In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of changes
since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.  

Timetable:
        Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
        Building packages Monday/Tuesday
        Release Wednesday am UT

I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is nearly
upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.

Does anyone have changes they really need to do?

It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new academic
year in many places.
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I'm not sure how current I am, but there were two issues with the most
recent Windows installer.  libiconv is missing and the SADIR
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> In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of changes
> since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.
>
> Timetable:
>         Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
>         Building packages Monday/Tuesday
>         Release Wednesday am UT
>
> I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is nearly
> upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.
>
> Does anyone have changes they really need to do?
>
> It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new academic
> year in many places.
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> I'm not sure how current I am, but there were two issues with the most
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>

Sounds like a packaging issue rather than the system.
Thanks for the report

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FWIW, debian is already frozen, so we will ship 5.17 in the next
stable release. I will not upload to debian any new versions until the
release, due to the way the debian release process works.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:30 AM, john ffitch  wrote:
>
> In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of changes
> since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.
>
> Timetable:
>         Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
>         Building packages Monday/Tuesday
>         Release Wednesday am UT
>
> I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is nearly
> upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.
>
> Does anyone have changes they really need to do?
>
> It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new academic
> year in many places.
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i have one request and i am wondering if it is easy to implement and 
could perhaps be there in 5.18:

when writing UDOs i am missing default values for k-variables. you know, 
this can be given for i-variables with j/o/p, setting to -1, 0 or 1 if 
missing. but it is not possible for k-variables.
as i have learned from john's table in the audio programming book (p. 
585), there are O, P and V as optional k-variables, defaulting to 0, 1, 
and 0.5.

is it possible to include these in an UDO definition? like this:

opcode Bla, 0, OPV
k1, k2, k3 xin
printks "k1 = %f, k2 = %f, k3 = %f\n"
endop

	joachim

ps: -1 instead of 0.5 would even be better ...

Am 23.08.2012 10:30, schrieb john ffitch:
> In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of changes
> since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.
>
> Timetable:
>          Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
>          Building packages Monday/Tuesday
>          Release Wednesday am UT
>
> I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is nearly
> upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.
>
> Does anyone have changes they really need to do?
>
> It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new academic
> year in many places.
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easy? difficult? impossible?
thanks -
	j

Am 24.08.2012 10:26, schrieb joachim heintz:
> i have one request and i am wondering if it is easy to implement and
> could perhaps be there in 5.18:
>
> when writing UDOs i am missing default values for k-variables. you know,
> this can be given for i-variables with j/o/p, setting to -1, 0 or 1 if
> missing. but it is not possible for k-variables.
> as i have learned from john's table in the audio programming book (p.
> 585), there are O, P and V as optional k-variables, defaulting to 0, 1,
> and 0.5.
>
> is it possible to include these in an UDO definition? like this:
>
> opcode Bla, 0, OPV
> k1, k2, k3 xin
> printks "k1 = %f, k2 = %f, k3 = %f\n"
> endop
>
> 	joachim
>
> ps: -1 instead of 0.5 would even be better ...
>
> Am 23.08.2012 10:30, schrieb john ffitch:
>> In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of changes
>> since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.
>>
>> Timetable:
>>           Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
>>           Building packages Monday/Tuesday
>>           Release Wednesday am UT
>>
>> I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is nearly
>> upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.
>>
>> Does anyone have changes they really need to do?
>>
>> It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new academic
>> year in many places.
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I will take a look this weekend.
On 25 Aug 2012, at 08:02, joachim heintz wrote:

> easy? difficult? impossible?
> thanks -
> 	j
> 
> Am 24.08.2012 10:26, schrieb joachim heintz:
>> i have one request and i am wondering if it is easy to implement and
>> could perhaps be there in 5.18:
>> 
>> when writing UDOs i am missing default values for k-variables. you know,
>> this can be given for i-variables with j/o/p, setting to -1, 0 or 1 if
>> missing. but it is not possible for k-variables.
>> as i have learned from john's table in the audio programming book (p.
>> 585), there are O, P and V as optional k-variables, defaulting to 0, 1,
>> and 0.5.
>> 
>> is it possible to include these in an UDO definition? like this:
>> 
>> opcode Bla, 0, OPV
>> k1, k2, k3 xin
>> printks "k1 = %f, k2 = %f, k3 = %f\n"
>> endop
>> 
>> 	joachim
>> 
>> ps: -1 instead of 0.5 would even be better ...
>> 
>> Am 23.08.2012 10:30, schrieb john ffitch:
>>> In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of changes
>>> since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.
>>> 
>>> Timetable:
>>>          Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
>>>          Building packages Monday/Tuesday
>>>          Release Wednesday am UT
>>> 
>>> I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is nearly
>>> upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have changes they really need to do?
>>> 
>>> It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new academic
>>> year in many places.
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super, thanks.

