I have not updated with SP 1 for Vista. Is that an absolute requirement for 
Csound to run on Vista?

As for 2008 Express Edition, I may do that. Would that run on Vista?

Thanks,
Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Demers" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Trying Microsoft Visual Studio


> Hi Michael,
>
> Have you updated you MSVC 2005 with SP 1 pack for Vista? Since, both of my
> laptops run under Vista, I would like to use your binairies. And why not 
> use
> the 2008 Express Edition with the 2008 SDK?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Michael Gogins" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:30 PM
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Trying Microsoft Visual Studio
>
>> I have made only one change so far to SConstruct, and that is to use a
>> custom=xxx.py option for scons. Of course I will try to preserve the 
>> MinGW
>> build (I will put back the older tools to make sure).
>>
>> All my other changes so far are to the custom options files. There are 
>> now
>> 2
>> for MSVC builds:
>>
>> custom-msvc-debug.py
>> custom-msvc-release.py
>>
>> I have changed the organization of third-party libraries. Essentially all
>> third-party dependencies are in a "U:\" drive which is mapped to a real
>> drive on my PC. Developers could similarly map a "U:" drive on their PCs
>> and
>> be able to use the new custom files in Csound CVS without editing them.
>>
>> Once I figured out why MSVC wasn't running from SCons (you need the whole
>> Environ(ENV=os.environ), not just Environ(PATH=os.environ['PATH']), it
>> started going pretty fast.
>>
>> More and more open source projects come with MSVC solutions that actually
>> build, so I guess this is a trend.
>>
>> I am using MSVC 2005 free edition with Platform SDK 2006, but the latest
>> stable versions of everything else (including SCons).
>>
>> I'm kind of excited by this. I think it will be an improvement -- if I 
>> can
>> get it to go all the way.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "victor" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Trying Microsoft Visual Studio
>>
>>
>>> That's good. Please make sure this does not break the mingw build,
>>> as I rely on that to build my Windows executables. You can use
>>> the already existing MSVC definitions in SConstruct for that.
>>>
>>> Victor
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:27 PM
>>> Subject: [Cs-dev] Trying Microsoft Visual Studio
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regarding building the next version of Csound for Windows, I have
>>>> decided
>>>> to
>>>> attempt to continue to use the existing SConstruct, but get it to work
>>>> with
>>>> the free edition of the Microsoft Visual C++ compiler.
>>>>
>>>> This may introduce a delay or other complications, but I feel it is the
>>>> best
>>>> way forward. The best thing about this, if it works, will be that I can
>>>> easily debug Csound with the excellent Microsoft debugger (the GNU
>>>> debugger
>>>> on Windows is very hard to use and frequently just crashes).
>>>>
>>>> I am now involved in satisfying all of the various dependencies
>>>> (libsndfile,
>>>> PortAudio, portmidi done so far; then FLTK, etc., etc...).
>>>>
>>>> I will keep the list posted with progress and any questions or problems
>>>> I
>>>> run into.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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On a similar note, 

Does this mean i will have to do a service pack 2 update on XP to run your
.exe / compiled installer whatsit of csound? (we discussed this around
alternate builds a few months back Michael...)

if so, i'm going to have to buy a cd from microsoft via the website (So
please, please say no...fingers crossed)


Michael Gogins wrote:
> 
> I have not updated with SP 1 for Vista. Is that an absolute requirement
> for 
> Csound to run on Vista?
> 
> As for 2008 Express Edition, I may do that. Would that run on Vista?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
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http://www.nabble.com/OSC-on-Windows-float-installers-tt13619567.html#a13623974

this is the thread to which i was referring.

I don't know if the issues overlap or not. I do remember last time though it
came up because you wanted to move away from the minGW/msys (sic?) build of
the .exe however...



Tim Mortimer wrote:
> 
> On a similar note, 
> 
> Does this mean i will have to do a service pack 2 update on XP to run your
> .exe / compiled installer whatsit of csound? (we discussed this around
> alternate builds a few months back Michael...)
> 
> if so, i'm going to have to buy a cd from microsoft via the website (So
> please, please say no...fingers crossed)
> 
> 
> Michael Gogins wrote:
>> 
>> I have not updated with SP 1 for Vista. Is that an absolute requirement
>> for 
>> Csound to run on Vista?
>> 
>> As for 2008 Express Edition, I may do that. Would that run on Vista?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
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!! This is Microsoft. The proper question would be whether it  runs on 
XP...or 2000...

