Re: [Cs-dev]

Re: [Cs-dev]

Date	2012-06-29 11:07
From	michael.gogins@gmail.com
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev]
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Date	2012-07-02 19:12
From	Andres Cabrera
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	Hi, I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? Cheers, Andrés On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com wrote: > I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to > manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control > and this was not much work. > > T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Steven Yi" > To: "Developer discussions" > Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress > Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm > > > Hi Andres, > > Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you > can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. > Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions > come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just > csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared > to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until > proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for > many years without much issues). > > Thanks! > steven > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >> >> Cheers, >> Andrés >> >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >> wrote: >>> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >>> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >>> have used them all! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mike >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >>>> >>>> http://csound.sf.net/blog >>>> >>>> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >>>> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >>>> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >>>> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >>>> csound.sf.net than the current page. >>>> >>>> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >>>> >>>> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >>>> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >>>> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >>>> bump you up to "editor" role. >>>> >>>> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >>>> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >>>> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >>>> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> steven >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>>> Discussions >>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>>> malware >>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Gogins >>> Irreducible Productions >>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.s

Date	2012-07-02 22:18
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) Thanks steven On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote: > Hi, > > I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but > whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does > self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? > > Cheers, > Andrés > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com > wrote: >> I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to >> manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control >> and this was not much work. >> >> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >> >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Steven Yi" >> To: "Developer discussions" >> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress >> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm >> >> >> Hi Andres, >> >> Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you >> can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. >> Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions >> come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just >> csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared >> to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until >> proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for >> many years without much issues). >> >> Thanks! >> steven >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >>> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >>> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >>> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >>> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >>> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Andrés >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >>> wrote: >>>> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >>>> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >>>> have used them all! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >>>>> >>>>> http://csound.sf.net/blog >>>>> >>>>> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >>>>> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >>>>> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >>>>> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >>>>> csound.sf.net than the current page. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >>>>> >>>>> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >>>>> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >>>>> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >>>>> bump you up to "editor" role. >>>>> >>>>> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >>>>> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >>>>> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >>>>> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> steven >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>>>> Discussions >>>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>>>> malware >>>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael Gogins >>>> Irreducible Productions >>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-07-03 15:55
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
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	Did you see this? http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) Thanks steven On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? Cheers, Andrés On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote: I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control and this was not much work. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network ----- Reply message ----- From: "Steven Yi" <stevenyi@gmail.com> To: "Developer discussions" <csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm Hi Andres, Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for many years without much issues). Thanks! steven On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? Cheers, Andrés On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote: Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I have used them all! Regards, Mike On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: Hi All, I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: http://csound.sf.net/blog I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for csound.sf.net than the current page. Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will bump you up to "editor" role. Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into a self-installed MediaWiki instance. Thanks! steven ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel -- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://www.michael-gogins.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

Date	2012-07-03 16:30
From	Felipe Sateler
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	I've been thinking about this, and I'm not sure what is the value offered by having a separate site at csound.sf.net. A good part of the content is duplicated between csounds.com and csound.sf.net. There are good reasons for a dev site for csound, but it could be hosted in csounds.com/develop or something like that. Then, csound.sf.net could just be a redirect. