Did you have to write all these manifests? What's involved?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Gogins" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report


>I don't know if we need one for every .exe and .dll -- but with the new 
>MSVC build, we are getting one for every .exe and .dll.
>
> The manifest is needed because to quote Microsoft:
>
> Side-by-side assemblies are Win32 assemblies described by manifests and 
> authored so that multiple versions may run at the same time without 
> conflicting with each other. When developers author manifests and write 
> applications to use side-by-side assembly sharing, multiple assembly 
> versions can run on the system and each application can specify which 
> assembly version it should use.
>
> Translation: 'assemblies' are 'binaries,' 'side-by-side assemblies' means 
> directories with GUIDs in directory names so that different directories 
> can each contain their own version of the same library.
>
> In other words, an embedded manifest does pretty much the same thing as an 
> soname on a Posix system. The difference is that because the actual 
> filenames for the different side by side assemblies are identical, each 
> has to be in its own uniquely named directory. The manifest tells the OS 
> which version comes from what directory.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: victor 
>>Sent: Feb 16, 2008 2:04 PM
>>To: Michael Gogins , Developer discussions 
>>
>>Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report
>>
>>yes, that is strange, because both _csnd and _CsoundAC are also
>>dynamic loaded by the executable (rather than linked).
>>
>>I am confused as to why the manifest is needed. Could you explain
>>it a little more. Would we need one for  every DLL built with
>>MSVC?
>>
>>Victor
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>To: "Developer discussions" 
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:44 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report
>>
>>
>>> Because they are dynamically loaded, and the runtime libraries would
>>> already have been loaded by the host. Just guessing.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: victor 
>>>>Sent: Feb 16, 2008 8:09 AM
>>>>To: Developer discussions 
>>>>Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report
>>>>
>>>>And another question, do the opcodes require the same
>>>>type of thing? If not why, as they are DLL modules as well.
>>>>
>>>>Victor
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "victor" 
>>>>To: "Developer discussions" 
>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:06 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I see, and gcc does that extra bit of linking itself, does it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>>>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with Python modules failing to import was that the older
>>>>>> SConstruct did not embed the manifest into the binaries. For that you
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> run mt, the manifest tool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The updated SConstruct does embed the manifests, and csnd and 
>>>>>> CsoundAC
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> now import. The following lines do the trick (all build environments
>>>>>> inherit
>>>>>> from commonEnvironment):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> commonEnvironment['LINKCOM'] = [commonEnvironment['LINKCOM'],
>>>>>> 'mt.exe -nologo -manifest
>>>>>> ${TARGET}.manifest -outputresource:$TARGET;1']
>>>>>> commonEnvironment['SHLINKCOM'] = [commonEnvironment['SHLINKCOM'],
>>>>>> 'mt.exe -nologo -manifest
>>>>>> ${TARGET}.manifest -outputresource:$TARGET;2']
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "victor" 
>>>>>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:23 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are/were the problems with the Python module (cnsd and/or
>>>>>>> CsoundAC)?
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Michael Gogins" 
>>>>>>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:03 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Cs-dev] MSVC build for 5.08 installer progress report
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Basically, everything is going fairly fast now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything builds except the OSC opcodes and the Pure Data 
>>>>>>>> external.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> confident that I will also be able to build both of these.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Csound runs, makes sound, and is debuggable -- it is true it is 
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> easily debuggable than the MinGW build. csound5gui runs and makes
>>>>>>>> sound.
>>>>>>>> winsound runs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Python interface runs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I now need to test the other stuff to see if it still works, and 
>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>> debugging a Python module, and fix up the installer Python issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There also will be a manifest/runtime library DLL issue, but I 
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> fix it this time by including the runtime DLLs in properly named
>>>>>>>> directories
>>>>>>>> in the installation tree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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