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Re: [Cs-dev] To Linux or Not to Linux

Date2005-11-19 20:51
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] To Linux or Not to Linux
In my opinion, the Linux installation system should work with yum or apt-get. 

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Art Hunkins 
Sent: Nov 19, 2005 3:44 PM
To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] To Linux or Not to Linux

I am a Windows person, and no doubt will remain one. However, I'd like to
take up Ian's real-time Csound Linux challenge (thanks, Ian), and install a
separate Linux boot on my new laptop.

I will not do this, though, unless there is a fairly foolproof Linux
installer for Csound5. I have watched the endless and heroic attempts to
build Csound on Linux here on this list, and will *not* subject my body and
remaining life to this stress. (My cardiologist would not like it either.)
I'm serious about this. I cannot afford to try to "roll my own" Linux, as
users perhaps *should* do, according to Istvan. (But I wonder how many
*would* do it?)

If Linux is to *thrive* as a Csound OS, appropriate installers must be
available for at least selected versions of Linux.

So a decision needs to be made as to which versions of Linux to support.
With this as background, which will be the first Linux installer versions? I
need a recommendation as to which Linux to obtain - *one based on a
soon-upcoming available installer*.

Or else I need to forget about it. Please let me know.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----
From: "Istvan Varga" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Multi port midi proposal


> Steven Yi wrote:
>
> > In terms of time table, installers seem like the most pressing thing
> > on everyone's minds, as the rest of the above seem in very good shape
> > (bravo all of you! ^_^).  Just to get some kind of timeline out for
> > consideration, would a rough schedule of getting installers done in a
> > week,
>
> Actually, the installers are a major problem, and it is not likely
> that this issue is going to be solved in a week or even in any
> predictable amount of time. It would be possible to have installers
> for Windows and OS X in 1-2 weeks if anyone would actually work on
> it - but that is not the case (the situation is particularly bad
> with respect to the Mac platforms). Linux is a different issue: we
> already have scripts for generating packages, but due to the lack of
> binary compatibility and different directory structure, a separate
> package should be generated for every commonly used distribution
> and release, and there is just no one who would actually do that
> tedious task. Thus, the standard means of installing on Linux still
> remains compiling from sources.
>
>
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Date2005-11-19 21:04
FromIain Duncan
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] To Linux or Not to Linux
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art Hunkins 
> Sent: Nov 19, 2005 3:44 PM
> To: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] To Linux or Not to Linux
> 
> I am a Windows person, and no doubt will remain one. However, I'd like to
> take up Ian's real-time Csound Linux challenge (thanks, Ian), and install a
> separate Linux boot on my new laptop.
> 
> I will not do this, though, unless there is a fairly foolproof Linux
> installer for Csound5. I have watched the endless and heroic attempts to
> build Csound on Linux here on this list, and will *not* subject my body and
> remaining life to this stress. (My cardiologist would not like it either.)
> I'm serious about this. I cannot afford to try to "roll my own" Linux, as
> users perhaps *should* do, according to Istvan. (But I wonder how many
> *would* do it?)
> 
> If Linux is to *thrive* as a Csound OS, appropriate installers must be
> available for at least selected versions of Linux.
> 
> So a decision needs to be made as to which versions of Linux to support.
> With this as background, which will be the first Linux installer versions? I
> need a recommendation as to which Linux to obtain - *one based on a
> soon-upcoming available installer*.
> 
> Or else I need to forget about it. Please let me know.

If you aren't in a rush and really just want to try it out for test 
drive, you may want to wait a bit and use dyne:bolic 2 or pure:dyne when 
they are out. They are excellent linux live CDs, and csound5 will be 
included on there ready to go along with a prepatched audio kernel. I 
have been extremely impressed with them as multimedia demo cds for linux 
and will be using a tweaked dyne:bolic for all my shows. You can quite 
literally customize your dyne:bolic with your software, audio data, and 
csound ensembles, and burn a complete uncorruptible high performance 
audio OS on one CD that will run on any stock PC right out of the box 
and detects and supports all major pro audio cards. Dynebolic also 
include PD and scads of other audio software, and can be customized in 
less than an hour. I predict we will see Pure:Dyne making a lot of waves 
in the live computer music scene next year.

Otherwise, I'm sure there will be apt-get and rpm releases, but maybe 
not quite yet ...

Iain



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