Nobody runs Vista "Home Basic", do they?


Richard Dobson


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> Csound to run on Vista?
> 
> As for 2008 Express Edition, I may do that. Would that run on Vista?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Personally i am extremely nervous about any future Music PC upgrade i might
have to perform at the moment.

If Csound on Intel mac can get happening I might be persuaded to change
teams at that point... Vista scares the living bejesus out of me (not to
mention the fact that most of my current Windows audio suite won't run on it
assumedly... A BIG factor in my motivation to embrace Python & Csound for
everything humanly possible from this point forward...)



Richard Dobson wrote:
> 
> !! This is Microsoft. The proper question would be whether it  runs on 
> XP...or 2000...
> 
> Nobody runs Vista "Home Basic", do they?
> 
> 
> Richard Dobson
> 
> 
> Michael Gogins wrote:
>> I have not updated with SP 1 for Vista. Is that an absolute requirement
>> for 
>> Csound to run on Vista?
>> 
>> As for 2008 Express Edition, I may do that. Would that run on Vista?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
> 
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csound DOES work on intel mac.

the only thing at issue is the "MacCsound" frontend, which does run
on intel, but only under rosetta, requiring you to install the PPC  
version
of csound5

-m

On Feb 10, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Tim Mortimer wrote:

>
> Personally i am extremely nervous about any future Music PC upgrade  
> i might
> have to perform at the moment.
>
> If Csound on Intel mac can get happening I might be persuaded to  
> change
> teams at that point... Vista scares the living bejesus out of me  
> (not to
> mention the fact that most of my current Windows audio suite won't  
> run on it
> assumedly... A BIG factor in my motivation to embrace Python &  
> Csound for
> everything humanly possible from this point forward...)
>
>
>
> Richard Dobson wrote:
>>
>> !! This is Microsoft. The proper question would be whether it  runs  
>> on
>> XP...or 2000...
>>
>> Nobody runs Vista "Home Basic", do they?
>>
>>
>> Richard Dobson
>>
>>
>> Michael Gogins wrote:
>>> I have not updated with SP 1 for Vista. Is that an absolute  
>>> requirement
>>> for
>>> Csound to run on Vista?
>>>
>>> As for 2008 Express Edition, I may do that. Would that run on Vista?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
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Yep csound runs like a beauty on intel, better than ppc mac! I can  
confirm that it runs on leopard too.

Peiman

On 10 Feb 2008, at 23:46, matt ingalls wrote:

> csound DOES work on intel mac.
>
> the only thing at issue is the "MacCsound" frontend, which does run
> on intel, but only under rosetta, requiring you to install the PPC
> version
> of csound5
>
> -m
>
> On Feb 10, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Tim Mortimer wrote:
>
>>
>> Personally i am extremely nervous about any future Music PC upgrade
>> i might
>> have to perform at the moment.
>>
>> If Csound on Intel mac can get happening I might be persuaded to
>> change
>> teams at that point... Vista scares the living bejesus out of me
>> (not to
>> mention the fact that most of my current Windows audio suite won't
>> run on it
>> assumedly... A BIG factor in my motivation to embrace Python &
>> Csound for
>> everything humanly possible from this point forward...)
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Dobson wrote:
>>>
>>> !! This is Microsoft. The proper question would be whether it  runs
>>> on
>>> XP...or 2000...
>>>
>>> Nobody runs Vista "Home Basic", do they?
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Dobson
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>> I have not updated with SP 1 for Vista. Is that an absolute
>>>> requirement
>>>> for
>>>> Csound to run on Vista?
>>>>
>>>> As for 2008 Express Edition, I may do that. Would that run on  
>>>> Vista?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
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I'm also throwing my support behind Csound on intel macs.

I purchased the lowest end Intel Macbook they were selling about 6 months
ago.   It smokes my 2.5 year old PPC G5 tower.  Granted, a lot of that might
have to do with the 2 year difference.  However, the desktop was upgraded,
while the macbook was honestly the slowest laptop the Apple store was
pushing at the time.  I was not expecting the speed machine that it is.

Best, 
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> Yep csound runs like a beauty on intel, better than ppc mac! I can  
> confirm that it runs on leopard too.
> 
> Peiman
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