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[Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows

Date2015-07-27 13:12
FromSigurd Saue
Subject[Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
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I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are detected as Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built (F-Secure virus detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll, fractalnoise.dll and widgets.dll.

 

Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?

 

Sigurd


Date2015-07-27 13:48
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
I have to imagine they're all false positives. Maybe there's a way to
add an exception in your program?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Sigurd Saue  wrote:
> I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are detected as
> Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built (F-Secure virus
> detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll, fractalnoise.dll and
> widgets.dll.
>
>
>
> Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?
>
>
>
> Sigurd
>
>
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>
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Date2015-07-27 13:57
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
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Could it be a sign that there are contaminated csound distributions out there?

Andrés

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
I have to imagine they're all false positives. Maybe there's a way to
add an exception in your program?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Sigurd Saue <sigurd.saue@ntnu.no> wrote:
> I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are detected as
> Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built (F-Secure virus
> detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll, fractalnoise.dll and
> widgets.dll.
>
>
>
> Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?
>
>
>
> Sigurd
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Csound-devel mailing list
> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>

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Date2015-07-27 14:38
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
Never had a problem like this when building. But I only use the
inbuilt Windows anti-virus software.

On 27 July 2015 at 14:57, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Could it be a sign that there are contaminated csound distributions out
> there?
>
> Andrés
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> I have to imagine they're all false positives. Maybe there's a way to
>> add an exception in your program?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Sigurd Saue  wrote:
>> > I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are detected as
>> > Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built (F-Secure virus
>> > detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll, fractalnoise.dll and
>> > widgets.dll.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sigurd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Csound-devel mailing list
>> > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>> >
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>
>
>
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Date2015-07-27 14:58
FromSigurd Saue
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
I will look into ways of adding exceptions to F-Secure.

I built Csound entirely from scratch. It looks like some of these dll's (e.g. Doppler.dll) only depends on a source file from the distribution, so how can that be contaminated? Unless there is some common package that these four depend on that I should take a closer look at.

Sigurd 

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Fra: Rory Walsh [mailto:rorywalsh@ear.ie] 
Sendt: 27. juli 2015 15:39
Til: Developer discussions 
Emne: Re: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows

Never had a problem like this when building. But I only use the inbuilt Windows anti-virus software.

On 27 July 2015 at 14:57, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Could it be a sign that there are contaminated csound distributions 
> out there?
>
> Andrés
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> I have to imagine they're all false positives. Maybe there's a way to 
>> add an exception in your program?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Sigurd Saue  wrote:
>> > I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are 
>> > detected as Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built 
>> > (F-Secure virus detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll, 
>> > fractalnoise.dll and widgets.dll.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sigurd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > -----------
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Csound-devel mailing list
>> > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>> >
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------- _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>
>
>
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Date2015-07-27 15:15
FromRory Walsh
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
I've had issues like this in the past. I think the virus software
spots some kind of binary pattern that it flags as suspect. Oeyvind
and I had awful problems with pthread dlls in the past. Windows and
certain software were flagging them as suspect, but we never figured
out why.

On 27 July 2015 at 14:58, Sigurd Saue  wrote:
> I will look into ways of adding exceptions to F-Secure.
>
> I built Csound entirely from scratch. It looks like some of these dll's (e.g. Doppler.dll) only depends on a source file from the distribution, so how can that be contaminated? Unless there is some common package that these four depend on that I should take a closer look at.
>
> Sigurd
>
> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: Rory Walsh [mailto:rorywalsh@ear.ie]
> Sendt: 27. juli 2015 15:39
> Til: Developer discussions 
> Emne: Re: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
>
> Never had a problem like this when building. But I only use the inbuilt Windows anti-virus software.
>
> On 27 July 2015 at 14:57, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
>> Could it be a sign that there are contaminated csound distributions
>> out there?
>>
>> Andrés
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have to imagine they're all false positives. Maybe there's a way to
>>> add an exception in your program?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Sigurd Saue  wrote:
>>> > I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are
>>> > detected as Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built
>>> > (F-Secure virus detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll,
>>> > fractalnoise.dll and widgets.dll.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sigurd
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > -----------
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Csound-devel mailing list
>>> > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --------- _______________________________________________
>>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------
>>
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>>
>
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Date2015-07-27 18:18
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
AttachmentsNone  None  
All of the DLLs will be linked with the C runtime library and, if written in C++, with the C++ runtime library. The widgets DLL also links with the FLTK DLL.

