What's true of the compiler also is true of the libraries. Free.

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Michael Gogins
gogins at pipeline period com
Irreducible Productions
CsoundVST, an extended version of Csound for programming music and sound
Available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steven" 
To: "Csound Developers Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: [CSOUND-DEV:3518] Re: widgets.cpp


> Sure, I'd rather do without support for 2.96 too, but it seems there's
> enough users of 2.96 to warrant it's support.
>
> The thing about 2.96 vs. 3.xx is that I think there's complications that
> makes it more than just switching the compiler, as there's the host of
> libraries, like glibc, which many programs on that computer might depend
> on and need to be switched as well.  (That's at least how I understand
it).
>
> steven
>
>
> Michael Gogins wrote:
>
> >Frankly, I do not think people should be trying to compile Csound for
> >gcc2.96, or maintaining it for gcc2.96 either. The bloody thing is free,
for
> >heaven's sake. Just my two pins.
> >
> >============================================
> >Michael Gogins
> >gogins at pipeline period com
> >Irreducible Productions
> >CsoundVST, an extended version of Csound for programming music and sound
> >Available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/
> >============================================
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "steven" 
> >To: "Csound Developers Discussion List" 
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:13 PM
> >Subject: [CSOUND-DEV:3513] Re: widgets.cpp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Bobby,
> >>
> >>I'm not sure if this is the optimal solution as I think the whole
> >>fstream vs fstream.h has to do with if using gcc3 vs gcc2.96, so those
> >>now with 2.96 will be out of luck versus those with 3.xx.  (That's what
> >>I'm remembering from a while ago at least...).
> >>
> >>steven
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Robert McNulty Junior wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I modified this file to work with cygwin.
> >>>
> >>>#include  added
> >>>fstream.h and strstream.h were changed to fstream and strstream.
> >>>If this has and adverse effect, I'll change it back.
> >>>I'm using gcc-3.3.1-3 as my compiler.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

On 11/25/03 11:07 PM, Michael Gogins etched in stone:

> What's true of the compiler also is true of the libraries. Free.

This is perhaps the crux of the issue with OS X is that the entire system is
NOT free.  One cannot simply replace Apple's proprietary libraries from one
version with the libraries from a new version when you update gcc.

I imagine this is one of the "evils" that makes using the GPL preferable to
the BSD license that Apple's Unix is based on.

Anthony Kozar
anthony.kozar@utoledo.edu