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[Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows

Date2011-11-18 18:00
FromJohn ff
Subject[Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
Why does this happen?  I rebooted and now it installs


>> Anyone able to assist?  I d/load a python-2.7.2.msi file but it fails
>> to install.  I get a "preparing to install..." dialog box and after a
>> considerable wait it says "Windows Installer Service could not be
>> assessed" and some waffle about safe mode (no).  What next?

>>   As you may be aware I am not a windows users unless I have to.

==John ffitch

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Date2011-11-18 18:01
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
It's a feature! :P

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, John ff  wrote:
>
> Why does this happen?  I rebooted and now it installs
>
>
>>> Anyone able to assist?  I d/load a python-2.7.2.msi file but it fails
>>> to install.  I get a "preparing to install..." dialog box and after a
>>> considerable wait it says "Windows Installer Service could not be
>>> assessed" and some waffle about safe mode (no).  What next?
>
>>>   As you may be aware I am not a windows users unless I have to.
>
> ==John ffitch
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
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Date2011-11-18 18:10
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
On Windows, if something does not work, reboot. If it does not work again, re-install Windows.
On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:01, Steven Yi wrote:

> It's a feature! :P
> 
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, John ff  wrote:
>> 
>> Why does this happen?  I rebooted and now it installs
>> 
>> 
>>>> Anyone able to assist?  I d/load a python-2.7.2.msi file but it fails
>>>> to install.  I get a "preparing to install..." dialog box and after a
>>>> considerable wait it says "Windows Installer Service could not be
>>>> assessed" and some waffle about safe mode (no).  What next?
>> 
>>>>   As you may be aware I am not a windows users unless I have to.
>> 
>> ==John ffitch
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
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> 
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> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, 
> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this 
> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




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Date2011-11-18 18:25
FromJohn Lato
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
I have on at least on occasion witnessed a Windows computer (Win95)
eventually fix itself after 5 consecutive reboots!

I'm not certain if this gives me more or less confidence in Windows...

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> On Windows, if something does not work, reboot. If it does not work again, re-install Windows.
> On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:01, Steven Yi wrote:
>
>> It's a feature! :P
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, John ff  wrote:
>>>
>>> Why does this happen?  I rebooted and now it installs
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Anyone able to assist?  I d/load a python-2.7.2.msi file but it fails
>>>>> to install.  I get a "preparing to install..." dialog box and after a
>>>>> considerable wait it says "Windows Installer Service could not be
>>>>> assessed" and some waffle about safe mode (no).  What next?
>>>
>>>>>   As you may be aware I am not a windows users unless I have to.
>>>
>>> ==John ffitch
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>

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Date2011-11-18 18:48
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
For what it's worth, and I am opposed to many of Microsoft's business
practices, as a longtime user of Windows, Solaris, and various
distributions of Linux over the years, I can only say that I find
Microsoft software today generally reliable and efficient.

Windows 7 as an operating system, in particular, seems quite stable
and provides a free decent development environment if one installs the
toolchain described in my document on building Csound on Windows, in
Csound GIT.

It was not always thus. Windows prior to Windows XP was noticeably
inferior to the other operating systems I used in the same period. But
Windows has gotten much better. I would say my experience with Ubuntu
Linux and my experience with Windows 7 are about on a par as far as
the "user experience" and stability go.

This issue of quality is separate from the issue of which operating
system is the best for running Csound. I think that depends on one's
background and purposes. I would think Linux would be better for
researchers and algorithmic composers, OS X better for live and studio
musicians, Windows would support most of the same good commercial
music software but is not as widely used.

It's also amusing to note that, although Unix and its hacker culture
is the father of OS X, which must therefore almost be considered a
kind of Unix, which Linux is not quite, OS X as a software ecosystem
is not nearly as "hackish" and is pervaded with a commercial ethos,
which I find of concern in some ways.

To wind up my digression, since Unix and Unix-like operating systems
run almost all smartphones and many personal computers, I think it
more plausible now than I used to that Posix will "win" some day and
this whole business of cross-platform development will change.

