Hi all,

This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please update
to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
number, so it can be correctly identified.

Thanks,
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I am planning to get your binary package and either include it in the  
installer or
add it to the download package.

Victor
On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:41, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please update
> to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
> number, so it can be correctly identified.
>
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Ok, thanks,
Andres

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> I am planning to get your binary package and either include it in the
> installer or
> add it to the download package.
>
> Victorks
> On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:41, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please update
>> to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
>> number, so it can be correctly identified.
>>
>> Thanks,
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I will incorporate these QuteCsound changes in the final Windows
installer as well.

Regards,
Mike

On 9/23/09, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Ok, thanks,
> Andres
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> I am planning to get your binary package and either include it in the
>> installer or
>> add it to the download package.
>>
>> Victorks
>> On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:41, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please update
>>> to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
>>> number, so it can be correctly identified.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
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Is it possible to install BOTH QuteCsound for floats and doubles? My  
new package will
install both frameworks.

Victor
On 23 Sep 2009, at 16:21, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Ok, thanks,
> Andres
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> I am planning to get your binary package and either include it in the
>> installer or
>> add it to the download package.
>>
>> Victorks
>> On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:41, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please  
>>> update
>>> to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
>>> number, so it can be correctly identified.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andrés
>>>
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On Windows, I will package an installer only for either doubles or
floats, depending on which one tests best in terms of both performance
and audio quality.

I will time performance of several representative pieces, and take the
average. This will include both soundfile and sound card renderings.
For the latter of course I will have to see how many oscillators or
whatever can run without breakup.

I will do ABX listening tests, using both studio headphones and studio
monitors, of some numerically challenging instruments.

I will then select the one build that I will package.  Based on prior
experience, where differences in sound quality were quite small, I
would go with the better sounding build even if it is slightly slower,
and I would go with the faster build if it is more than slightly
faster. But I will be listening harder this time, so I am not sure in
advance what value of "slightly slower" would be the critical point.

I will write up my results in a report that I will post to the Csound lists.

I recommend you do the same. I understand that results might differ
according to various factors even on Windows (Windows version, disk
type and size, RAM size and type, other software installed, etc.,
etc., etc.) but one has to start somewhere and this beast, Csound,
needs to be tamed. It needs to be easier to maintain and to install.

Regards,
Mike

On 9/23/09, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> Is it possible to install BOTH QuteCsound for floats and doubles? My
> new package will
> install both frameworks.
>
> Victor
> On 23 Sep 2009, at 16:21, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>
>> Ok, thanks,
>> Andres
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>>> I am planning to get your binary package and either include it in the
>>> installer or
>>> add it to the download package.
>>>
>>> Victorks
>>> On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:41, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please
>>>> update
>>>> to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
>>>> number, so it can be correctly identified.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
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Hi Victor,

It's not possible right now, since QuteCsound will link to whatever
version of the csound lib is present. Since both versions have the
same name, I'm not sure how it would go. Maybe if they are on
different paths, two executables for QuteCsound could be built, each
linking to the appropriate lib.
How are you having both versions in your installer?

Cheers,
Andres

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> Is it possible to install BOTH QuteCsound for floats and doubles? My
> new package will
> install both frameworks.
>
> Victor
> On 23 Sep 2009, at 16:21, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>
>> Ok, thanks,
>> Andres
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>  wrote:
>>> I am planning to get your binary package and either include it in the
>>> installer or
>>> add it to the download package.
>>>
>>> Victorks
>>> On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:41, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please
>>>> update
>>>> to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
>>>> number, so it can be correctly identified.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andrés
>>>>
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On the Mac, they are different: CsoundLib64.framework and  
CsoundLib.framework, they
are installed side-by-side. You can provide qutecsound versions for  
both.

Victor


On 28 Sep 2009, at 16:49, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> Hi Victor,
>
> It's not possible right now, since QuteCsound will link to whatever
> version of the csound lib is present. Since both versions have the
> same name, I'm not sure how it would go. Maybe if they are on
> different paths, two executables for QuteCsound could be built, each
> linking to the appropriate lib.
> How are you having both versions in your installer?
>
> Cheers,
> Andres
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> Is it possible to install BOTH QuteCsound for floats and doubles? My
>> new package will
>> install both frameworks.
>>
>> Victor
>> On 23 Sep 2009, at 16:21, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, thanks,
>>> Andres
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>>>  wrote:
>>>> I am planning to get your binary package and either include it in  
>>>> the
>>>> installer or
>>>> add it to the download package.
>>>>
>>>> Victorks
>>>> On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:41, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is for people packaging QuteCsound for installers. Please
>>>>> update
>>>>> to the latest source of QuteCsound, where I've changed the verison
>>>>> number, so it can be correctly identified.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Andrés
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