It occurs to me that the bit operations should be on unsigned integers
not signed.  Would that change be a problem?

While we are thinking about it, does anyone use these?  & | << >>
operations

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Not I, but mostly because bit-wise operations give me nosebleeds.

On 3 July 2012 18:22, john ffitch  wrote:
> It occurs to me that the bit operations should be on unsigned integers
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> Not I, but mostly because bit-wise operations give me nosebleeds.

There is treatment for  nosebleeds -- I had it done years ago.  Certainly
not a good idea during examinations.....


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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM,   wrote:
>> Not I, but mostly because bit-wise operations give me nosebleeds.
>
> There is treatment for  nosebleeds -- I had it done years ago.  Certainly
> not a good idea during examinations.....
>

I sometimes use bitwise ops, usually for avoiding nested ifs or
complex goto paths.

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I've used them a little bit, to try to create a distortion effect
inspired by the bitsong examples.
I tentatively called the effect at "bitch shifter".... it has very
counterintuitive control parameters and I managed to blow up my laptop
speakers after generating a sound at 270 000 times the intended
amplitude ... ehrm, luckily did not use headphones or i would probably
have a nosebleed too.
Oeyvind

2012/7/3 Justin Smith :
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM,   wrote:
>>> Not I, but mostly because bit-wise operations give me nosebleeds.
>>
>> There is treatment for  nosebleeds -- I had it done years ago.  Certainly
>> not a good idea during examinations.....
>>
>
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Bitch-shifter. Classic.

On 4 July 2012 11:03, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> I've used them a little bit, to try to create a distortion effect
> inspired by the bitsong examples.
> I tentatively called the effect at "bitch shifter".... it has very
> counterintuitive control parameters and I managed to blow up my laptop
> speakers after generating a sound at 270 000 times the intended
> amplitude ... ehrm, luckily did not use headphones or i would probably
> have a nosebleed too.
> Oeyvind
>
> 2012/7/3 Justin Smith :
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM,   wrote:
>>>> Not I, but mostly because bit-wise operations give me nosebleeds.
>>>
>>> There is treatment for  nosebleeds -- I had it done years ago.  Certainly
>>> not a good idea during examinations.....
>>>
>>
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I also have vague plans for a bitchtracker of course...

2012/7/4 Rory Walsh :
> Bitch-shifter. Classic.
>
> On 4 July 2012 11:03, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> I've used them a little bit, to try to create a distortion effect
>> inspired by the bitsong examples.
>> I tentatively called the effect at "bitch shifter".... it has very
>> counterintuitive control parameters and I managed to blow up my laptop
>> speakers after generating a sound at 270 000 times the intended
>> amplitude ... ehrm, luckily did not use headphones or i would probably
>> have a nosebleed too.
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2012/7/3 Justin Smith :
>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM,   wrote:
>>>>> Not I, but mostly because bit-wise operations give me nosebleeds.
>>>>
>>>> There is treatment for  nosebleeds -- I had it done years ago.  Certainly
>>>> not a good idea during examinations.....
>>>>
>>>
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Also, the manual would love to have examples that show the use of these: &&,
<<, >>, &, |, ¬, #. 
If there is an example already it only shows that it works, but not when one
should want to use them....
Anyone?

thanks
Menno

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as I hinted at, this is nothing close to finished, more like a loose experiment,
but I'm happy to share it, and perhaps someone will build upon it.
The section with normalizing the modulation signal as added after my
infamous x270000 blow up, but really tend to make the end result more
boring.... I guess perhaps an additional overdrive step with a hard
limiter might bring back some of the "wildness".
Also, the parameter names, ... hm...they are not so descriptive.

After a nice workshop on particle synthesis and Csound at the
Universität der Kunste in Berlin today, and attending the opening of a
great sound installation by Robert Henke at the Wasserturm in
Prenzlauer berg, I'm phasing into vacation mode, so please forgive me
for posting this clearly unclear sound effect.

Oeyvind


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> On Jul 4, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Oeyvind Brandtsegg wrote:
>
> I also have vague plans for a bitchtracker of course...
>
> 2012/7/4 Rory Walsh :
>
> Bitch-shifter. Classic.
>
>
> On 4 July 2012 11:03, Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>
> I've used them a little bit, to try to create a distortion effect
>
> inspired by the bitsong examples.
>
> I tentatively called the effect at "bitch shifter".... it has very
>
> counterintuitive control parameters and I managed to blow up my laptop
>
> speakers after generating a sound at 270 000 times the intended
>
> amplitude ... ehrm, luckily did not use headphones or i would probably
>
> have a nosebleed too.
>
> Oeyvind
>
>
> 2012/7/3 Justin Smith :
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM,   wrote:
>
> Not I, but mostly because bit-wise operations give me nosebleeds.
>
>
> There is treatment for  nosebleeds -- I had it done years ago.  Certainly
>
> not a good idea during examinations.....
>
>
>
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>
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