanks,
-m

On May 25, 2006, at 2:58 PM, matt wrote:

> On May 25, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>> I've had a look at vst~ and it loads libraries on all platforms (I'm
>> pretty sure it works on OS X) using:
>>
>> h_dll=LoadLibrary(dllname);
>
> really?
> i just found some code on  http://achitophelconsulting.com
>
> that looks more what i would expect:
>
> 	CFStringRef vstBundlePath = CFStringCreateWithCString 
> ( kCFAllocatorDefault, path, kCFStringEncodingMacRoman );
> 	CFURLRef vstBundleURL = CFURLCreateWithFileSystemPath(
> 							kCFAllocatorDefault,
> 							vstBundlePath,
> 							kCFURLPOSIXPathStyle,
> 							true );
> 							
> 	vstBundle =  CFBundleCreate( kCFAllocatorDefault, vstBundleURL );
> 	CFRelease( vstBundlePath );
> 	CFRelease( vstBundleURL );
> 	
> 	if ( vstBundle == NULL )
> 	{
> 		pcLogger.log("Failed to load " + path );
> 		return NULL;
> 	}
> 	
> 	bundleRes = CFBundleOpenBundleResourceMap( vstBundle );
> 	
> 	return  (vstPluginMain) CFBundleGetFunctionPointerForName 
> ( vstBundle, CFSTR("main_macho") );
>
>
> i'll play around with it today and let you know if i get it working.
>
>
>
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Date2006-05-26 00:23
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
Excellent, very good news!

Cheers,
Andrés

On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 16:05 -0700, matt wrote:
> ok that seems to do it
> as far as i can tell, it is working!
> 
> - i did notice problems with sample-rates
> - and for some reason vstedit has an extra 2nd parameter in the entry  
> list
> 	that is not being used
> 
> i will check in my changes --
> 
> note this is for MACH-O VST plugins only, the old-style CFM mac vst  
> plugins
> will not work.
> 
> thanks,
> -m
> 
> On May 25, 2006, at 2:58 PM, matt wrote:
> 
> > On May 25, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
> >> I've had a look at vst~ and it loads libraries on all platforms (I'm
> >> pretty sure it works on OS X) using:
> >>
> >> h_dll=LoadLibrary(dllname);
> >
> > really?
> > i just found some code on  http://achitophelconsulting.com
> >
> > that looks more what i would expect:
> >
> > 	CFStringRef vstBundlePath = CFStringCreateWithCString 
> > ( kCFAllocatorDefault, path, kCFStringEncodingMacRoman );
> > 	CFURLRef vstBundleURL = CFURLCreateWithFileSystemPath(
> > 							kCFAllocatorDefault,
> > 							vstBundlePath,
> > 							kCFURLPOSIXPathStyle,
> > 							true );
> > 							
> > 	vstBundle =  CFBundleCreate( kCFAllocatorDefault, vstBundleURL );
> > 	CFRelease( vstBundlePath );
> > 	CFRelease( vstBundleURL );
> > 	
> > 	if ( vstBundle == NULL )
> > 	{
> > 		pcLogger.log("Failed to load " + path );
> > 		return NULL;
> > 	}
> > 	
> > 	bundleRes = CFBundleOpenBundleResourceMap( vstBundle );
> > 	
> > 	return  (vstPluginMain) CFBundleGetFunctionPointerForName 
> > ( vstBundle, CFSTR("main_macho") );
> >
> >
> > i'll play around with it today and let you know if i get it working.
> >
> >
> >
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Date2006-05-26 20:24
FromIstvan Varga
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] vst opcodes
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