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Did you see this? > http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ > > On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: > > Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd > have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like > csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of > making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress > version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining > the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. > The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a > WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if > we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) > > Thanks > steven > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera > wrote: > > Hi, > > > I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but > > whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does > > self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? > > > Cheers, > > Andrés > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com > > wrote: > > I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to > > manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control > > and this was not much work. > > > T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network > > > > ----- Reply message ----- > > From: "Steven Yi" > > To: "Developer discussions" > > Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress > > Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm > > > > Hi Andres, > > > Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you > > can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. > > Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions > > come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just > > csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared > > to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until > > proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for > > many years without much issues). > > > Thanks! > > steven > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera > > wrote: > > Hi, > > > I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to > > ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain > > security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well > > ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering > > hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would > > be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? > > > Cheers, > > Andrés > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins > > wrote: > > Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the > > best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I > > have used them all! > > > Regards, > > Mike > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi wrote: > > Hi All, > > > I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: > > > http://csound.sf.net/blog > > > I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to > > the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to > > add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) > > amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for > > csound.sf.net than the current page. > > > Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? > > > BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default > > role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to > > help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will > > bump you up to "editor" role. > > > Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, > > meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration > > instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into > > a self-installed MediaWiki instance. > > > Thanks! > > steven > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > > Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in > > malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > > -- > > Michael Gogins > > Irreducible Productions > > http://www.michael-gogins.com > > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.s

Date	2012-07-03 16:34
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	Yes, I saw it a week or so ago and that's how I figured out it how to install Wordpress on sf.net manually. The current csound.sf.net is using a self-installed version, not the hosted apps. The wiki on sf.net/projects/csound will need to migrated soon, but I have not seen instructions on migrating that on their site yet. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Did you see this? > http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ > > On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: > > Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd > have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like > csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of > making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress > version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining > the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. > The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a > WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if > we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) > > Thanks > steven > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera > wrote: > > Hi, > > > I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but > > whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does > > self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? > > > Cheers, > > Andrés > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com > > wrote: > > I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to > > manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control > > and this was not much work. > > > T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network > > > > ----- Reply message ----- > > From: "Steven Yi" > > To: "Developer discussions" > > Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress > > Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm > > > > Hi Andres, > > > Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you > > can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. > > Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions > > come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just > > csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared > > to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until > > proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for > > many years without much issues). > > > Thanks! > > steven > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera > > wrote: > > Hi, > > > I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to > > ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain > > security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well > > ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering > > hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would > > be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? > > > Cheers, > > Andrés > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins > > wrote: > > Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the > > best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I > > have used them all! > > > Regards, > > Mike > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi wrote: > > Hi All, > > > I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: > > > http://csound.sf.net/blog > > > I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to > > the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to > > add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) > > amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for > > csound.sf.net than the current page. > > > Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? > > > BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default > > role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to > > help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will > > bump you up to "editor" role. > > > Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, > > meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration > > instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into > > a self-installed MediaWiki instance. > > > Thanks! > > steven > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > > Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in > > malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > > -- > > Michael Gogins > > Irreducible Productions > > http://www.michael-gogins.com > > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Csound-devel mailing list > > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-07-03 16:45
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	This is something to think about too, and should be part of the discussion. Right now this is targetted as a replacement for the current csound.sf.net, which has out of date download links and other things. I can imagine this being a more developer focused site and one which developers could update easily, while the csounds.com site being the community site it always has been. I know in the past that the developer related stuff could sometimes put off some non-technical users, so I can see value in having a separate site. On the other hand, if we want to do a redirect, it is very simple (I use one for blue's sf.net site). I can also see value in doing everything at csounds.com. I don't really have a preference, except that the current csound.sf.net should be updated to newer content. Whether that's to wordpress on csound.sf.net, or a redirect to csounds.com, doesn't much matter to me. steven On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > I've been thinking about this, and I'm not sure what is the value > offered by having a separate site at csound.sf.net. A good part of the > content is duplicated between csounds.com and csound.sf.net. > > There are good reasons for a dev site for csound, but it could be > hosted in csounds.com/develop or something like that. Then, > csound.sf.net could just be a redirect. > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> Did you see this? >> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ >> >> On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: >> >> Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd >> have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like >> csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of >> making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress >> version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining >> the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. >> The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a >> WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if >> we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) >> >> Thanks >> steven >> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but >> >> whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does >> >> self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Andrés >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com >> >> wrote: >> >> I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to >> >> manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control >> >> and this was not much work. >> >> >> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >> >> >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> >> From: "Steven Yi" >> >> To: "Developer discussions" >> >> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress >> >> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm >> >> >> >> Hi Andres, >> >> >> Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you >> >> can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. >> >> Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions >> >> come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just >> >> csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared >> >> to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until >> >> proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for >> >> many years without much issues). >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> steven >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera >> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >> >> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >> >> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >> >> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >> >> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >> >> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Andrés >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >> >> wrote: >> >> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >> >> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >> >> have used them all! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >> >> >> http://csound.sf.net/blog >> >> >> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >> >> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >> >> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >> >> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >> >> csound.sf.net than the current page. >> >> >> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >> >> >> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >> >> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >> >> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >> >> bump you up to "editor" role. >> >> >> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >> >> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >> >> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >> >> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> steven >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >> Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >> malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Gogins >> >> Irreducible Productions >> >> http://www.michael-gogins.com >> >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> > > > > -- > > Saludos, > Felipe Sateler > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-07-03 18:16
From	"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	I prefer this. And would be ver happy for Steven to run it from there and install all the apps he might need to do so? Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > I've been thinking about this, and I'm not sure what is the value > offered by having a separate site at csound.sf.net. A good part of the > content is duplicated between csounds.com and csound.sf.net. > > There are good reasons for a dev site for csound, but it could be > hosted in csounds.com/develop or something like that. Then, > csound.sf.net could just be a redirect. > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> Did you see this? >> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ >> >> On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: >> >> Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd >> have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like >> csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of >> making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress >> version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining >> the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. >> The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a >> WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if >> we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) >> >> Thanks >> steven >> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but >> >> whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does >> >> self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Andrés >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com >> >> wrote: >> >> I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to >> >> manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control >> >> and this was not much work. >> >> >> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >> >> >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> >> From: "Steven Yi" >> >> To: "Developer discussions" >> >> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress >> >> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm >> >> >> >> Hi Andres, >> >> >> Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you >> >> can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. >> >> Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions >> >> come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just >> >> csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared >> >> to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until >> >> proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for >> >> many years without much issues). >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> steven >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera >> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >> >> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >> >> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >> >> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >> >> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >> >> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Andrés >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >> >> wrote: >> >> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >> >> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >> >> have used them all! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >> >> >> http://csound.sf.net/blog >> >> >> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >> >> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >> >> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >> >> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >> >> csound.sf.net than the current page. >> >> >> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >> >> >> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >> >> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >> >> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >> >> bump you up to "editor" role. >> >> >> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >> >> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >> >> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >> >> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> steven >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >> Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >> malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Gogins >> >> Irreducible Productions >> >> http://www.michael-gogins.com >> >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> > > > > -- > > Saludos, > Felipe Sateler > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https:

Date	2012-07-03 18:17