Am 25.08.2012 10:23, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
> I will take a look this weekend.
> On 25 Aug 2012, at 08:02, joachim heintz wrote:
>
>> easy? difficult? impossible?
>> thanks -
>> 	j
>>
>> Am 24.08.2012 10:26, schrieb joachim heintz:
>>> i have one request and i am wondering if it is easy to implement and
>>> could perhaps be there in 5.18:
>>>
>>> when writing UDOs i am missing default values for k-variables. you know,
>>> this can be given for i-variables with j/o/p, setting to -1, 0 or 1 if
>>> missing. but it is not possible for k-variables.
>>> as i have learned from john's table in the audio programming book (p.
>>> 585), there are O, P and V as optional k-variables, defaulting to 0, 1,
>>> and 0.5.
>>>
>>> is it possible to include these in an UDO definition? like this:
>>>
>>> opcode Bla, 0, OPV
>>> k1, k2, k3 xin
>>> printks "k1 = %f, k2 = %f, k3 = %f\n"
>>> endop
>>>
>>> 	joachim
>>>
>>> ps: -1 instead of 0.5 would even be better ...
>>>
>>> Am 23.08.2012 10:30, schrieb john ffitch:
>>>> In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of changes
>>>> since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.
>>>>
>>>> Timetable:
>>>>           Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
>>>>           Building packages Monday/Tuesday
>>>>           Release Wednesday am UT
>>>>
>>>> I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is nearly
>>>> upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have changes they really need to do?
>>>>
>>>> It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new academic
>>>> year in many places.
>>>> ==John ffitch
>>>>
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Victor: Two queries:

1:  Does this need a manual adjustment?

2:  Is it migrated to csound6?

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I am not sure what you mean manual adjustment? I was going to migrate it to Csound 6, but I have not done it yet. Changes are in symtab.c only.


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> Victor: Two queries:
> 
> 1:  Does this need a manual adjustment?
> 
> 2:  Is it migrated to csound6?
> 
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changes now migrated to csound6.
On 26 Aug 2012, at 10:22, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> I am not sure what you mean manual adjustment? I was going to migrate it to Csound 6, but I have not done it yet. Changes are in symtab.c only.
> 
> 
> On 26 Aug 2012, at 10:02, John ffitch wrote:
> 
>> Victor: Two queries:
>> 
>> 1:  Does this need a manual adjustment?
>> 
>> 2:  Is it migrated to csound6?
>> 
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> I am not sure what you mean manual adjustment? I was going to migrate it
> to Csound 6, but I have not done it yet. Changes are in symtab.c only.
>


I thought that if it affects UDO there should be something in the manual.
Not an area I know about.

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oh, yes, I'll take care of that.
On 26 Aug 2012, at 13:00, jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk wrote:

>> I am not sure what you mean manual adjustment? I was going to migrate it
>> to Csound 6, but I have not done it yet. Changes are in symtab.c only.
>> 
> 
> 
> I thought that if it affects UDO there should be something in the manual.
> Not an area I know about.
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Since i have to work elsewhere in the country for the weeks to come, i will
not be able to make the manual ready for the next release. 
I hope someone else can find the time?

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what is required?
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> Since i have to work elsewhere in the country for the weeks to come, i will
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> I hope someone else can find the time?
> 
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I always build the manual as part of the Windows installer, so when I
am finished with that you, you can get the manual from the installer.

Regards,
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> Since i have to work elsewhere in the country for the weeks to come, i will
> not be able to make the manual ready for the next release.
> I hope someone else can find the time?
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many thanks, victor. i have applied this to the k-rate version of my 
table print udo's:
http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=170
http://www.csounds.com/udo/displayOpcode.php?opcode_id=171

much nicer to use now!

best -

	joachim



Am 26.08.2012 00:48, schrieb Victor Lazzarini:
> O,P and V in types for UDOs now added to the new parser, tested and
> working.
> There seems to be a problem with old parser detecting O and V types
> correctly, I will try to fix it, but since old parser is deprecated, it
> is low priority at the moment.
>
> Victor
>
> On 25 Aug 2012, at 21:44, peiman khosravi wrote:
>
>> + 1
>>
>> On 24 August 2012 09:26, joachim heintz > > wrote:
>>
>>     i have one request and i am wondering if it is easy to implement and
>>     could perhaps be there in 5.18:
>>
>>     when writing UDOs i am missing default values for k-variables. you
>>     know,
>>     this can be given for i-variables with j/o/p, setting to -1, 0 or 1 if
>>     missing. but it is not possible for k-variables.
>>     as i have learned from john's table in the audio programming book (p.
>>     585), there are O, P and V as optional k-variables, defaulting to
>>     0, 1,
>>     and 0.5.
>>
>>     is it possible to include these in an UDO definition? like this:
>>
>>     opcode Bla, 0, OPV
>>     k1, k2, k3 xin
>>     printks "k1 = %f, k2 = %f, k3 = %f\n"
>>     endop
>>
>>             joachim
>>
>>     ps: -1 instead of 0.5 would even be better ...
>>
>>     Am 23.08.2012 10:30, schrieb john ffitch:
>>     > In the light of the delays in csound6 and the large number of
>>     changes
>>     > since 5.17 I would like to make a new release next week.
>>     >
>>     > Timetable:
>>     >          Code freeze  Sunday midnight (PDT)
>>     >          Building packages Monday/Tuesday
>>     >          Release Wednesday am UT
>>     >
>>     > I will be preparing release notes today I hope.  The manual is
>>     nearly
>>     > upto date -- just a couple of example files missing.
>>     >
>>     > Does anyone have changes they really need to do?
>>     >
>>     > It would be good to get this out before Labor Day and the new
>>     academic
>>     > year in many places.
>>     > ==John ffitch
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