[Cs-dev] MIDI changes - files with multiple tracks are now supported
Date | 2005-02-26 10:31 |
From | Istvan Varga |
Subject | [Cs-dev] MIDI changes - files with multiple tracks are now supported |
2005-02-25 Istvan Varga |
Date | 2005-02-26 20:50 |
From | Iain Duncan |
Subject | Re: [Cs-dev] MIDI changes - files with multiple tracks are now supported |
Nice!!! Thanks again Istvan. Have you been remembering to eat and sleep lately too? Iain Istvan Varga wrote: > 2005-02-25 Istvan Varga |
Date | 2005-02-26 21:32 |
From | steven yi |
Subject | [Cs-dev] Midifile Test |
Attachments | chopin.mid fluidops-test3.csd |
Hi All, I did a little more testing with Midifiles. I modified Dave's example to use a simple sine instrument. The rendering doesn't sound correct to my ear, but since I don't ever use Midi files, I'm not positive my test file is a good test. I've attached the test files here. Some notes don't ever seem to turn off, but that got me to wondering if Csound is respecting the damper pedal controller and that it might be used in the chopin.mid. I started to go through code to figure out what was going on, but this is all foreign territory for me, so if others can take a look as well, that'd be great. Thanks all, steven |
Date | 2005-02-26 22:56 |
From | Istvan Varga |
Subject | Re: [Cs-dev] Midifile Test |
steven yi wrote: > I did a little more testing with Midifiles. I modified Dave's example > to use a simple sine instrument. The rendering doesn't sound correct to > my ear, but since I don't ever use Midi files, I'm not positive my test > file is a good test. I've attached the test files here. Some notes > don't ever seem to turn off, but that got me to wondering if Csound is > respecting the damper pedal controller and that it might be used in the > chopin.mid. Indeed, this MIDI file does make use of the sustain pedal controller (64). However, the actual problem is that it is expected to be played with a piano-like instrument that has an exponential decay. When played with a sequencer, after setting an instrument that does not decay, the file sounds just as bad as with Csound. Controller 64 is actually used (although it is not sure if always correctly) by Csound, and does hold and terminate note events as expected. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net |
Date | 2005-02-26 23:02 |
From | Iain Duncan |
Subject | Re: [Cs-dev] Midifile Test |
> Indeed, this MIDI file does make use of the sustain pedal controller (64). > However, the actual problem is that it is expected to be played with a > piano-like instrument that has an exponential decay. When played with a > sequencer, after setting an instrument that does not decay, the file > sounds just as bad as with Csound. > Controller 64 is actually used (although it is not sure if always > correctly) by Csound, and does hold and terminate note events as expected. I assume that can be turned off? One thing I would dearly dearly love to see in Csound5 is the ability to disable *all* default midi behaviour and midi printf. We should be able to use midi input without any assumptions about how we are using it ... I would even go so far as to ask that we able to send any packet combination with midiout/midiin even if they are not valid midi messages, as this can be very useful when making custom hardware. iain ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net |
Date | 2005-02-27 00:04 |
From | steven yi |
Subject | Re: [Cs-dev] Midifile Test |
Hi Istvan, Thanks for checking this out. I will have to investigate then how instrument offtim is used with midi-initiated notes and how to program against that with the fluid opcodes. It seems that if one would want to route the midi sustain controller to fluid then one should be able to as well; will have to look at that too. Thanks for the help! steven Istvan Varga wrote: > steven yi wrote: > >> I did a little more testing with Midifiles. I modified Dave's example >> to use a simple sine instrument. The rendering doesn't sound correct to >> my ear, but since I don't ever use Midi files, I'm not positive my test >> file is a good test. I've attached the test files here. Some notes >> don't ever seem to turn off, but that got me to wondering if Csound is >> respecting the damper pedal controller and that it might be used in the >> chopin.mid. > > > Indeed, this MIDI file does make use of the sustain pedal controller > (64). > However, the actual problem is that it is expected to be played with a > piano-like instrument that has an exponential decay. When played with a > sequencer, after setting an instrument that does not decay, the file > sounds just as bad as with Csound. > Controller 64 is actually used (although it is not sure if always > correctly) by Csound, and does hold and terminate note events as > expected. > > ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net |