| Only when you call a GEN to replace a table. (Say a ftgen call replacing an existing table, or an f-statement on a new section in the score etc.).
Victor
On 14 Jan 2014, at 00:55, peiman khosravi wrote:
> Just to clarify - as I'm about to push out a new version of FFTools which heavily relies on table manipulation. In what context would this be an issue when running csound in pd and max?
>
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> On 13 January 2014 22:37, Rory Walsh wrote:
> I'm happy for you guys to wait. You have enough on your plates. Does
> rewinding the score back to position 0 with the API cause the tables
> to be updated/replaced? The newest Cabbage lets users update and
> replace tables on the fly, so it's nice that this is no longer a
> problem, although I hadn't noticed it myself in testing.
>
> On 13 January 2014 22:18, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> > The ftable code had changed to allow easy interchange with arrays (so oscillators etc could use arrays in place of ftables).
> >
> > Note that if you don't replace tables it's fine. Not sure it warrants a release right now, but not sure what the consensus
> > is.
> >
> > Victor
> > On 13 Jan 2014, at 21:28, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >
> >> Pity we just missed a release. But great that you were able to find
> >> and fix the problem. For now I can simply tell Cabbage users on OSX to
> >> use the last release. Btw, when did this code change in relation to
> >> the last few releases?
> >>
> >> On 13 January 2014 21:14, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>> Well, I found the bug. The ftalloc() code had changed and the table was not being cleared properly. Fixed in GIT develop branch.
> >>>
> >>> Victor
> >>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:59, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> One clue is that if the size changes, it is OK. So it points to the table not being cleared properly.
> >>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:53, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Now comes the little matter of debugging. Maybe John has some ideas.
> >>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:48, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Nicely spotted.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 13 January 2014 20:44, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>> The problem happens when the table is replaced (by whichever means, from the score or using ftgen).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:38, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> OK, now I think I can reproduce the problem now. It seems to be do with replacing the table.
> >>>>>>>> See the CSD below.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -n -d -o dac
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> sr = 44100
> >>>>>>>> ksmps = 64
> >>>>>>>> nchnls = 2
> >>>>>>>> 0dbfs=1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> instr 1
> >>>>>>>> a1 oscili p5, p4, 1
> >>>>>>>> outs a1, a1
> >>>>>>>> endin
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> f1 0 1024 10 1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> s 1
> >>>>>>>> f1 0 1024 10 1
> >>>>>>>> i1 0 2 440 0.5
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:25, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> One thing I find odd is this message:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> end of SECTION 1:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> when I start the instrument. The function table then gets replaced. I wonder if that's where the issue is.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:21, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ah, I thought you were well past 10.6.8! The very latest 10.6.8 is
> >>>>>>>>>> available here:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/cabbageaudio/cabbage/releases
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 13 January 2014 20:19, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> No, I needed the 10.6. i got it running now, had to kill the old preferences that were in my system and now it opens fine. I am getting the funny waveshape too.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 20:12, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, sorry, try the version Eamon posted here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://thecabbagefoundation.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=364
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 January 2014 20:10, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want to build it, isn't there a built version? The one I downloaded opens up with no menus or anything. The menu bar shows "Cabbage Plugin".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 19:27, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note, that I can't try this on OSX as I can't install the latest
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Csound on my 10.6.8 machine. I'm stuck with the first Csound 6 release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on OSX.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 January 2014 19:26, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest can be found here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/cabbageaudio/cabbage
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you unzip it you should open the Cabbage Xcode project and update
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the compiler settings. You don't need to worry about the plugin stuff.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever happens in the standalone happen in the plugin too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 January 2014 19:22, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's the link for Cabbage OSX 10.6 download? I've downloaded something that is dated 19 Dec, but there must a new one. This
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one starts but gives no menus or anything to open a CSD.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 18:48, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, it look like it starts drawing a wave at 1/2 or 1/3 period length, and with lower amplitude, overwriting the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of the table. Very odd.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 18:42, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the screenshot. Seems that the error is proportional to the table
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length rather than at a specific index point?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 January 2014 18:41, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same results with those. Check the screenshot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 January 2014 18:10, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you compare the shapes of tables of various sizes to see if they have the same distortion? Also can you try using GEn 09 and 19 to see if the result is the same?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 18:00, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, from the command line everything is fine. It's strange. I'm not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manipulating the tables in any way on startup or otherwise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 January 2014 17:54, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the picture, it looks like the initial section of the wave is being overwritten (by a a sine with a smaller period),
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is also the impression I had by looking at the generated waveform.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it work correctly if you run the same CSD in the command-line?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jan 2014, at 16:38, Rory Walsh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create the table in the score section. If I create more than one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table in the score section I get the same behaviour. Creating the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table with an ftgen in instr0 works fine. I've attached two
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots of the output from tables in ascii. Clearly there is a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
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