Regards,
Mike


-----------------------------------------------------
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Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sigurd Saue <sigurd.saue@ntnu.no> wrote:
I will look into ways of adding exceptions to F-Secure.

I built Csound entirely from scratch. It looks like some of these dll's (e.g. Doppler.dll) only depends on a source file from the distribution, so how can that be contaminated? Unless there is some common package that these four depend on that I should take a closer look at.

Sigurd

-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Rory Walsh [mailto:rorywalsh@ear.ie]
Sendt: 27. juli 2015 15:39
Til: Developer discussions <csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Emne: Re: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows

Never had a problem like this when building. But I only use the inbuilt Windows anti-virus software.

On 27 July 2015 at 14:57, Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could it be a sign that there are contaminated csound distributions
> out there?
>
> Andrés
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have to imagine they're all false positives. Maybe there's a way to
>> add an exception in your program?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Sigurd Saue <sigurd.saue@ntnu.no> wrote:
>> > I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are
>> > detected as Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built
>> > (F-Secure virus detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll,
>> > fractalnoise.dll and widgets.dll.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sigurd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > -----------
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Csound-devel mailing list
>> > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>> >
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------- _______________________________________________
>> Csound-devel mailing list
>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>
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Date2015-07-28 13:30
FromSigurd Saue
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows
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Thanks Mike. It implies that there is nothing special about the four dll’s I’m struggling with compared to the others. It must be a “false positive” as suggested by Steven. I’ll look for a workaround.

 

Sigurd

 


Fra: Michael Gogins <michael.gogins@gmail.com>
Sendt: 27. juli 2015 19:18
Til: Developer discussions
Emne: Re: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows

 

All of the DLLs will be linked with the C runtime library and, if written in C++, with the C++ runtime library. The widgets DLL also links with the FLTK DLL.

 

Regards,

Mike


 

-----------------------------------------------------

Michael Gogins
Irreducible Productions
http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com

 

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sigurd Saue <sigurd.saue@ntnu.no> wrote:

I will look into ways of adding exceptions to F-Secure.

I built Csound entirely from scratch. It looks like some of these dll's (e.g. Doppler.dll) only depends on a source file from the distribution, so how can that be contaminated? Unless there is some common package that these four depend on that I should take a closer look at.

Sigurd

-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Rory Walsh [mailto:
rorywalsh@ear.ie]
Sendt: 27. juli 2015 15:39
Til: Developer discussions <
csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Emne: Re: [Cs-dev] Virus detection when building Csound on Windows

Never had a problem like this when building. But I only use the inbuilt Windows anti-virus software.

On 27 July 2015 at 14:57, Andres Cabrera <
mantaraya36@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could it be a sign that there are contaminated csound distributions
> out there?
>
> Andrés
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Steven Yi <
stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have to imagine they're all false positives. Maybe there's a way to
>> add an exception in your program?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Sigurd Saue <
sigurd.saue@ntnu.no> wrote:
>> > I’m trying to build Csound on Windows, but a few targets are
>> > detected as Trojans and immediately removed as soon as their built
>> > (F-Secure virus detection). The targets are chua.dll, doppler.dll,
>> > fractalnoise.dll and widgets.dll.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Has anyone experienced the same or knows why this happens?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sigurd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > -----------
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Csound-devel mailing list
>> >
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
>> >
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------- _______________________________________________

>> Csound-devel mailing list
>>
Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>
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>
>
>
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