Regards,
Mike

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, John Lato  wrote:
> I have on at least on occasion witnessed a Windows computer (Win95)
> eventually fix itself after 5 consecutive reboots!
>
> I'm not certain if this gives me more or less confidence in Windows...
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> On Windows, if something does not work, reboot. If it does not work again, re-install Windows.
>> On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:01, Steven Yi wrote:
>>
>>> It's a feature! :P
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, John ff  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why does this happen?  I rebooted and now it installs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone able to assist?  I d/load a python-2.7.2.msi file but it fails
>>>>>> to install.  I get a "preparing to install..." dialog box and after a
>>>>>> considerable wait it says "Windows Installer Service could not be
>>>>>> assessed" and some waffle about safe mode (no).  What next?
>>>>
>>>>>>   As you may be aware I am not a windows users unless I have to.
>>>>
>>>> ==John ffitch
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>>>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>>>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>>>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://www.michael-gogins.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

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Date2011-11-18 19:00
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
So why is Oeyvind finding all sorts of trouble when trying to build  Csound on Windows?
On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:48, Michael Gogins wrote:

> Windows 7 as an operating system, in particular, seems quite stable
> and provides a free decent development environment if one installs the
> toolchain described in my document on building Csound on Windows, in
> Csound GIT.

Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




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contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, 
security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this 
data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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Date2011-11-18 19:15
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
Windows 7 does seem to run quite well. What worries me is talk of Windows 8:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/microsoft-developers-windows-8/

Rory.


On 18 November 2011 19:00, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> So why is Oeyvind finding all sorts of trouble when trying to build  Csound on Windows?
> On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:48, Michael Gogins wrote:
>
>> Windows 7 as an operating system, in particular, seems quite stable
>> and provides a free decent development environment if one installs the
>> toolchain described in my document on building Csound on Windows, in
>> Csound GIT.
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>

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security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this 
data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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Date2011-11-18 19:53
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
Oh dear. Maybe it's time to prepare to ditch the mothership?
On 18 Nov 2011, at 19:15, Rory Walsh wrote:

> Windows 7 does seem to run quite well. What worries me is talk of Windows 8:
> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/microsoft-developers-windows-8/
> 
> Rory.
> 
> 
> On 18 November 2011 19:00, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> So why is Oeyvind finding all sorts of trouble when trying to build  Csound on Windows?
>> On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:48, Michael Gogins wrote:
>> 
>>> Windows 7 as an operating system, in particular, seems quite stable
>>> and provides a free decent development environment if one installs the
>>> toolchain described in my document on building Csound on Windows, in
>>> Csound GIT.
>> 
>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>> Senior Lecturer
>> Dept. of Music
>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure 
> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, 
> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this 
> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
> _______________________________________________
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Dr Victor Lazzarini
Senior Lecturer
Dept. of Music
NUI Maynooth Ireland
tel.: +353 1 708 3545
Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie




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contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, 
security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this 
data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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Date2011-11-18 20:01
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
I ditched her a few years back. I do all my teaching and music on
Linux now. Of course I visit regularly for development, but I have to
admit I've become very fond of Visual Studio. How could I not, the
latest version comes with a MS-Word style syntax checker. As soon as a
piece of code is incorrect it gives me a squiggly red line! Happy
days.



On 18 November 2011 19:53, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> Oh dear. Maybe it's time to prepare to ditch the mothership?
> On 18 Nov 2011, at 19:15, Rory Walsh wrote:
>
>> Windows 7 does seem to run quite well. What worries me is talk of Windows 8:
>> http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/06/microsoft-developers-windows-8/
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> On 18 November 2011 19:00, Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>> So why is Oeyvind finding all sorts of trouble when trying to build  Csound on Windows?
>>> On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:48, Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows 7 as an operating system, in particular, seems quite stable
>>>> and provides a free decent development environment if one installs the
>>>> toolchain described in my document on building Csound on Windows, in
>>>> Csound GIT.
>>>
>>> Dr Victor Lazzarini
>>> Senior Lecturer
>>> Dept. of Music
>>> NUI Maynooth Ireland
>>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
>>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
>> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
>> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>
> Dr Victor Lazzarini
> Senior Lecturer
> Dept. of Music
> NUI Maynooth Ireland
> tel.: +353 1 708 3545
> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure
> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance,
> security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this
> data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>

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Date2011-11-18 20:49
FromTito Latini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Installing Python on Windows
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