From	"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	Would love you to do it all through Csounds.com Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Steven Yi wrote: > This is something to think about too, and should be part of the > discussion. Right now this is targetted as a replacement for the > current csound.sf.net, which has out of date download links and other > things. I can imagine this being a more developer focused site and > one which developers could update easily, while the csounds.com site > being the community site it always has been. I know in the past that > the developer related stuff could sometimes put off some non-technical > users, so I can see value in having a separate site. > > On the other hand, if we want to do a redirect, it is very simple (I > use one for blue's sf.net site). > I can also see value in doing everything at csounds.com. > > I don't really have a preference, except that the current > csound.sf.net should be updated to newer content. Whether that's to > wordpress on csound.sf.net, or a redirect to csounds.com, doesn't much > matter to me. > > steven > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> I've been thinking about this, and I'm not sure what is the value >> offered by having a separate site at csound.sf.net. A good part of the >> content is duplicated between csounds.com and csound.sf.net. >> >> There are good reasons for a dev site for csound, but it could be >> hosted in csounds.com/develop or something like that. Then, >> csound.sf.net could just be a redirect. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Victor Lazzarini >> wrote: >>> Did you see this? >>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ >>> >>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: >>> >>> Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd >>> have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like >>> csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of >>> making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress >>> version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining >>> the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. >>> The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a >>> WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if >>> we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) >>> >>> Thanks >>> steven >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but >>> >>> whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does >>> >>> self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Andrés >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to >>> >>> manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control >>> >>> and this was not much work. >>> >>> >>> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> >>> From: "Steven Yi" >>> >>> To: "Developer discussions" >>> >>> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress >>> >>> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Andres, >>> >>> >>> Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you >>> >>> can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. >>> >>> Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions >>> >>> come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just >>> >>> csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared >>> >>> to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until >>> >>> proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for >>> >>> many years without much issues). >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> steven >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >>> >>> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >>> >>> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >>> >>> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >>> >>> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >>> >>> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Andrés >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >>> >>> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >>> >>> have used them all! >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> >>> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >>> >>> >>> http://csound.sf.net/blog >>> >>> >>> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >>> >>> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >>> >>> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >>> >>> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >>> >>> csound.sf.net than the current page. >>> >>> >>> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >>> >>> >>> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >>> >>> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >>> >>> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >>> >>> bump you up to "editor" role. >>> >>> >>> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >>> >>> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >>> >>> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >>> >>> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> steven >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> >>> Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> >>> malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Gogins >>> >>> Irreducible Productions >>> >>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> Senior Lecturer >>> Dept. of Music >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Saludos, >> Felipe Sateler >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.source

Date	2012-07-03 18:41
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
Attachments	None None
	Thats good with me and solves the outdated csound.sf.net content issue. Unless I hear anything from anyone else I will modify the csound.sf.net page to redirect to csounds.com. (Next step then is to get iOS and Android pages there as well as developer info). On Jul 3, 2012 7:18 PM, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote: Would love you to do it all through Csounds.com Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: > This is something to think about too, and should be part of the > discussion. Right now this is targetted as a replacement for the > current csound.sf.net, which has out of date download links and other > things. I can imagine this being a more developer focused site and > one which developers could update easily, while the csounds.com site > being the community site it always has been. I know in the past that > the developer related stuff could sometimes put off some non-technical > users, so I can see value in having a separate site. > > On the other hand, if we want to do a redirect, it is very simple (I > use one for blue's sf.net site). > I can also see value in doing everything at csounds.com. > > I don't really have a preference, except that the current > csound.sf.net should be updated to newer content. Whether that's to > wordpress on csound.sf.net, or a redirect to csounds.com, doesn't much > matter to me. > > steven > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Felipe Sateler <fsateler@gmail.com> wrote: >> I've been thinking about this, and I'm not sure what is the value >> offered by having a separate site at csound.sf.net. A good part of the >> content is duplicated between csounds.com and csound.sf.net. >> >> There are good reasons for a dev site for csound, but it could be >> hosted in csounds.com/develop or something like that. Then, >> csound.sf.net could just be a redirect. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Victor Lazzarini >> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote: >>> Did you see this? >>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ >>> >>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: >>> >>> Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd >>> have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like >>> csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of >>> making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress >>> version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining >>> the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. >>> The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a >>> WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if >>> we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) >>> >>> Thanks >>> steven >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but >>> >>> whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does >>> >>> self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Andrés >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com >>> >>> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to >>> >>> manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control >>> >>> and this was not much work. >>> >>> >>> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> >>> From: "Steven Yi" <stevenyi@gmail.com> >>> >>> To: "Developer discussions" <csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> >>> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress >>> >>> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Andres, >>> >>> >>> Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you >>> >>> can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. >>> >>> Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions >>> >>> come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just >>> >>> csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared >>> >>> to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until >>> >>> proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for >>> >>> many years without much issues). >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> steven >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >>> >>> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >>> >>> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >>> >>> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >>> >>> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >>> >>> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Andrés >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >>> >>> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >>> >>> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >>> >>> have used them all! >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> >>> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >>> >>> >>> http://csound.sf.net/blog >>> >>> >>> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >>> >>> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >>> >>> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >>> >>> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >>> >>> csound.sf.net than the current page. >>> >>> >>> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >>> >>> >>> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >>> >>> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >>> >>> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >>> >>> bump you up to "editor" role. >>> >>> >>> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >>> >>> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >>> >>> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >>> >>> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> steven >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> >>> Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> >>> malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Gogins >>> >>> Irreducible Productions >>> >>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> Senior Lecturer >>> Dept. of Music >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Saludos, >> Felipe Sateler >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel

Date	2012-07-03 19:15
From	"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
Attachments	None None
	Awesome! Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: Thats good with me and solves the outdated csound.sf.net content issue. Unless I hear anything from anyone else I will modify the csound.sf.net page to redirect to csounds.com. (Next step then is to get iOS and Android pages there as well as developer info). On Jul 3, 2012 7:18 PM, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote: Would love you to do it all through Csounds.com Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: > This is something to think about too, and should be part of the > discussion. Right now this is targetted as a replacement for the > current csound.sf.net, which has out of date download links and other > things. I can imagine this being a more developer focused site and > one which developers could update easily, while the csounds.com site > being the community site it always has been. I know in the past that > the developer related stuff could sometimes put off some non-technical > users, so I can see value in having a separate site. > > On the other hand, if we want to do a redirect, it is very simple (I > use one for blue's sf.net site). > I can also see value in doing everything at csounds.com. > > I don't really have a preference, except that the current > csound.sf.net should be updated to newer content. Whether that's to > wordpress on csound.sf.net, or a redirect to csounds.com, doesn't much > matter to me. > > steven > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Felipe Sateler <fsateler@gmail.com> wrote: >> I've been thinking about this, and I'm not sure what is the value >> offered by having a separate site at csound.sf.net. A good part of the >> content is duplicated between csounds.com and csound.sf.net. >> >> There are good reasons for a dev site for csound, but it could be >> hosted in csounds.com/develop or something like that. Then, >> csound.sf.net could just be a redirect. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Victor Lazzarini >> <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote: >>> Did you see this? >>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ >>> >>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: >>> >>> Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd >>> have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like >>> csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of >>> making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress >>> version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining >>> the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. >>> The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a >>> WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if >>> we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) >>> >>> Thanks >>> steven >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but >>> >>> whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does >>> >>> self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Andrés >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com >>> >>> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to >>> >>> manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under control >>> >>> and this was not much work. >>> >>> >>> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> >>> From: "Steven Yi" <stevenyi@gmail.com> >>> >>> To: "Developer discussions" <csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >>> >>> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress >>> >>> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Andres, >>> >>> >>> Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you >>> >>> can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. >>> >>> Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions >>> >>> come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just >>> >>> csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared >>> >>> to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until >>> >>> proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for >>> >>> many years without much issues). >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> steven >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >>> >>> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >>> >>> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >>> >>> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >>> >>> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >>> >>> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Andrés >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >>> >>> <michael.gogins@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >>> >>> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >>> >>> have used them all! >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> >>> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >>> >>> >>> http://csound.sf.net/blog >>> >>> >>> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >>> >>> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >>> >>> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >>> >>> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >>> >>> csound.sf.net than the current page. >>> >>> >>> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >>> >>> >>> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >>> >>> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >>> >>> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >>> >>> bump you up to "editor" role. >>> >>> >>> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >>> >>> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >>> >>> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >>> >>> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> steven >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> >>> Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> >>> malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Gogins >>> >>> Irreducible Productions >>> >>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> Senior Lecturer >>> Dept. of Music >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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Date	2012-07-06 09:47
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress
	Since I haven't heard anything back, I've gone ahead and made the change. Going to csound.sf.net or csound.sourceforge.net now redirects to csounds.com. For Devs: I also cleared out the projectweb/htdocs folder to have just the index.php that redirects to csounds.com. I did make a backup before clearing, and it is in projectweb/htdocs.bak. One other note, for Csounds.com, I think we need to add an image link to SourceForge so that we are compliant with some requirements of theirs. Thanks all for the feedback! steven On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote: > Awesome! > > Sent from my iPhone. > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Steven Yi wrote: > > Thats good with me and solves the outdated csound.sf.net content issue. > Unless I hear anything from anyone else I will modify the csound.sf.net page > to redirect to csounds.com. (Next step then is to get iOS and Android pages > there as well as developer info). > > On Jul 3, 2012 7:18 PM, "Dr. Richard Boulanger" > wrote: >> >> Would love you to do it all through Csounds.com >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >> On Jul 3, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Steven Yi wrote: >> >> > This is something to think about too, and should be part of the >> > discussion. Right now this is targetted as a replacement for the >> > current csound.sf.net, which has out of date download links and other >> > things. I can imagine this being a more developer focused site and >> > one which developers could update easily, while the csounds.com site >> > being the community site it always has been. I know in the past that >> > the developer related stuff could sometimes put off some non-technical >> > users, so I can see value in having a separate site. >> > >> > On the other hand, if we want to do a redirect, it is very simple (I >> > use one for blue's sf.net site). >> > I can also see value in doing everything at csounds.com. >> > >> > I don't really have a preference, except that the current >> > csound.sf.net should be updated to newer content. Whether that's to >> > wordpress on csound.sf.net, or a redirect to csounds.com, doesn't much >> > matter to me. >> > >> > steven >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Felipe Sateler >> > wrote: >> >> I've been thinking about this, and I'm not sure what is the value >> >> offered by having a separate site at csound.sf.net. A good part of the >> >> content is duplicated between csounds.com and csound.sf.net. >> >> >> >> There are good reasons for a dev site for csound, but it could be >> >> hosted in csounds.com/develop or something like that. Then, >> >> csound.sf.net could just be a redirect. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Victor Lazzarini >> >> wrote: >> >>> Did you see this? >> >>> http://sourceforge.net/blog/hosted-apps-retirement/ >> >>> >> >>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 22:18, Steven Yi wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Wordpress hosting would be simpler, but less customizable. Also, we'd >> >>> have to have a redirect from csound.sf.net to to something like >> >>> csound.wordpress.com. I could probably maintain the site in terms of >> >>> making sure things are up to date for plugin versions and wordpress >> >>> version. I'd rather like to get someone else involved in maintaining >> >>> the content to update linkes for new releases and things like that. >> >>> The wordpress admin site makes that quite easy to edit pages, using a >> >>> WYSISWYG editor. (We'll have this problem of updating the content if >> >>> we were on wordpress hosting or on sf.net) >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> steven >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Andres Cabrera >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I think that it's not so much how difficult it is to maintain, but >> >>> >> >>> whether someone has the time to do it... What advantages does >> >>> >> >>> self-hosting have over using wordpress hosting? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> Andrés >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:07 AM, michael.gogins@gmail.com >> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I have had spamming on my personal site with wordpress, and I had to >> >>> >> >>> manually delete some trojan files once. But things seem to be under >> >>> control >> >>> >> >>> and this was not much work. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >> >>> >> >>> From: "Steven Yi" >> >>> >> >>> To: "Developer discussions" >> >>> >> >>> Subject: [Cs-dev] Csound.sf.net - Wordpress >> >>> >> >>> Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hi Andres, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Wordpress is pretty easy to maintain; when new versions come out, you >> >>> >> >>> can use the dashboard and just press "upgrade" and it does it for you. >> >>> >> >>> Security wise, shouldn't be too many issues I think as new versions >> >>> >> >>> come out regularly for any critical bugs. Note: this is just >> >>> >> >>> csound.sf.net, which I don't think is that well ranked a site compared >> >>> >> >>> to csounds.com. My thought is that we'll have good security until >> >>> >> >>> proven otherwise. (Note: I've had wordpress on my personal site for >> >>> >> >>> many years without much issues). >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thanks! >> >>> >> >>> steven >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Andres Cabrera >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I think the main issue with any of these systems is being able to >> >>> >> >>> ensure there is a maintainer who can apply patches and maintain >> >>> >> >>> security. That's a lot of work, especially for a moderately well >> >>> >> >>> ranked site like the csound site. Would it be worth considering >> >>> >> >>> hosting in within the Wordpress site itself? It seems to me that would >> >>> >> >>> be safer, or maybe it wouldn't really? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> Andrés >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Gogins >> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Looks good to me. I use WordPress on my own Web site and find it the >> >>> >> >>> best of several such thingies I've used over the years... not that I >> >>> >> >>> have used them all! >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Mike >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Steven Yi >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi All, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I've setup Wordpress on sourceforge at: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://csound.sf.net/blog >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I did some initial copying of material from the existing page over to >> >>> >> >>> the new site. There's still stuff to transfer over and new things to >> >>> >> >>> add, such as information for developers (including iOS and Android) >> >>> >> >>> amongst other things. I think this will make a better home site for >> >>> >> >>> csound.sf.net than the current page. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thoughts on the site? Worth pursuing? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> BTW: I have set the site to allow new user registration. The default >> >>> >> >>> role for new sign-ups is set to "subscriber". If you would like to >> >>> >> >>> help in modifying the pages, email me with your username and I will >> >>> >> >>> bump you up to "editor" role. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Also to note, SourceForge looks like it is phasing out hosted apps, >> >>> >> >>> meaning MediaWiki will be removed. I am waiting for migration >> >>> >> >>> instructions to be posted and can take care of migrating the wiki into >> >>> >> >>> a self-installed MediaWiki instance. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thanks! >> >>> >> >>> steven >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> >> >>> Discussions >> >>> >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> >> >>> malware >> >>> >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> >> >>> Michael Gogins >> >>> >> >>> Irreducible Productions >> >>> >> >>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >> >>> >> >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> Discussions >> >>> >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> malware >> >>> >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> Discussions >> >>> >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> malware >> >>> >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> Discussions >> >>> >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> malware >> >>> >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> Discussions >> >>> >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> malware >> >>> >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> Discussions >> >>> >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> malware >> >>> >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> Discussions >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> malware >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> >>> Senior Lecturer >> >>> Dept. of Music >> >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >>> Discussions >> >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >>> malware >> >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Csound-devel mailing list >> >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Saludos, >> >> Felipe Sateler >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> >> Discussions >> >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> >> malware >> >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Csound-devel mailing list >> >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Live Security Virtual Conference >> > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> > Discussions >> > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> > malware >> > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Csound-devel mailing list >> > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net