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Re: [Cs-dev] Csound plugins was Re: UB binary of csound framework

Date2009-11-20 16:42
From"Art Hunkins"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Csound plugins was Re: UB binary of csound framework
That's correct.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rory Walsh" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Csound plugins was Re: UB binary of csound framework


As far as I'm aware it looks in the bin directory. Art made a set of
self contained zip distributions of some of his real time pieces and
as far as I know users could just download and run them from the
folder they extracted all the file into.

Rory.



2009/11/20 Andres Cabrera :
> I'm wondering.... Since Csound looks for OPCODEDIR before parsing the
> command line (using -+env:OPCODEDIR to set it won't work), where would
> the opcodes be looked for by default on the different platforms? In
> the same path as the Csound executable?
>
> I'm asking this because it would be great to have a self contained
> Csound that can be run without installing (without the need for
> administrative access).
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Victor Lazzarini
>  wrote:
>> Not sure of anything simple right now. You can try setting different
>> OPCODEDIRs. But still there will be a need to supply UB dependencies.
>>
>> Victor
>> On 19 Nov 2009, at 21:17, matt ingalls wrote:
>>
>>> yuck. there's not a way this can be handled in the framework
>>> structure, with separate folders for each architecture or something?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>
>>>> You'll probably need to solve the problem of plugins, they will all
>>>> have to be UB and
>>>> their dependencies too. For instance, liblo will need to be made UB
>>>> for libosc to be made
>>>> UB so that Csound can have OSC opcodes.
>>>>
>>>> Victor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Nov 2009, at 20:40, matt ingalls wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> thanks Victor.
>>>>>
>>>>> i agree that it maybe not worth it :)
>>>>> ( i was actually about ready to retire MacCsound entirely- except
>>>>> QuteSound still does not seem as good in real-time and GUI
>>>>> response --
>>>>> even compared to MacCsound running in Rosetta)
>>>>>
>>>>> i am willing to look into UB compile.
>>>>> my apologies for being out of touch, but is there some kind of
>>>>> document listing what 3rd-party libraries are being used, what
>>>>> libraries are absolutely required, etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> i also ask about this because i would be interested in getting
>>>>> csound
>>>>> running on an iPhone -- has anyone tried this yet? as far as i
>>>>> understand iPhone apps can't use dynamic frameworks/libraries and i
>>>>> was wondering if it would be possible to get all the 3rd party
>>>>> libraries statically linked. (i assume this will violate some of the
>>>>> GPL licenses?)
>>>>>
>>>>> -m
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> While it might be possible to build a UB framework, there will be a
>>>>>> lot of complication because of the dependencies that would have to
>>>>>> themselves be UB. I thought about it, but I thought it was always
>>>>>> simpler to build separate binaries. The main thing about the
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> state of things is that I spent a good time testing, fixing and
>>>>>> perfecting things, with the help of the community. My fear is
>>>>>> that an
>>>>>> attempt at a UB would break things and take too long to get right.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> if anyone fancy a challenge, please be my guest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think at this point, it might not be worth our while for too
>>>>>> long.
>>>>>> Apple is phasing out support for PPC, so I guess it would not be an
>>>>>> issue in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 Nov 2009, at 20:08, matt ingalls wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is there *any* possibility of compiling csound framework as a
>>>>>>> Universal Binary?
>>>>>>> so that say, for instance, one could have QuteSound and MacCsound
>>>>>>> running on the same intel mac :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (btw, on 2 separate occassions i tried unsuccessfully to get a
>>>>>>> localized version of csound framework that would be inside the
>>>>>>> MacCsound bundle, using the install_name_tool and o_name tools --
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> the nest of connections among the libraries were too complicated
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> something - i never got it to work)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> matt ingalls
>>>>>>> matt@sonomatics.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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