I don't see this so much as a fix, but as an added
feature. Thanks, Steven, for writing it.

>
> Well, the MacClassic frontend has had code and user
> options to deal with these issues I think since the
> original MIT version for the Mac (System 6). There are
> still some shortcomings as I mentioned but I am still
> confused as to what is being fixed?
>
> Is the intention of this change that Csound will be able
> to find sound files, analysis files, and include files
> referenced by the score or orch if they are in the same
> directory even when the user has not specified SFDIR,
> SADIR, SSDIR, and INCDIR?  (For include files, I thought
> it already searched those directories ...)
>
> I will take a look at your new code and see how it affects
> the OS 9 front end and then respond with more feedback.
>
> Anthony
>
>
> Steven Yi wrote on 10/19/06 1:12 PM:
>
> > I've just added code that does this.  If this code
> > doesn't work for you, please let me know.  I think this
> > is behavior that every frontend is going to have to
> > implement, so rather than force everyone to do it, I
> thought it would be better to have it done once in the
> > core.  I already did this a few years ago in blue and it
> > was a easy enough to do in Java, but the idea of fixing
> > up csound5gui and having to implement this in my test
> > scripts for the new parser, that this would need to be
> > fixed in winsound, then thinking about Michael possibly
> implementing it in Silence, etc. and Rory already having
> > done this, made me think it's probably useful enough to
> > just have it just enabled.
>
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It is a wonderful added feature that will make Csound more likely to
work right out of the box for many more first time users.

Thanks Steven.

-dB

On Oct 19, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> I don't see this so much as a fix, but as an added
> feature. Thanks, Steven, for writing it.
>
>>
>> Well, the MacClassic frontend has had code and user
>> options to deal with these issues I think since the
>> original MIT version for the Mac (System 6). There are
>> still some shortcomings as I mentioned but I am still
>> confused as to what is being fixed?
>>
>> Is the intention of this change that Csound will be able
>> to find sound files, analysis files, and include files
>> referenced by the score or orch if they are in the same
>> directory even when the user has not specified SFDIR,
>> SADIR, SSDIR, and INCDIR?  (For include files, I thought
>> it already searched those directories ...)
>>
>> I will take a look at your new code and see how it affects
>> the OS 9 front end and then respond with more feedback.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>> Steven Yi wrote on 10/19/06 1:12 PM:
>>
>>> I've just added code that does this.  If this code
>>> doesn't work for you, please let me know.  I think this
>>> is behavior that every frontend is going to have to
>>> implement, so rather than force everyone to do it, I
>> thought it would be better to have it done once in the
>>> core.  I already did this a few years ago in blue and it
>>> was a easy enough to do in Java, but the idea of fixing
>>> up csound5gui and having to implement this in my test
>>> scripts for the new parser, that this would need to be
>>> fixed in winsound, then thinking about Michael possibly
>> implementing it in Silence, etc. and Rory already having
>>> done this, made me think it's probably useful enough to
>>> just have it just enabled.
>>
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Well I finally understand exactly what we are talking about here.  I did not
realize that the dicussion was started on the other list (I no longer am a
subscriber) and the first message I saw on this topic was John's cryptic "If
the search is to include the location of .orc and .sco, in which order?" (1)

Anyways, the motivation as I see it seems to be to improve the behavior of
all of the new front ends without writing code for each.  This is good -- I
am just a little hesitant because the front end I develop already does a
decent job of dealing with paths in my opinion and I worry about having to
modify it to deal with changed behavior in Csound.  Hopefully, that won't be
an issue.

With luck, the new behavior may even be helpful.  As long as the orc/sco
locations are appended to the search paths AFTER any directories defined by
environment variables or by command-line flags, then I think this will be
good.  (I am trying to think of circumstances where you would not want this
to happen and I cannot come up with anything credible).

On another note though, I will point out to people who are distributing
compositions with samples, etc. and expect Csound to work "out of the box"
for downloaders who are not familiar with it that this is exactly what CSDs
are supposed to be for.  You can embed your samples and all other needed
files directly into a CSD and let Csound automagically handle extracting
them and finding them.  There has not been a need to set any environment
variables or to cd to the right directory under these circumstances for a
long time.

Thanks to Steven and others for their patience.  I will take a look at the
changes in the next few days.

Anthony Kozar
anthonykozar AT sbcglobal DOT net


(1) Looks like I may need to subscribe to the other list (despite the
unwanted volume of mail) since reading once a week or so on Nabble isn't
cutting it ...

Victor Lazzarini wrote on 10/19/06 1:50 PM:

> I don't see this so much as a fix, but as an added
> feature. Thanks, Steven, for writing it.
> 
>> 
>> Well, the MacClassic frontend has had code and user
>> options to deal with these issues I think since the
>> original MIT version for the Mac (System 6). There are
>> still some shortcomings as I mentioned but I am still
>> confused as to what is being fixed?


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